Sp0ng putting it on the line: Says DS=PDA and GBA 2=PSP like machine at E3

Well maybe Nintendo's feeling is they may get beat by the PSP individually, but overall if they have enough hardware models, they'll end up still being the majority leader in the handheld marketplace ...

GBA SP HDD/Flash Model (Play Yan built in)

Nintendo DS (Nintendo DS SP eventually?)

Game Boy Evolution

Although people always want to use the comparision to SEGA, I don't know if this is really all that different from what Apple does with the i-Pod. They simply offer different types of i-Pod for people with different needs/tastes.
 
mpau25 said:
It'd be nice if this rumor was true, but I can't see Nintendo giving up on the DS so soon .
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Giving up on the DS? Did anybody actually read the article I posted above this? There's no *new* GB coming this year. It's just the SP with a few add-ons built in to the hardware. Nothing to get terribly excited or upset about. It's been blown way out of proportions.
 
Kobun Heat said:
the fact that Spong, while claiming to have known for six months about a super-secret E3 project, has no idea what's going to go down in like... ten days.
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So something you can't confirm is happening in ten days?

Can I get a confirmation on that?
 
The thing about GBA which I think Nintendo would be crazy not to captialize on ... give us $10 games please.

I don't think everyone wants to pay $40-$50 for portable games and its crazy that there isn't a handheld solution which offers games for much, much cheaper.

If they could start a game download service for Game Boy (ala i-Que) they could sell games for $5-$10 a pop, especailly older ones or NES Classic software.
 
Kobun Heat said:
Oh, Gamesindustry.biz! Now it's official.
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LOL!
Kobun Heat said:
...or the fact that Spong, while claiming to have known for six months about a super-secret E3 project, has no idea what's going to go down in like... ten days.
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Um, I never claimed SPOnG to be any sort of all seeing eye. If you're refering (as you smugly have for how many posts now?) to the looming GDC hardware showings then, um well done. You're a genius.
Also, an 1N5iD3R. Your life is complete.
If you know something I don't, congratulations. Lots of people do. I don't know what more you want. A cake? Just let me know...
 
Thank you for using the word "mooted" in your Xbox Hardware Unveiling headline. I did not even know that "moot" could be used as a verb. Please continue with further vocabulary-expanding sensational headlines.

Suggestions:

Nintendo defenestrates DS; introduces new Gameboy

Capcom gets atavistic with retrogames collection

Sony impuissance continues with PS3 scheduling
 
border said:
I think you are just Spong-baiting :lol
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!!!!

Nintendo DS Online Network Announcement in 10 Days

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Link to This Article http://news.spong.com/x?art=9398


SPOnG can confirm that Nintendo will be announcing a full-scale online network for their Nintendo DS game system in 10 days. While exact details are scarce, SPOnG has learned that the network, dubbed No-Line, will be similar the type of service Microsoft utilizes for their Xbox Live network. Our source, who wishes to remain anonymous, has confirmed this after drinking heavily and posting vague comments on a VIDEO GAME MESSAGE BOARD ON THE INTERNET.

When the announcement comes, remember where you read it first.
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Kobun Heat said:
I'm not sure what's funnier, "eat my shorts" (curse you, El Barto!) or the fact that Spong, while claiming to have known for six months about a super-secret E3 project, has no idea what's going to go down in like... ten days.
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Justin Bailey said:
Nintendo DS Online Network Announcement in 10 Days

Related Links Companies Nintendo


Link to This Article http://news.spong.com/x?art=9398


SPOnG can confirm that Nintendo will be announcing a full-scale online network for their Nintendo DS game system in 10 days. While exact details are scarce, SPOnG has learned that the network, dubbed No-Line, will be similar the type of service Microsoft utilizes for their Xbox Live network. Our source, who wishes to remain anonymous, has confirmed this after drinking heavily and posting vague comments on a VIDEO GAME MESSAGE BOARD ON THE INTERNET.

When the announcement comes, remember where you read it first.
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Hey guys look. Found a picture of Folder.

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I've hated Spong since its inception (And, yes, I've been around longer than this user name), but there's always the anti-spong thread where a couple people will defend them and ask why everyone is so hostile.

But maybe they're just Spong employees (Does Spong have actual employees? Never visit the site.) that haven't revealed they work for Spong and are stealth about it.

P.S. When did Spong become unbanned around here? Having it in the filter was a good policy.
 
