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[Vylash]

Everytime someone express they are skipping the game after playing the demo I get worried. Don't want Splatoon to be a ghost town 1 month after release :'( Smash and MK8 will always have people online since they are very popular and stablished franchises but Splatoon is a brand new IP...

no need to worry, these people are obviously in the minority, general impressions are overwhelmingly positive

 

[Busaiku]

I had no idea we could walk backwards.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Everytime someone express they are skipping the game after playing the demo I get worried. Don't want Splatoon to be a ghost town 1 month after release :'( Smash and MK8 will always have people online since they are very popular and stablished franchises but Splatoon is a brand new IP...

Don't get me wrong, I am busy and can only play 1 game per month. P&D wins. June's budget went to Y-L Kickstarter. I will pick it up in July. Hopefully the community it does not die in a month. That would suck!

 

[Refreshment.01]

I think the lack voice chat just boils down to Nintendo wanting to avoid toxic behavior.

The functionality of it in the game can be debated all day, but the truth is that at the end of the day its not essential to gameplay, so cutting it out is safer than keeping it, as simple as that.

And alienating a part of the fanbase may seem preferable than alienating potentially everyone with toxic behavior if they allow voice chat.

Sorry, but as long as the option to turn it off is there, whatever "toxic" beaviour it might bring it can easily be fixed. We have games with communities in the millions of users, both the users and publishers have thrived with this games, in none of them voice chat was the bringer of doomsday upon those games.

Just look at how the perceptions of people not wanting voice chat are so incoherent. Form mattering to not mattering for gameplay, up to the point from hypothetcial game communtiy collapsing scenarios. Like the option hasn't been available for decades.

The option Nintendo took is not the "safest" it was just the easy way out. That's reality.

 

[AdanVC]

A MK8 Wii U + Splatoon + Smash bundle would be great for the holidays. I'd definitely try to jump in on a deal like that.

At least you didn't say "for $200 or less"

 

[Cheesemeister]

 

[StayDead]

I'll only have one chance to play this before release, but I played it during the 12PM (UK time) slot and I had a complete and utter blast. This game was made for me, it's got very simple controls, but there's also a hell of a lot of depth to what you an do with each weapon and how you can traverse the levels.

I can see me putting a lot of time into my release copy. No doubt about it.

 

[Tuck]

Really? Gyro feels so good. I own at using gyros but it is good there is an option for the less skilled

I found them to be useable, but so jerky that I was getting nauseous. Glad its optional.

 

[phanphare]

I found them to be useable, but so jerky that I was getting nauseous. Glad its optional.

you can adjust the sensitivity before you join a match

 

[TheMoon]

Farthest I got was Level 4. I'm gonna spend a lot of time on those arcade machines in the plaza.

 

[scamander]

Killed a sniper

With a roller

Who was up on the high ground

Bet he never saw me coming

If his name was Honki than that was me, lol

 

[Nanashrew]

I found them to be useable, but so jerky that I was getting nauseous. Glad its optional.

Default camera sensitivity can be twitchy. I adjusted mine to -1.5 and it's much more manageable for me, giving be more steady aim.

 

[Robert at Zeboyd Games]

Ah, so now there are tactical and gameplay reasons to voice chat? What about the countless posts saying that voice chat is not that essential for this game? Anyway, the point is countered by the fact that online games with voice chat allow to manually mute the people you don't like. Or have the option to just voice chat with team mates or just people on friends lists, etc.

Related to the above and talking about potential "disadvanatages", Nintendo is supporting the option play with no motion assist, yet this could also have gameplay impact. But the option to turn it off is there.

Your second point, far more complex online games, with more people playing at any given time and more critical of twitch response do support voice chat.

It boils down to:

1) Part of user base don't like voice chat. i say Bravo for diversity.
2) Other significant part wants voice chat. i say Bravo too.

You don't get voice chat, you alienate part of that user base. You put voice chat no one loses functionality since the part that don't like it turn it off.

Awaiting your response.

I'm personally glad there's no voice chat option in-game (if you really need it, you can always use skype or another outside program). Do more people want voice chat than want no voice chat? Maybe but that doesn't affect my own personal preferences.

And yes, I'm biased. I quit LoL because of this issue. Super toxic community but if you wanted to be competitive, you had to communicate with your team.

 

[Refreshment.01]

you can adjust the sensitivity before you join a match

BUt can you turn on using the Y axis with motion? We are talking about the in the option you get when pressing start right?

i want to use the thumbstick for broth movements and motion for small adjustments, the thumbstick just work for X movements.

 

[TheMoon]

BUt can you turn on using the Y axis with motion? We are talking about the in the option you get when pressing start right?

i want to use the thumbstick for broth movements and motion for small adjustments, the thumbstick just work for X movements.

That's not an option (in the demo).

 

[Datschge]

I found them to be useable, but so jerky that I was getting nauseous. Glad its optional.

One needs steady hands for it to be useful at higher sensitivities. Not that different from wiimote pointer games actually, I guess people used to that will be right at home with gyro.

