Special Metal Gear Solid V: TPP stream announced for gamescom, hosted by Keighley

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Vally said:
Team Deranged is about these guys, who for some reason are dead set on Big Boss being actually Gray Fox and try to back up their theory in the most ridiculous ways imaginable.
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While Team D is an in-joke, it should probably have been expanded to include any theories that involve Kiefer's Big Boss being an imposter. Like someone in the thread posted that they believe he's Solidus and Hayter will still voice the real Big Boss lol.
 
If only a mod would come in here and tell us why it got closed, nobody knows why the fuck? Pretty damn sure Love Deterrence did nothing wrong. Hell he even got mod approval.
 
Skullface said:
I stand my ground. Guns aren't made fore the sole purpose of killing other people by the way. They're also made for hunting and general sport. That isn't to say no guns are made for the purpose of killing people.
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I never said they were "for the sole purpose of killing other people", I just said "for killing".

Skullface said:
Look, someone's got to make the guns that cops carry, that the military uses, that people use for self defense.
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What do people need to defend themselves from, other people with guns? Hmmm.

Let's not forget (as Authentic M rightly pointed out earlier), a significant portion of gun manufacturers money comes from supplying countries torn by war. They are not blameless in the slightest, they are despicable opportunists who will do ANYTHING for a quick buck.
 
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Screaming Meat said:
I never said they were "for the sole purpose of killing other people", I just said "for killing".



What do people need to defend themselves from, other people with guns? Hmmm.

Let's not forget (as Authentic M rightly pointed out earlier), a significant portion of gun manufacturers money comes from supplying countries torn by war. They are not blameless in the slightest, they are despicable opportunists who will do ANYTHING for a quick buck.
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I'm all for people defending themselves with a fire arm against a knife wielding lunatic. It kind of gives you the edge.

So what if arms manufacturers are providing munitions to war torn countries? It's not like they are the root cause of a conflict. Most arms are sold via black market to those war torn countries in any case. Even if they weren't, since when is opportunism despicable?
 
Yeah that lock is bullshit, especially since Love Deterrence contacted a mod beforehand. Not to mention whoever locked the thread didn't even leave a reason outside of a snarky drive-by.
 
That's pretty unfair that the Hayter thread got locked. I suppose they can't have another MGS thread on the front page so there's room for all The Last of Us threads.
 
GreyOcelot said:
i would think it would be relatively easy to change this. on contact with a guard:

  • guard yells "contact" alerting all guards within shouting distance
  • guard reaches for radio and calls CP
  • during reflex, both of these actions occur. all or nothing. -or- the relfex is divided into two "sections" that can result in both types of alerts
  • with relex off, shooting before "contact" = no alert.
  • with relex off, shooting the radio results in a "contact" alert of nearby enemis, but no radio
  • shooting the soldiers radio directly negates all radio or base-wide alerts
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My man. I've been an advocate of a "no instant alert MGSV" since day one (the day we knew it would be in)
 
At least two mods simultaneously decided that the thread should be locked on the grounds that it was an empty poll/voting thread that would consist entirely of picking team names before probably devolving into a Metal Gear chat room community thread by the time the weekend was over.

The mod who was contacted for approval shortly afterwards told the rest of the mods that what he actually said to Love Deterrence was that A) he wouldn't allow a poll thread, but B) LD was free to make a thread simply discussing Hayter and TPP. The thread that was actually posted was more or less a poll thread, ie, what was shot down.
 
Skullface said:
I'm all for people defending themselves with a fire arm against a knife wielding lunatic. It kind of gives you the edge.
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I see what you did there. ;)

Are there a lot of "knife-wielding lunatics" wandering around the US, necessitating the 300+ million guns that are in circulation?

Skullface said:
Even if they weren't, since when is opportunism despicable?
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Oh, I dunno... when it contributes to and facilitates genocide, maybe...?
 
EmCeeGramr said:
At least two mods simultaneously decided that the thread should be locked on the grounds that it was an empty poll/voting thread that would consist entirely of picking team names before probably devolving into a Metal Gear chat room community thread by the time the weekend was over.

