Special Metal Gear Solid V: TPP stream announced for gamescom, hosted by Keighley

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Infinity Patriot said:
Regardless, it's still tacky.
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"Tacky" that the money we pay for a game (ironically one with a prominent anti-war message no less) won't go to fund gun companies...?

Okay?

GreyOcelot said:
i would think it would be relatively easy to change this. on contact with a guard:

  • guard yells "contact" alerting all guards within shouting distance
  • guard reaches for radio and calls CP
  • during reflex, both of these actions occur. all or nothing. -or- the relfex is divided into two "sections" that can result in both types of alerts
  • with relex off, shooting before "contact" = no alert.
  • with relex off, shooting the radio results in a "contact" alert of nearby enemis, but no radio
  • shooting the soldiers radio directly negates all radio or base-wide alerts
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You're pretty good. I want the Search and Clear tactics back too. That was awesome.
 
Screaming Meat said:
"Regardless" that the money we pay for a game (ironically one with a prominent anti-war message no less) funds gun companies...?

Okay?
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Then why have guns in there in the first place? Fake guns are tacky. Funding gun companies isn't bad unless you're one of those "ban guns" people. I'm not. I like guns. I own 2. Having real world weapons in games is a plus in my eyes. It adds to the realism. Could you imagine Gran Turismo or NFS with fake cars?
 
Infinity Patriot said:
Then why have guns in there in the first place? Fake guns are tacky. Funding gun companies isn't bad unless you're one of those "ban guns" people. I'm not. I like guns. I own 2. Having real world weapons in games is a plus in my eyes. It adds to the realism. Could you imagine Gran Turismo or NFS with fake cars?
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This. There's nothing inherently evil about gun manufacturers.
 
Hopefully some legit questions are asked to kojima, but I want to know if there's a heir apparent waiting on the sidelines, he seemed energized again and eager to make MGS games, kind of like toriyama lately been actively doing DBZ stuff after having no genuine interest.. I felt that mgs4 was a low point in the series that showed his dissatisfaction, but I truly want one final solid game that wraps everything up we need that grey fox vs solid snake fight for them feels.

Can we get a release date soon please kojima-San? Most likely he will tease us with an announcement of a future announcement.
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOaSh1-d9gc

Don't ask me why i post this.
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Infinity Patriot said:
Then why have guns in there in the first place? Fake guns are tacky. Funding gun companies isn't bad unless you're one of those "ban guns" people. I'm not. I like guns. I own 2. Having real world weapons in games is a plus in my eyes. It adds to the realism. Could you imagine Gran Turismo or NFS with fake cars?
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I can't think of a single work with an anti-war message that doesn't have guns in one form or another. You can't really show their devastating effects without them being in it, I suppose. MGS tends to reward you more for not taking a life as opposed to killing, at least since MGS2, so it's ironic that a game that has grown over the years to have such a dim view on violence actually funds companies that create instruments that can be used to perpetrate such violence.

I guess I am one of "those" gun-control proponents, although I'd say I'm more anti-bullets (XD) If I'm honest, I do like guns (and indeed violence) in a fantastical, cathartic and even fetishistic sense, but I'm not too keen on the idea that my fantasies (so to speak) pay towards funding instruments that can be used to commit real-life violence, if that makes sense?

Cars aren't designed to kill, so that's not really a fair comparison... and let's not talk about "realism" in Metal Gear. ;)
 
GreyOcelot said:
definitely him.

on a side-note, if by some miracle team A is right and hayter is in the game...he should just talk like that

that voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MGS4/PW voice
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Well of course. If the voice acting director and Kojima himself want Hayter to sound like that, then he will sound like that. His performance in MGS4 and Peace Walker were because Kriz Zimmerman and Kojima wanted it that way.

I'm 100% sure that if Hayter comes back as a 20's something Solid Snake, he will use a similar voice to that on the video.
 
Beeblebrox said:
I'll take fake guns in my games over real ones any day.
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Yeah, I was digusted when I learned that.

Infinity Patriot said:
Fake guns are tacky. Funding gun companies isn't bad unless you're one of those "ban guns" people.
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Gun manufacturers don't care to whom they well weapons and routinely contribute to ethnic cleansing. It is perfectly reasonable, and natural, for one to want to avoid funding these companies. I don't want any part of it myself.

But go ahead and ignore that if it gets you to sleep at night.
 
Ishida said:
Well of course. If the voice acting director and Kojima himself want Hayter to sound like that, then he will sound like that. His performance in MGS4 and Peace Walker were because Kriz Zimmerman and Kojima wanted it that way.