Heh, was that story seriously up on Spong for a bit or are you just joking? I went to the front page and all I saw was a story on how somebody named "Kijoma-san" is going to be signing copies of Metal Gear in London.

By the way, the whole "ten days" thing is something I heard from another source. Unrelated to the thing I didn't hear about the DS.
 
IF, IF a portable GameCube was to be released as Nintendo's next portable, and it was possible for them to do so before the first major holiday season of PSP and Xbox 2... would there be an advantage to waiting until 2006 or 2007, other than appeasing the segment of existing DS userbase which aren't already Nintendolts as Drinky puts it? It would probably be double the price of the DS and the new game prices would remain as they have been, so it would be for a consumer with a very different wallet; equal to or greater than that of a PSP buyer, even.

Actually, if they were going to introduce a portable GameCube, wouldn't it be worse if it were done later? By 2006 or 2007, it would be a less impressive comparison to PSP. Also, there would be a greater number of DS owners to bitch.


To go on a bit of a tangent, am I the only one who finds interesting the PSP's limitations compared to GameCube? 1.5 GB seemed restrictive compared to a full DVD for the other consoles, while PSP will get current-gen-like games in 1.8 GB. The 3 shoulder buttons rather than 4 sometimes meant control problems compared to PS2 versions, while PSP will make do with 2. Some disliked the feel of the C-stick, whereas PSP just ditches the right stick altogether.

border said:
Are you telling me that if Nintendo released a new home console hardware and called it the Nintendo Revolution, you would not assume that it was the GameCube successor? You would legitimately question whether or not a GameCube 2 was still coming?
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Well... if they explicitly said it was the case.

soundwave05 said:
I think the DS line will eventually become a budget line (the GBA SP will be phased out) aimed at getting more of those non-gamers.
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A thought: if the SP is phased out for the DS to become the low price option, perhaps the next revision will have the GBA link port added in?

Guy LeDouche said:
HAHAHAH. I can't believe you guys. If Nintendo makes GBE play GCN software, they might as well throw money into the sun. I posted this in the other thread, but Nintendo/Sony/MS make money from software sales, not hardware. They recoup the losses of hardware development and sales through software. If the games are already out there, have already been purchased and applied to the Gamecube in terms of "recouping losses" then what is the GBE going to do? It's rediculous and would be the worst business decision Nintendo ever made. Sure, just about ever GC owner would almost have to buy a GBE by default, but that means at launch, lots of hardware being sold (at no profit or at a loss, as a portable handheld GC with respectable battery would cost Nintendo alot) and no software. Why? Everybody already has the software.
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So if people who already have had the GameCube for years are buying it... they probably enjoy the system and will continue to buy more games for it, including many new games that wouldn't have existed if it remained only a home console that was made obsolete in 2006.

Gamesindustry.biz said:
Meanwhile, Nintendo has distanced itself from a frenzied wave of Internet speculation claiming that the Japanese giant will be launching a next generation Game Boy later this year, saying that the rumours were "pulled out of the air".
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Someone got close to NCL HQ and eavesdropped through PictoChat!

Kobun Heat said:
By the by, I got this cheerful PM from Spongbob just now
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For a long time it befuddled my stepbrother when I'd say he was watching Spongbob and laugh.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Well... if they explicitly said it was the case.
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You miss the point of the question. Assume that you don't know what Nintendo's stance is, like the vast majority of people buying hardware today. When a first party releases a new piece of handheld/console hardware, they assume that it is meant as a replacement for the previous handheld or console. Completely different, concurrent product lines are not the norm.
 
border said:
You miss the point of the question. Assume that you don't know what Nintendo's stance is, like the vast majority of people buying hardware today. When a first party releases a new piece of handheld/console hardware, they assume that it is meant as a replacement for the previous handheld or console. Completely different, concurrent product lines are not the norm.
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I guess ... but then again Nintendo released Game Boy Color, GBA, and GBA SP not that far apart and consumers ate that up.

Consumers I think by and large don't think of it as a big deal when a new model portable is announced. They expect it.

Just like Apple has the i-Pod, i-Pod Photo, i-Pod mini, U2 i-Pod, and i-Pod Shuffle.

