South of Midnight - Reviews Thread

I never called him racist.

do you think someone assuming a game is woke because there is a black lead makes them a racist? because you're the one bringing up racism, not me.
Actually yes if someone is specifically calling a game woke simply because of the race of the character than that person is indeed racist. Since that's different than not liking the game because of the character's personality etc. Which is why I don't think that person is racist because I don't think he dislikes the game simply because of the race of the protagonist. But you on the other hand have accused him of not liking the game because the lead is black

"black lead, but he won't admit that"

You have already assumed he doesn't like the game because of the main character being black which is whack because that means you're just accusing him of being racist when you don't know for sure. There's no other way to spin it with what you said. If you weren't assuming than you would have said something like "maybe the reason is because she's black?" or something instead of assuming it like your post.

So yeah you have at the moment falsely accused Zacfoder of not liking the game because of the character's skin color.

Yeah....not my thing either. They do have a distinct style and I can appreciate the artistry, but I'm not sure it is the right style for video games. I could get past it if their games had great gameplay, but they just don't.
I personally don't think the style is the problem, there's plenty of weird games with some really wacky or strange art style. The game's failure is probably linked to multiple reasons from the game not being good to a lot of "gritters" dogging on it for being woke or something. Not sure if it's woke or not since I haven't looked much into it but with how big social media and youtube are. A bunch of popular channels egging it would spread the information to a sizable playerbase that does effect the game to some extent especially if the game doesn't really have anything amazing to balance itself out on the sales
 
Actually yes if someone is specifically calling a game woke simply because of the race of the character than that person is indeed racist. Since that's different than not liking the game because of the character's personality etc.
this is a dumb take. I think it's just a poor assumption for them to make. if anything it's a lazy take. doesn't make someone a racist.

I never accused him of not liking the game because of a black lead. read what I quoted. I said he was assuming it was woke based on the black lead.

do you think he relied on something else from the trailer? if so, what?

edit: just to remind you, I was responding to this:
Do me a favor and explain exactly how it "looks" woke.

you then started rambling about racism
 
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this is a dumb take. I think it's just a poor assumption for them to make. if anything it's a lazy take. doesn't make someone a racist.

I never accused him of not liking the game because of a black lead. read what I quoted. I said he was assuming it was woke based on the black lead.

do you think he relied on something else from the trailer? if so, what?

edit: just to remind you, I was responding to this:
You assumed he said the game was woke because of a black lead which really isn't different than you assuming he didn't like the game because of a black lead lol.

I'm well aware that you replied to that comment but that doesn't change the fact that you said "Black Lead, but he won't admit that" so here you assumed he's racist. It doesn't matter whether it's because he doesn't like the game or he thinks it's woke or whatever. The fact remains you assumed it's because the lead is black. Clearly you are trying to label him as racist, no other way around it. You dig yourself in a hole here and I got you by the ballz so just admit you fucked up by accusing another person Zacfoder of being racist when he's most likely not. I will be waiting for his response to this horrible accusation from you.
 
Not a huge fan of the combat, that said though, the story and lore are great. Reminds me of Shadowman, I loved those games. I definitely enjoy my time playing but if they had made combat a bit better, I'd be loving it even more.
 
I've beaten the game, there's nothing DEI about it. You'd really have to make a huge stretch to make any DEI claim.



 
I posted this in the other thread as well but I figured I'd post here too.

I actually paid for the $9 early access as I was bored on Saturday and figured fuck it (my GP was free from a purchase) and the game is okay. I think the art is outstanding overall but the game is just boring. The gameplay is pretty generic vanilla platforming and light/heavy/dodge combat, and the story was so far not really interesting to me which sucks because folklore wise there is definitely some cool stuff from the South (I'm a certified hater of all things Deep South generally and just find it dreadfully ugly) even if it's not my thing.

That being said I only played through Chapter 3 (11 total I believe) so maybe it gets better. I'm not mad about the $9 but I'll probably uninstall it the next time I turn my Xbox on.
 