I'm 100% sure that if Hayter comes back as a 20's something Solid Snake, he will use a similar voice to that on the video.
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i don't disagree with you necessarily, but he wasn't exactly the classic iconic voice in MGS2 and 3 either. there's been a distinct drop of from MGS1.
 
GreyOcelot said:
i don't disagree with you necessarily, but he wasn't exactly the classic iconic voice in MGS2 and 3 either. there's been a distinct drop of from MGS1.
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I'll never understand complaints about Hayter's voice acting. I've always found him exceptional.

Skullface said:
This. There's nothing inherently evil about companies that profit by manufacturing and selling tools with the sole purpose of killing things.
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That reads a little better. ;)
 
GreyOcelot said:
he was okay post-MGS1, but he sounded more like a parody of his MGS1 voice
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I think his voice became very iconic.. but that doesn't mean that it had range or tone to it. When i think of his VO... it kind of just sounds all the same.

http://youtu.be/seuq0haB43g

I like it. But i like the humanity of Keifer so far. Compare the case and performance of most characters in MGS so far... i think Hayter delivery is subpar. As far as personality and really delivering a memorable character. Again.. i am not saying i don't like it. haha
 
Screaming Meat said:
Was there that much of a difference between 1 & 2?
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there absolutely is. i don't know if there's any truth to the idea that he had a cold, or that doing the voice that way was too rough on him, but there is a distinct difference. it's deeper and gruffer in MGS1, and he doesn't draw out the last word of each sentence the way he did all the time after that.

it's not bad in those subsequent games, at least until MGS4/PW, but it just wasn't the same anymore
 
Screaming Meat said:
I'll never understand complaints about Hayter's voice acting. I've always found him exceptional.



That reads a little better. ;)
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I agree. His voice tone changed, no doubt, but this was done on purpose, and according to the instructions of the voice acting director and Kojima himself.

He was AMAZING in MGS4. He sounded just like Solid Snake would sound as an old man. I really don't know what people were expecting.
 
GreyOcelot said:
there absolutely is. i don't know if there's any truth to the idea that he had a cold, or that doing the voice that way was too rough on him, but there is a distinct difference. it's deeper and gruffer in MGS1, and he doesn't draw out the last word of each sentence the way he did all the time after that.

it's not bad in those subsequent games, at least until MGS4/PW, but it just wasn't the same anymore
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I'll keep an ear out next time I pop MGS in :)

Ishida said:
I agree. His voice tone changed, no doubt, but this was done on purpose, and according to the instructions of the voice acting director and Kojima himself.

He was AMAZING in MGS4. He sounded just like Solid Snake would sound as an old man. I really don't know what people were expecting.
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Is this Bizarro World? Y R WE AGREEZING?! ;)
 
That annoying moment when you post but it doesn't go through because the thread is locked. :/

I went Team B, but Team A definitely has a chance. Don't know what Team D is about, is that some hilarious in-joke I missed?
 
Since that thread was locked, I'll say here that I subscribe to Team E: He will make a cameo apperennce as either himself, a random mook, or a DLC uniform.
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
New GAMEPLAY footage confirmed!

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All of the games major, most impressive scenes shown before the game is even out confirmed.

I didnt watch any of the trailers in till i finished Ground Zeroes, but seeing that all of GZ was shown in the trailers before it even came out (literally, they showed Snake arriving, Snake saving Chico, every scene with Skull Face, Snake saving Pax, Pax's guts being opened and a package being pulled out, Mother Base being attacked & destroyed, and the helicopter crash) was hilarious.
 
Screaming Meat said:
I'll never understand complaints about Hayter's voice acting. I've always found him exceptional.



That reads a little better. ;)
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I stand my ground. Guns aren't made fore the sole purpose of killing other people by the way. They're also made for hunting and general sport. That isn't to say no guns are made for the purpose of killing people.

Look, someone's got to make the guns that cops carry, that the military uses, that people use for self defense. The problem has never been guns but the decisions of individuals, especially those in power.

Was Drebin inherently evil? Naw, just a capitalist.
 
Itchy//Tasty said:
That annoying moment when you post but it doesn't go through because the thread is locked. :/

I went Team B, but Team A definitely has a chance. Don't know what Team D is about, is that some hilarious in-joke I missed?
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Team Deranged is about these guys, who for some reason are dead set on Big Boss being actually Gray Fox and try to back up their theory in the most ridiculous ways imaginable.
 
Sad to see the thread go after all that planning and even getting mod approval :( Still, based on some of those responses, I think the thread kind of backfired anyway.
 
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