As long as Nintendo continues to support the DS, which is likely because of their large back catalog of N64 engines and the fact that DS development should be relatively cheap, I don't know if people will really neccessarily complain.
 
border said:
Completely different, concurrent product lines are not the norm.
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Not yet, though Nintendo keeps trying. Virtual Boy and Pokemon Mini didn't last but DS seems like a decent success so far.
 
soundwave05 said:
I guess ... but then again Nintendo released Game Boy Color, GBA, and GBA SP not that far apart and consumers ate that up.
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GBA and GBA SP are different form factors for the exact same hardware that runs the exact same game. They are not really competing product lines, IMO. GBC was a pretty mild upgrade that was coming on the heels of 8-years of stagnant hardware.

Comparing it to MP3 players is a little crazy because at the end of the day all MP3 players do the same thing -- play MP3s. DS and GBA are video game players but at the end of the day they are playing entirely different games. Not two games with a different storage medium or file format, but completely different games. It's as if Sony tried to launch DVD and Blu-Ray twelve months apart and made movies exclusive for one format or the other.

Nintendo has gotten people used to short hardware cycles in the handheld world, but when new stuff comes out it always plays titles from the previous generation, and it always quickly becomes the de facto standard. DS/GBA2 would be pretty different in that respect.

Can Nintendo continue supporting the DS? Whether people are really going to keep buying it for low resolution N64 games is perhaps another question. People were nostalgic for 2D Mario/Zelda adventures with the Gameboy, but does that same nostalgia exist yet for most of the N64 library?
 
Ohhh SHNAPZ...

I really haven't been paying too much attention to this Spong thing, but I guess the speculation is about another new GBA redux. And I just suddenly thought...what if this is not meant to be anything big, it's just a sidebet...but what if a mini-GBA is made (with just a screen, chipset, controls and a bit of flash memory for storing data), not to neccessarily replace anything, but to be a personal VMU for the Revolution's controller. Imagine a GBA level VMU for each player that stores personal game saves and can be played by itself as well.

I dunno...may confuse people and I don't think it's likely...but who knows?
 
Actually, now that I think about it, I'd buy a third revision. My SP was left in my backpack and when I remembered about it I took it out and the screen didn't show an image, but the backlighting still went on, and I could hear the sound. I don't feel like sending it in to get fixed.
 
What I think this is going to be is just GBA: Media Center Edition. They'll package Play-Yan in the unit and sell it as a GBA with media capabilities so that they can have a tit for Sony's tat. I don't think they're going to package this as the next GB and I don't think they're even going to try to tell people they gotta have it. It's going to be the answer to PSP's new Media Walkman hype for kids.

Sure, we Gaffers know that PSP is still technically superior, but if some kids want to play MP3s and such as well as games and they already have a GBA library, that $99 is going to look mighty nice compared to $249. Especially to parents.

It would be different if they were going to split the userbase or something but this new GBA Rev is not going to feature anything that affects compatibility. Dev's aren't going to be making SP-2 only games. Everything that's likely to be included in the new rev either won't affect compatibility (better screen) or will be available via add on (wireless play).

This is not going to be a big deal, folks.
 
This makes me mad if its true. I was a big fan of Nintendo. I enjoyed NES, SNES, and the Nintendo 64. The Game Cube did not however and was the only gaming console I sold off. So when I seen the DS have a better than N64 version of Super Mario 64, I got it the first day because I figured it would be sold out otherwise (which it was for the holiday seasons). Mario kicked ass but my DS has been untouched for about two months and now I hear this.

Why is Nintendo willing to drag their consumers through the mud with half supported products? Forget the GBA2 right now. They should be giving at least 24 months of DS time. Let the momentum of good games start up so when GBA2 doesn't come out, the DS is long forgotten. Their software so far has been limp. Maybe they're going to shock us at E3 but Nintendo has been getting worse and worse since 1996-1999 I'd say. Although next month I will be getting Yoshi, trying to get the high score is only going to be fun for so long. I'm hoping the Bomberman DS game will be something great too.

Their lineup sucks now but I do like whats coming up: Advance Wars, Mario Kart, Harvest Moon, Final Fantasy III, Dynasty Warriors (damn you Koei for making it sprite based), but they are all coming out for the fall or worse, later.

I have to say I'm disappointed with the DS purchase and it annoys me that Nintendo isn't as dedicated to the DS as they should be. Even if it is a third pillar, Nintendo should always be there to support their products or why even put them out?
 
The Experiment said:
Even if it is a third pillar, Nintendo should always be there to support their products or why even put them out?
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Who says they wont continue supporting it? I mean, what 3 million people have bought t thus far right?
 