The mod who was contacted for approval shortly afterwards told the rest of the mods that what he actually said to Love Deterrence was that A) he wouldn't allow a poll thread, but B) LD was free to make a thread simply discussing Hayter and TPP. The thread that was actually posted was more or less a poll thread, ie, what was shot down.
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Thanks for the clarification. I misunderstood the "approval." My takeaway was that the thread would be fine - but didn't warrant a poll feature. The mod who I was in contact with was very helpful. This was a misunderstanding from my end, not his - to make that clear. Sorry for wasting the mods' time.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
At least two mods simultaneously decided that the thread should be locked on the grounds that it was an empty poll/voting thread that would consist entirely of picking team names before probably devolving into a Metal Gear chat room community thread by the time the weekend was over.

The mod who was contacted for approval shortly afterwards told the rest of the mods that what he actually said to Love Deterrence was that A) he wouldn't allow a poll thread, but B) LD was free to make a thread simply discussing Hayter and TPP. The thread that was actually posted was more or less a poll thread, ie, what was shot down.
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Alright, that's fair. Better than the initial non-reason that was posted.
 
Screaming Meat said:
I see what you did there. ;)

Are there a lot of "knife-wielding lunatics" wandering around the US, necessitating the 300+ million guns that are in circulation?



Oh, I dunno... when it contributes to and facilitates genocide, maybe...?
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I may sound really cold here, but genocides will happen whether or not arms manufacturers are providing one of many possible means. I'd also like to point out that you completely disregarded my argument that munitions aren't sold directly to countries where contemporary genocides occur. I still say arms manufacturers are not inherently evil. They aren't governments, organizations, terrorists, rag tags that decide what these weapons are used for. If a mind is set to kill, even if guns didn't exist, that mind will find a means to carry out a murderous act.

Machetes are often used to assist with genocides and general murder in war torn countries. They are effective hunting tools and have many uses outside of killing. They do allow for an easy kill however. Are machete manufacturers evil?

All this to say, I personally don't care if Smith and Wessen makes a few cents per copy of the Phantom Pain. I'll lose absolutely no sleep over it whatsoever.

One more point I'd like to make is that many arms manufacturers have other products other than munitions. Kalashnikov makes cars and motor bikes for instance.
 
GAF mods confirmed for working under the Patriots.

Also, multiplayer on TPP news when? I want to know if we get co-op on missions in main and extra ops like in Peace Walker. Having co-op in a huge open world sneaking together would be absolutely amazing.
 
RangerBAD said:
We might have had a place to keep our votes though! :/
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Too soon...

TopGun said:
Also, multiplayer on TPP news when? I want to know if we get co-op on missions in main and extra ops like in Peace Walker. Having co-op in a huge open world sneaking together would be absolutely amazing.
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Agreed! Hopefully, we hear something soon... It's certainly possible that MGO, base infiltration, and/or CO-OPs (CO-OPs has yet to be confirmed for TPP, to clarify.) show up at gamescom. Seems as good a time as any!
 
Skullface said:
I may sound really cold here, but genocides will happen whether or not arms manufacturers are providing one of many possible means.
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So that somehow makes it acceptable...? "Fuck it they were gonna do it anyway"? I cannot fathom that kind of thinking, man.

Skullface said:
I'd also like to point out that you completely disregarded my argument that munitions aren't sold directly to countries where contemporary genocides occur. I still say arms manufacturers are not inherently evil.
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The deregulation of financial transactions has effectively rendered the financing of war exempt from national or international governance. Arms merchants and, significantly, diaspora supporters of civil conflicts are easily able to move funds instantly and covertly behind the screens of small states specializing in such banking services, thanks to the blessings of deregulated economic globalization. Weapons procurers are similarly enabled to operate with impunity, even when supplying arms illegally to the perpetrators of humanitarian crimes and genocides. Even when legal "controls" are in effect, sales and movement of small weapons to parties in conflict can proceed unabated.
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Skullface said:
Machetes are often used to assist with genocides and general murder in war torn countries. They are effective hunting tools and have many uses outside of killing. They do allow for an easy kill however. Are machete manufacturers evil?
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I can kill someone with a hammer if I wanted to, but it's designed to get a nail in a wall. What do guns do besides kill things?

Skullface said:
One more point I'd like to make is that many arms manufacturers have other products other than munitions. Kalashnikov makes cars and motor bikes for instance.
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I don't drive (;P) but what's the point you're making?
 
Skullface said:
I'm all for people defending themselves with a fire arm against a knife wielding lunatic. It kind of gives you the edge.