 

[BitStyle]

The game was fairly easy until stage 6 showed me the door

 

[phanphare]

BUt can you turn on using the Y axis with motion? We are talking about the in the option you get when pressing start right?

i want to use the thumbstick for broth movements and motion for small adjustments, the thumbstick just work for X movements.

yeah that's not an option and it needs to be. a full on hybrid set up is the way to go and I'm really puzzled why they chose this instead.

 

[Nanashrew]

I never made it far in this because my matches came too quickly :C

 

[It's Reyn Time!]

Got to try this out earlier but it's looking doubtful I'm going to be able to play the last hour as it coincides with my boy's usual bedtime routine.

In the off chance that I get to play a bit though, how are the non-motion controls? I usually love motion controls but tilt combined with the right analog for turning just doesn't seem to be working for me. It's the whole patting your head while rubbing your stomach thing for me, I just can't get it down. Any opinions from people who have no strong allegiance to either scheme?

Despite that I absolutely adored what I played. I thought the game looked kind of cool at E3 last year but was surprised at just how positively people reacted to it. Now I fully understand.

Edit: I'll just shut up and read above

 

[Neoxon]

Posted?

Hope it makes Nintendo realize they need to work on genres people like. That way I may have a chance to see sports games back in their catalog.

Just a friendly reminder.

I am expecting slightly better sales than wonderful 101. So no, not a major new IP.

It'll bomb.

It doesn't have Mario in it so I don't expect it to do very well.

It's on Wii U.

So no.

I honestly expect it to flop...

I hope that in wrong though

You mean the next major Nintendo bomba?

Of course not. I'll be amazed if it reaches 1 million.

I mean, did you expect Codename S.T.E.A.M. to be the next big Nintendo IP? The Wonderful 101?

I'm expecting Wonderful 101 levels of bomb.

I expect it to sell around the same as the wonderful 101. At very, very best pikmin 3. And that's me being optimistic. So no I don't think it will.

I'll be legit surprised if this game doesn't bomb. I guess we'd have to discuss what constitutes a bomb though considering the low user base. I should be clear though that the base isn't the reason I think it will bomb. I just don't think the game has a lot of appeal.

But yeah what is considered a bomb in sales for the wii u in terms of numbers.

we? What is neogaf, legion?

personally, no, I don't think so, but i wouldn't be shocked

I doubt it.

I'd be nice if it sold well because I allways like new Nintendo Ip's doing well.
But I don't see it appealing to that many people with it being a shooter focusing on online play on the WiiU. Even the Mario Kart online community got smaller after a few months (before the DLC), and that's was Mario Kart. Also, even kids that play online like basic online features like chat.

I have a WiiU and like it quite a bit, but I have no interest in Splatoon

I doubt it will do well.

This is a game for:

- shooter fans
- that dont need blood
- that dont mind "kiddy" looks
- that dont need voicechat
- that own a Wii U

Yep

Maybe about as well as wonderful 101

No it's going to flop. But it will be marketed by Nintendo as the next big one though.

I figure it's going to be a cult classic. Might not even sell enough to warrant a sequel.

Honestly I'm not even sure there is a market for Splatoon. A lot of young kids these days are already playing Call of Duty and talking all kinds of random shit online. I think Mario Kart and Smash are still so popular because you cant find anything as good elsewhere and I don't see Splatoon being able to pull away the younger generation from the already established shooters.

I could of course be horribly wrong but the market just seems so volatile these days.

A major IP that will unfortunately not sell well.

You might see an Inkling as a Assist Trophy in Smash 5

That's about it

I hope the game succeeds, but I'm betting it's gonna bomb. Shooter fans and cartoony squids splooging ink everywhere is something I would not fund if I were a businessman.

It looks awesome, but unfortunately I don't see it selling all that well. The Wii U market is just too small, it would need a pretty crazy attach rate for a new IP to warrant a sequel.

I think it'll be a one-and-done series.

Its totally going to flop. It doesnt have anything the mainstream audience want.

lol, no.

If it's any consolation, though, it will do better than Wonderful 101.

i expect it to bomb

Nah I expect it to be the next Wonderful 101

Majority of Nintendo fans will ignore it because Mario and co. ain't there

You can advertise something no one is really interested in as much as you want, people still won't buy it.

Personally I don't think so. I feel like they are coming a few years too late to the shooter game. I know that the game is somewhat unique from other shooters, but will it be a powerhouse to move consoles? I doubt it.

It will probably do average-ok first week sales, then disappear into the vortex of forgotten games hovering somewhere above its epicenter at Konami.

I'm not sure it will sell better than Bayonetta 2.

Really can't see it sadly.

Its not going to sell hardware. So its only whomever is playing wii-u now. There really is nothing else like it on the system so that will help. Pikman, Bayo and 101 is probably where is sits in sales. This month they really need to push the campaign part of this game or sales will be worse. Wii-u base is not multiplayer type in general. This really has the a good chance to tank. At best its a moderate success. The bar is pretty low.