I'd just rather have more support from them (until third parties start producing more games for it). Also, my point was (that I forgot to write in my original post) was that I bought the DS for games, not as a PDA. I already have a PDA. I don't need two of them. So I was a little miffed when it appears that Nintendo wants the DS to be their PDA variant but focus their handheld software efforts on the new GBA.
 
Odnetnin said:
Hey guys look. Found a picture of Folder.

owned.jpg
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So.

Um, Odnetnin...

Um... You found a picture of me being owned. Yet...

Um... The piece you are referring to was a joke made by the GAF user. You sir, have quite simply and undeniably, have owned yourself.

I had an inkling that you were a talentless, nobody fuck all cunt. Seemingly, you have confirmed this with your desperate attempts to discredit SPOnG. It's sad. Really.

Please, given that E3 will sow what's what, defend your stance. Giben that you couldn't even bother to check that text from a quoted link is valid, your jumping up and down baby babble does just fade into nothing...
 
Folder, I can understand your point, but this discussion at this way can only conduct to a ban. Suppose you don´t care about it, but it would be a shame.

If this is right or not we will see in some months, is something easy to check and easy to remember. I believe we can have this as it is at this point without getting into a nasty discussion.
 
Folder said:
I had an inkling that you were a talentless, nobody fuck all cunt. Seemingly, you have confirmed this with your desperate attempts to discredit SPOnG. It's sad. Really.
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Drinkin' always makes Folder so mad =(
 
Folder said:
So.

Um, Odnetnin...

Um... You found a picture of me being owned. Yet...

Um... The piece you are referring to was a joke made by the GAF user. You sir, have quite simply and undeniably, have owned yourself.

I had an inkling that you were a talentless, nobody fuck all cunt. Seemingly, you have confirmed this with your desperate attempts to discredit SPOnG. It's sad. Really.

Please, given that E3 will sow what's what, defend your stance. Giben that you couldn't even bother to check that text from a quoted link is valid, your jumping up and down baby babble does just fade into nothing...
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Folder. I knew it was a fake post. Its just that it so closely mirrors the crap that Spong puts out and the fact that Kobun showed that you knew jack all = you're patheticness.

Haha.
 
I'd like to take this moment to say that even N-Run is more reputable than Spong.

Then again, N-Run hasn't updated in nearly a year...
 
Folder said:
I had an inkling that you were a talentless, nobody fuck all cunt.
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I object to your rather obscene use of the c-word. You know Spong's a running joke on GAF and yet you persist.

Everyone knocks you or Spong. Get used to it.

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border said:
Drinkin' always makes Folder so mad =(
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I wonder if he was drinking when he was a dick to Kobun through PM...or if he's just a dick all the time.

I agree -- there is no point in discussing this further until this rumor is either vindicated or blown up at E3.
 
Folder. I knew it was a fake post. Its just that it so closely mirrors the crap that Spong puts out and the fact that Kobun showed that you knew jack all = you're patheticness.
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Pleaaase...

Whatever you want, at least I tried.
 
I agree -- there is no point in discussing this further until this rumor is either vindicated or blown up at E3.
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Sort of. Even if on the off chance that somebody DID slip Spong good info, and this DOES happen at E3, all that would do is make the score Internet 64510, Spong 1.
 
Kobun Heat said:
Sort of. Even if on the off chance that somebody DID slip Spong good info, and this DOES happen at E3, all that would do is make the score Internet 64510, Spong 1.
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Wait, didn't they once report that a "mysterious figure" was going to "make sequels to popular titles" last year?

That makes it 64510 to 2.
 
Odnetnin said:
Folder. I knew it was a fake post. Its just that it so closely mirrors the crap that Spong puts out and the fact that Kobun showed that you knew jack all = you're patheticness.
Haha.
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Perhaps the most transparent lie I’ve ever seen posted of GAF. You could have at the very least had the dignity to admit you gaffe (GAF)

Off to bed now peeps.

This place really is going down hill and I say that with a genuine concern for what was once the most...

Ah fuck it. I'm sure you know what I mean.

Tara :)
 
JackFrost2012 said:
Well, you know what they say: a stopped clock is still right twice a day.
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Jesus Christ, Vestal, you've given it away!

Well, since he blew it, I'll tell you all. They're upgrading the DS' Clock software. You'll download a patch, and then you'll be able to have two clocks on different screens. PSP BOMBA!
 
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