So what if arms manufacturers are providing munitions to war torn countries? It's not like they are the root cause of a conflict. Most arms are sold via black market to those war torn countries in any case. Even if they weren't, since when is opportunism despicable?
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When people die because of it. Or, if you want something more specific - when more people die because of it.
Screaming Meat said:
I can kill someone with a hammer if I wanted to, but it's designed to get a nail in a wall. What do guns do besides kill things?
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Well, technically, you could get a nail in a wall with a gun too.
Screaming Meat said:
I don't drive (;P) but what's the point you're making?
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If you buy Kalashnikov's car, you're supporting Kalashnikov's gun manufacture operations? Dunno, I wouldn't buy it (what's it even called? I doubt anyone would want to brand their car with a brand that everyone associates with killing, but then again...


Final edit: I hope they change their instant alert system in TPP. I'd like to play the game with Reflex off, but as people already said, it's not balanced around that. And radioing their comrades is such a better mechanic that I really, really hope they bring it back.
 
Akiller said:
Guys, Team SnAke brothers.
Let's put our names in the Team A image.
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OK let's do it!

Note: I never did something like this before so not sure how many "TEAM A" people want on this pic but i'm afraid it will get too big? lol

Anyway, if someone is more skilled at this stuff and im sure there is please by all means take over.



Team A: Solid Snake is in MGSV and will be voiced by David Hayter

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I'm on a media blackout for TPP since E3 (I didn't even watched the end of the trailer). I may watch something if it is from online mode otherwise I'll pass.

Don't need to see more of it, just give me the release date.
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
OK let's do it!

Note: I never did something like this before so not sure how many "TEAM A" people want on this pic but i'm afraid it will get too big? lol

Anyway, if someone is more skilled at this stuff and im sure there is please by all means take over.



Team A: Solid Snake is in MGSV and will be voiced by David Hayter

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Someone add me here
 
Pharaoh 117 said:
Don't need to see more of it, just give me the release date.
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Is it just me, or is it unusual for Kojima to be speaking about attending motion capture sessions couple of weeks ago if the game is "near completion" (that is - near the alpha/beta/feature complete/whatever stage), which it should be if it was to be released in the spring of 2015?

What I'm trying to say - am I the only one who's afraid the game won't come out any time soon? :|
 
Sn4ke_911 said:
OK let's do it!

Note: I never did something like this before so not sure how many "TEAM A" people want on this pic but i'm afraid it will get too big? lol

Anyway, if someone is more skilled at this stuff and im sure there is please by all means take over.



Team A: Solid Snake is in MGSV and will be voiced by David Hayter

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DUDE! I love it, bro, thanks!!!!! ^_^
 
Screaming Meat said:
Don't stop on my account. I'm writing this shit down! We sell them as Swiss Army Guns. We'll be rich I tells ya! RICH!
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I just had a vision which we could use for our ad campaign - a muscular guy with construction helmet and a gun with its grip designed like classical Swiss Army knives! Now, we can just hope Kojima-san will notice us and licence it for his next MGS :D
 
I wish I had some streaming equipment i might play some HD collection this hype made me feel like playing. It would be cool to see another gaffer streaming and all of us going insane on twitch lol
 
New interview with David Hayter

Nerd Reactor: You’ve recently tweeted about Metal Gear – your involvement or non-involvement, and there are fans that still believe that you’re in it, because they think Hideo Kojima is trolling them. Or maybe you signed an NDA?

David Hayter: No, no. I never signed any NDA. When you’re not in a game, it’s very difficult for them to get you to sign anything pertaining to it. It’s disappointing that fans still believe I’m gonna be in it, because I think that reduces the pressure that should be put on Konami and Kojima to bring me back. So I’ll say it again, I’m not in the game. In any way.


Nerd Reactor: There’s a petition out where fans want you back in the game.

David Hayter: I think there’s a couple of petitions. They put together thousands of thousands of names. I haven’t checked it recently, but yeah, it’s out there somewhere. [The petition already has over 20,000 signatures and can be found here.]


Nerd Reactor: What do you think about Kiefer Sutherland’s performance?

David Hayter: I saw the promos, and I saw Kiefer in there. Otherwise I think he’s a great actor, and I’ve met him, and spent a little time with him. He’s a super nice guy and I respect him immensely. It just feels different from what we were doing before. But I’ve got nothing bad to say about the man. He’s a stellar Canadian. I respect him immensely.
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http://nerdreactor.com/2014/08/01/i...le-wolves-black-widow-and-metal-gear-solid-v/
 
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