FalsettoVibe
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Nice, but I kinda wish there was the option for no raytracing with all modes.
Spider-Man 2 will have Ray tracing in 30fps, 40fps, and 60fps
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FIREKNIGHT2029
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Insomniac truly are the GOATs 
M1chl
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Persecution complex is so weird to me, you can't have honest conversation about games and how devs utilize new algos for raytracing.
Alright for those who might be interested in some details, this is new hot shit in the industry and that's why we are going to see more RT titles even from lesser teams.
Acoustics | Free Full-Text | An Iterative Ray Tracing Algorithm to Increase Simulation Speed While Maintaining Overall Precision (mdpi.com)
This is the shit currently basically all core devs in team where I am talking about this shit.
We are in for a treat, happy to see Insomniac always on that edge of technology.
Also I didn't like Spiderman 2 showing one bit, but I can appreciate what goes into it.
Alright for those who might be interested in some details, this is new hot shit in the industry and that's why we are going to see more RT titles even from lesser teams.
Acoustics | Free Full-Text | An Iterative Ray Tracing Algorithm to Increase Simulation Speed While Maintaining Overall Precision (mdpi.com)
This is the shit currently basically all core devs in team where I am talking about this shit.
We are in for a treat, happy to see Insomniac always on that edge of technology.
Also I didn't like Spiderman 2 showing one bit, but I can appreciate what goes into it.
ChiefDada
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When it comes to Insomniac games, yes. They reduce other vfx outside of resolution when scaling between visual modes. Also their motion blur effect, which is the best in the business, looks better at lower framerate.
As always, it depends on the game/developer. Good news is Insomniac has a choice for all persuasions.
Physiognomonics
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Insomniac have the best reconstruction tech on consoles. They also reconstruct RT reflections using CBR. They are leading the whole industry with console level RT right now.
Crispy Gamer
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vrr confirmed! I'm glad there's only RT options it'll bold well for their future projects
Crispy Gamer
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Double post
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solidus12
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I remember when Insomniac posted the first in game picture of Miles Morales with ray-traced reflections, and Alex Bugaga implied that the reflections weren't ray-traced.
Hardware - AMD Oberon PlayStation 5 SoC Die Delidded and Pictured
Do these benchmarks use the same clocks? The PS5's CPU tops at 3.5GHz whereas the 4750G goes all the way up to 4.4GHz. The Zen3 APUs also double the L3 cache, have better branching prediction, larger L1 + op caches with higher bandwidth and a bunch of other upgrades. The higher performance...www.neogaf.com
And Alex kept the FUD going even after the Cerny video. Wasn't until they launched, when they STFU.
JimboJones
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He basically said to keep expectations in check, which on consoles... you need too cause console raytracing is fairly limited.Hardware - AMD Oberon PlayStation 5 SoC Die Delidded and Pictured
Do these benchmarks use the same clocks? The PS5's CPU tops at 3.5GHz whereas the 4750G goes all the way up to 4.4GHz. The Zen3 APUs also double the L3 cache, have better branching prediction, larger L1 + op caches with higher bandwidth and a bunch of other upgrades. The higher performance...
And Alex kept the FUD going even after the Cerny video. Wasn't until they launched, when they STFU.
Killjoy-NL
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Oh dear, I'm starting to get caught up in the hype.
Didn't expect Insomniac to carry PS5 this gen.
Didn't expect Insomniac to carry PS5 this gen.
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Horseganador
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Insomniac is at another level, loads on the fly, 60 frames and RT (in an open world full of windows where you move at all costs...), great graphics and top playable sequences, and people doubting them...
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Immortals of Aveum only has one mode with RT. I think Remnant 2 is the same. There might be a few more I can't recall right now.
Gambit2483
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Said it before and I'll say it again, Insomniac was the best purchase Sony has made in years...practically a steal.Oh dear, I'm starting to get caught up in the hype.
Didn't expect Insomniac to carry PS5 this gen.
azertydu91
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The Df react of the Cerny Ps5 presentation at gdc I don't have the timecode but it is in that video, will edit my post when I found it.
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DeepEnigma
posted the linkthere's that too
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DeaDPo0L84
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This is awesome, it'll be interesting to see who far they're able to push RT in the various modes. Cause simply saying "it has ray tracing" could mean many things.
