Topher
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The CPU upgrade will be contributing a lot there.
I scored 24 345 in Time Spy
AMD Ryzen 7 9700X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}www.3dmark.com
Ah yeah.....bit of a bottleneck with my 5600x.
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Ah yeah.....bit of a bottleneck with my 5600x.
ValiantInstance
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The updates will improve over time. What I would like is a nice driver update pretty soon, I've had to disable Freesync Premium because it's causing my screen to flicker on and off. Didn't have this issue with my 7900XT and game performance is fine so it's definitely a driver issue.
Edit: Looks like I managed to solve it by turning off VRR/Gsync on my tv and only enabling Freesync. I think it might have been using both at once, if that's even possible?
Edit: Looks like I managed to solve it by turning off VRR/Gsync on my tv and only enabling Freesync. I think it might have been using both at once, if that's even possible?
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MikeM
Member
Well I cancelled my MSRP 5070ti order and just gonna run with the Asus TUF 9070xt OC. Been almost three weeks of waiting for the 5070ti with no clue as to when it will actually ship.
The 9070xt still came out cheaper in Asus TUF form than the PNY MSRP model I had on order. Nvidia needs to get its stock act together- they almost had me.
The 9070xt still came out cheaper in Asus TUF form than the PNY MSRP model I had on order. Nvidia needs to get its stock act together- they almost had me.
Kataploom
Gold Member
How is the 5600X behaving here? Can I get great performance for for some months anyway until I upgrade to a newer AM5 CPU?
Corporal.Hicks
Member
PT is twice as demanding as standard RT, but thanks to DLSS features (DLSS performance + FGx2) I found PT games to be very playable on my 4080S. 80-110fps is good enough for me (especially on gamepad) and even DLSS performance still offers 4K like image quality. At 1440p I use DLSS "quality" instead of "performance" mode and get 110-170fps in PT games. I'm perfectly happy with my performance in PT games.Path tracing only become a transformative experience once you have at least 4090 performance, even then you are playing at ~40-50fps. 1440p internal resolution is the minimum I find the image quality to be ideal, that is with ray reconstruction, without it forget about it.
This is the perf at 4k quality upscaling, AMD is still pretty far behind.
In raster the 9070XR is as fast as my RTX4080S, and sometimes even faster (in AMD sponsored games), but it seems AMD is still one or two generations behind in RT. In PT games my card is up to 233% faster (Indiana Jones), but also games with light RT (like GTA5) runs much better.
At 4K native TAA I get 62-75fps in the grassy areas, and around 75-100fps in the city area. The 9070XT in this video has 33-40fps in grassy areas. With DLSS (transformer "J" preset) on top of that sharpness improves very noticeably compared to TAA native and the game runs around 90fps in the grassy areas and 110-120fps in town. I suspect that grassy areas tank performance on the 9070XT because it doesn't support OMM. Without this feature, RT becomes extremely expensive in grassy areas.
The 9070XT has competitive raster performance, but people who want to play RT games should go for the Nvidia. The 5070ti is only $100-170 more expensive in my country and it will run indinana jones with PT at 200fps at 1440P instead of 30fps on the 9070XT.
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winjer
Gold Member
My Timespy Extreme result with a 9070. No tweaks to clocks, power, etc.
www.3dmark.com
I scored 10 923 in Time Spy Extreme
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, AMD Radeon RX 9070 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
Bojji
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Topher
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I guess it depends on your GPU and how much it is being bottlenecked. I don't know that there is a rule of thumb as to when you are really being hindered by an older CPU. But others here can probably give you a better answer.
SolidQ
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Topher
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My Timespy Extreme result with a 9070. No tweaks to clocks, power, etc.
I scored 10 923 in Time Spy Extreme
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, AMD Radeon RX 9070 x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
lol
I scored 10 483 in Time Spy Extreme
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D, AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
Corporal.Hicks
Member
In really demanding RT games like cyberpunk, or the witcher 3 I get around 30fps at 4K native. Compared to the aforementioned games, GTA5 Enhanced Edition runs much better.GTA is quite heavy with RT:
(Sadly no 9070XT tested here)
I think GameGPU benchmarked the game without the latest updates and game-ready drivers. Framerate in GTA5 fluctuate a lot because grassy areas are way more demanding compared to the city, but I still get 62-75fps in the most demanding grassy areas and 75-100fps in the city. With RT very high instead of ultra I get 30% higher framerate and my 4080S starts to be CPU limited at times.
IMO GTA5 is one of the most optimized RT games I have ever played. Some RT games may run faster in 4K (e.g. RE3 remake 130-200fps), but GTA5 has the full package of RT effects. Before playing GTA5 EE I was expecting to get around 60fps with DLSS, but Rockstar has far exceeded my expectations. I don't even need DLSS to play this game at high refresh rate, although I still use DLSS because TAA native doesn't look nearly as sharp.
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winjer
Gold Member
lol
I scored 10 483 in Time Spy Extreme
AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D, AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
My score is 1000 points lower on the GPU. But 1000 points higher on the CPU side.
Kinda funny how a score can shift like this.
Bojji
Member
With all RT settings on high it runs almost 120fps locked in native 4k on 4070tiS. Ultra settings are completely not worth it (as usual).
Topher
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Really is. I guess the benchmark is taking advantage of those additional cores.