Saying a game is boring is the most generic way anyone can describe their time with a game. Anyone can say that about any game, and they often do. It's like saying the sky is blue.

I played the first chapter last night and thought the game's atmosphere was very refreshing, and running around in the middle of a hurricane was pretty cool. I'm not overly fond of the game's characters, but the lore of the area is quite fascinating.

Also, I don't, and never have, felt like every game I play has to be a "banger" AAA cinematic experience that could win goty or earn high praise from the masses. Even the price reflects the idea that it's just a small game for you to try. I think most of the idiocy around the game stems from fanboys who, for some reason, feel the need to trash it simply because it's not on their system of choice right now.
 




Like I said, stretch.

Grifter gummzz 😆 Think for yourself.
 
Looks like it will cross 2,000 today.
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Just tried the game (on Game Pass of course) intro was pretty damn cool but damn the camera controls on default are sluggish, had to whack them up in the options.
 
Again, I've beaten the game. Feel free to tell me exactly what it in is, like, totes woke. Nothing you linked has anything to do with the game being woke.
Sweet baby's involvement means at least some design choices were not for bettering the game itself but for their DEI agenda. This is guaranteed because they are credited, so they are involved.

If you didn't noticed.mind them, that's another story. But there's still DEI in this game. That's not a "stretch" as you called it.
 
I've beaten the game, there's nothing DEI about it. You'd really have to make a huge stretch to make any DEI claim.
I think the biggest argument would stem from the fact that despite Hazel being mixed, she's still very black. It seems like just a phantom plot point to be able to make her Grandma white, who SURPRISE SURPRISE, is actually the main villain.

Even when they paint Roux as the main baddie, it turns out he really isn't. He's just a puppet to a higher evil.

Every opportunity to just create a story rooted in the south and featuring black story tellers and family but just haddddddd to make sure they demonstrated that whitey is always the bad guy

Even in the days of "every protagonist is a bland white guy", the villain wasn't black often at all

Oh and of course, the creative director stating that "white gamers were a mistake" probably should be held against them
 
Sweet baby's involvement means at least some design choices were not for bettering the game itself but for their DEI agenda. This is guaranteed because they are credited, so they are involved.

If you didn't noticed.mind them, that's another story. But there's still DEI in this game. That's not a "stretch" as you called it.

So you're talking out of your butt, got it.
 
Sweet baby's involvement means at least some design choices were not for bettering the game itself but for their DEI agenda. This is guaranteed because they are credited, so they are involved.

If you didn't noticed.mind them, that's another story. But there's still DEI in this game. That's not a "stretch" as you called it.
Guaranteed making grandma white was sweet baby's decision. You know…the main bad guy
 
Sweet baby's involvement means at least some design choices were not for bettering the game itself but for their DEI agenda. This is guaranteed because they are credited, so they are involved.

If you didn't noticed.mind them, that's another story. But there's still DEI in this game. That's not a "stretch" as you called it.

Can you please list some DEI elements in the game that players should keep an eye out for?

Something other than the old character design, which would not fit well with the story the game is telling at all.
 
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I think the biggest argument would stem from the fact that despite Hazel being mixed, she's still very black. It seems like just a phantom plot point to be able to make her Grandma white, who SURPRISE SURPRISE, is actually the main villain.

Even when they paint Roux as the main baddie, it turns out he really isn't. He's just a puppet to a higher evil.

Every opportunity to just create a story rooted in the south and featuring black story tellers and family but just haddddddd to make sure they demonstrated that whitey is always the bad guy

Even in the days of "every protagonist is a bland white guy", the villain wasn't black often at all

Oh and of course, the creative director stating that "white gamers were a mistake" probably should be held against them

Read a history book on the history of the south, thanks.

Also there are good white characters in the game. And even the grandmother gets Hazels sympathy and empathy.

You're actually angry they made a white woman a villain (game has black villains too). Can't help you there, friend. Good luck.
 