HeWhoWalks
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They really aren't, though. They've simply been the one with the most in-house releases. Can't dismiss Horizon, God of War, etc... because Insomniac is on their A game. Simply put, games are carrying the PS5, like all other PlayStations before it.Oh dear, I'm starting to get caught up in the hype.
Didn't expect Insomniac to carry PS5 this gen.
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PixelatedBeast
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Marvel saw the concepts and animation for Spiderman 2 by Insomiac and just tossed them the Wolverine license, no questions asked....
cinnamonandgravy
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screw console games with 10 graphics modes.
have the BALLS to have just one graphics mode and get it right the first time.
have the BALLS to have just one graphics mode and get it right the first time.
StreetsofBeige
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Good to have options.
In console gaming you'll always have the high fidelity 30 fps crew and the lower visuals 60 fps gang. Let gamers pick what they want.
In console gaming you'll always have the high fidelity 30 fps crew and the lower visuals 60 fps gang. Let gamers pick what they want.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You're trying too hard. Just chalk it up as, Creative Choice™
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Why wouldn't you want choice if the developers can optimise their engine to allow it?
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JimboJones
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Lokaum D+
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Well, if it runs above 900p at locked 60fps it alreay a win in my book
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Tal Shiar Agent
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Respawn, take notes.
Rocco Schiavone
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No It isn't. 60fps is the way to go on OLED.40 fps is the best of both world
Giallo Corsa
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But it doesn't have RDNA 2
Sony & Insomniac, eating (shitty)
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Luipadre
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Im even fine with 30 so its definitely 40 for me. Looks smooth, responsive and looks just like quality mode
Killjoy-NL
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Sure, that's true.
But Insomniac so far has been the pack-leader. They are the only ones, or rather first, of Sony's major studios to release proper current-gen titles, pushing the PS5 hardware.
Seeing what they're bringing to the table, I'm excited to see what GG, SSM and ND will do with their first proper current-gen releases.
Brigandier
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That aged well
This clown is the very definition of a man child, He is insufferable.
Portugeezer
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Insomniac are doing great work considering the amount of games they are producing. PS5 crossgen launch game, a next gen only Ratchet and now next gen only SM2. All released within 3 years. 
As much as I love the top tier visuals Guerilla and Naughty Dog produce, I'd take quicker development times even if it meant slightly worse graphics.
As much as I love the top tier visuals Guerilla and Naughty Dog produce, I'd take quicker development times even if it meant slightly worse graphics.
killatopak
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I'm gonna wait until release. I'm highly suspicious.
Iced Arcade
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Tbh, they did ship 4 games so far on PS5 HW: Miles Morales, Spider-Man Remastered, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart and now Spider-Man 2.
It's kinda "unfair" when they have such institutional knowledge across all of their teams. That said, they're 100% the most agile dev in the biz today and Sony are very lucky that Ted Price decided to sell to them after years and years of being courted by not only Sony, but by other 3rd parties as well.
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Heisenberg007
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Kerotan
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Does Spiderman 2 have VRR?
"Spider-Man 2 will apparently receive the following three modes: 4K + 30 fps + ray tracing, dynamic 4K + 40 fps/120Hz with VRR + ray tracing and dynamic 4K + 60 fps + ray tracing."
Could be a hard choice with dynamic 4k 40fps/120hz with VRR Vs 4k 60fps.
"Spider-Man 2 will apparently receive the following three modes: 4K + 30 fps + ray tracing, dynamic 4K + 40 fps/120Hz with VRR + ray tracing and dynamic 4K + 60 fps + ray tracing."
Could be a hard choice with dynamic 4k 40fps/120hz with VRR Vs 4k 60fps.
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Katatonic
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And he knows his audience.That aged well
This clown is the very definition of a man child, He is insufferable.
JimboJones
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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It's worth the upgrade if you can. I finally did it earlier this year when I bought an oled tv, and can say hands down that 40 fps feels so much better than 30 fps. Having basically the same image quality as the 30fps mode but at 40fps is a huge W.
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Kenneth Haight
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HeWhoWalks
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Pack leader? Perhaps.
But PS5 hasn't really been carried by anything other than a conglomerate of high-quality stuff (which is typical)