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Can you please list some DEI elements in the game that players should keep an eye out for?
No, sorry, i don't support DEI games where Sweet Baby is involved, so i don't play them. Especially the ones made by racists who hate me because of my skin color. Which means i can't know the details.
 
Sweet Baby being DEI is a stretch?
there is this weird trend amongst gamers to be like, "I dont play woke games, but <game I liked> isn't woke" in spite of all obvious evidence to the contrary. It's just a weird cope. Just say you like this wokeshit game, it's fine. I played Spiderman 2, I didn't like it, but then you see idiots claiming it's not woke, some on this very forum.
 
No, sorry, i don't support DEI games where Sweet Baby is involved, so i don't play them. Especially the ones made by racists who hate me because of my skin color. Which means i can't know the details.

Ok.

The way you were harping on about it, it almost seemed like you actually knew what you were talking about, guess not.

Carry on.
 
As someone who has played the game, it makes me laugh at some overly sensitive souls here, trying to control their gag reflex because of some supposed DEI monstrosity that isn't even in a game, at all.


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Ok.

The way you were harping on about it, it almost seemed like you actually knew what you were talking about, guess not.

Carry on.
Apologies. I didn't know Sweet Baby's involvement was a lie. I took it as a fact.
 
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Read a history book on the history of the south, thanks.

Also there are good white characters in the game. And even the grandmother gets Hazels sympathy and empathy.

You're actually angry they made a white woman a villain (game has black villains too). Can't help you there, friend. Good luck.
A history book has nothing to do with my statement. If you're implying interracial relationships were a thing, trust me. I understand

I never said there weren't any good white characters. Im pointing out that the "big bad" was of course white

I'm not made at all about them choosing to make a white woman the bad guy. I'm simply stating that it very much keeps with the DEI playbook that has been infiltrating media. There is just no way of objectively denying that.
 
As someone who has played the game, it makes me laugh at some overly sensitive souls here, trying to control their gag reflex because of some supposed DEI monstrosity that isn't even in a game, at all.
It's clear people are very quick to kneejerk to a number of things these days, unfortunately. 🫠
 
This turns into a weird discussion about SBI's involvement but ultimately it doesn't even matter how involved they were.

The game in its current state appeals to almost no one and is a failure.

A peak of 1400 players is an absolute disaster.
 
This turns into a weird discussion about SBI's involvement but ultimately it doesn't even matter how involved they were.

The game in its current state appeals to almost no one and is a failure.

A peak of 1400 players is an absolute disaster.
It always does, but that's the reality, it was always meant to be this considering who developed the game, unfortunately. Compulsion Games gonna Compulsion Game basically, at least that's what it looks like.

Honestly, I don't think anyone was really excited about this or looking forward to it. At least from what I could tell. A lot of folks were just like, "Neat, I'll check it out on Game Pass", I don't think I saw anyone that said they were gonna buy it. I certainly don't know anyone on my end, lol.
 
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I am an Xbox Gamer, but when someone attached to the makers of this game calls me "Trash" and a "Mistake".

Well fuck them and fuck their game.
If they would have fired her then different story.

The SBI shit though, that's just fanboy ammo regards this game.
 
Random reminder that you can join over 474k fellow steam players to get warned if SBI or similar "consultants" tarnished a game.
 
Sweet baby's involvement means at least some design choices were not for bettering the game itself but for their DEI agenda. This is guaranteed because they are credited, so they are involved.

If you didn't noticed.mind them, that's another story. But there's still DEI in this game. That's not a "stretch" as you called it.
Is that stance going to be consistent when Ghost of Yotei comes out? Go look at the lead role's social media posts, if that's what it takes for you to boycott a game, you're going to miss out on a lot of stuff if you have issues with things like that outside of games.
 
Random reminder that you can join over 474k fellow steam players to get warned if SBI or similar "consultants" tarnished a game.
By the looks of the gameplay, mechanics, etc. The game was already "tarnished". Its lack of success has nothing to do with SBI.
 
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