I wish it was.
But I also wish to win the lottery.

I really do not see this doing well, but who knows, kids might go nuts over it.

It's going to bomb.

They're doing a Splatoon tour I think but I doubt it's going to do much for them. I'm going to wait for a price drop before picking it up.

I'm thinking it will be a light flop. Not terrible but it's not going to do all that well.

I think it'll bomb pretty hard. Not quite 101 bad, but close.

It's a Wii U game that doesn't have Mario, Zelda or Smash in the title. It could be the best game ever. It's still going to bomb. Best case scenario it becomes the Wii U's Tearaway.

At this point I'm in the camp that believes the game will bomb

I think sales wise it will do poorly.

It is not going to attract gamers from PS4/Xbone to get a WiiU to play this. There are WAY more games on those systems that are much more feature rich. Also it doesn't seem very competitive, and more "fun for everyone!" type of game.

I think there is a big deal for this game because its a first for a Nintendo IP to be a "shooter".

Considering how much of the Nintendo fanbase I've encountered over the years that loudly dismissed shooters and online play, I don't really expect it to do all that well, even among Nintendo's diehard crowd.

I predict a bomba, but I hope I'm wrong. Love the artstyle and the amiibos.

Also while the game looks good enough and appears to be fun, I think that it's not my thing. I'm probably not buying this or leaving it to the future.

It's launching on the Wii U...you honestly think it has a chance?

No.

I doubt it. I reckon it'll hit a couple of hundred thousand tops, lifetime. The super-core Nintendo crowd keeping the Wii U on life support will make some noise about it, as they are now.

Nope. It'll get lukewarm sales at best and be forgotten about.

I think it'll be a total bust, but those couple of months the playerbase sticks around are going to be a pretty sweet ride down.

I don't think so. It doesn't seem to babe enough new about it to make it hit and its launching on Wii u this hampering the ability of it to find a large audience.

I feel this game is gonna bomb... don't want it too.. but just feel like it's gonna bomb.. badly.

I was going to type the same exact thing.
At this point the only games on the Wii U I see selling very well are Mario and Zelda games. That's about it.

It will bomb, its a multiplayer game with no voice chat...

no new IPs could ever hope to become major on the WiiU, even less so a game like Splatoon. 200k LT ww tops is my prediction, and that will already be considered a sort of success

I don't expect it to be a major IP. It will probably be niche. Doubt that a sequel will be made either.

A shooter that's geared towards a shooter audience that doesn't buy shooter games? Yep this will be a definite bomb.

W101 was marketed in the UK both on prime time tv and in print. Splatoon hasn't had anything here yet, not even in the likes of the specialist retailers.

I dunno how well it's being marketed in the US or other parts of Europe but I can easily see an enormous bomb in the UK.

Expecting it to bomb big time.

Splatoon probably won't sell very well, I just hope it is as awesome as some of the other underachieving Wii U games. Hopefully the upcoming direct will get people more interested. I hope Nintendo go into more detail about the single player, its looking kind of bland right now.

I think it's going to go the way of W101.

I don't want it to, but it seems like everyone "the hype is real!" on GAF it's like dooming a game early.

I hope not though, it looks cool.

I don't think it'll sell very well. The name "Splatoon" + sort of pictures of paintball just looks kind of shovelware or mini-game like at first glance. I just think it's a hard sell unless you really market it hard, and Nintendo won't.

It's releasing on the wii U which is basically dead at this point. Even on a successful console this looks like it would be a niche game but on the wii U is be pretty shocked if t wasn't.

Hoping that isn't the case but I don't like the games chances.

I'm expecting something beetween Wonderfull 101 and Pikmin 3 sales.
Nintendo is going to advertise it because they don't have anything else for middle of 2015.

small potatoes

I hope it does well, but I doubt it.
No matter how well shooters gameplay feels natural to Nintendo's motion controllers, they have a history of failing on their recent consoles.

Remember Red Steel and The Conduit ?

PS: Can anyone help me find infos on the in-game rewards for each of the different Splatoon amiibos ? I can't find it online, and I need to know what to buy.
Also, will those rewards be exclusive or can they be unlocked even without the amiibos ?

Thanks !

this. Population meeting this profile must not be large imo.

I don't know how long it will last. Might burn out quick from it, hopefully I'm wrong though.

Seems like a flop in the making.

I think it'll bomb as well. I don't see it doing well.

I don't.

No.

It has Saturday morning cartoon charm. Maybe 'Ubisoft appealing to children' charm. Based on what I've seen it doesn't have Nintendo charm, not nearly.

Game won't break 500k worldwide.

I don't.

Nintendo is incapable of creating and maintaining new mega-IPs, for the possible exception of Wii Sports. Wii Fit? Dead. Nintendogs/cats? Dead. Brain Age? Dead. They reserve their AAA efforts and resources on old mascots, then they wonder why those are the only games that sell.

Splatoon doesn't even have a good local co-op feature. 1vs1? WTF. Nintendo is suffering from some sort of identity crisis this generation. On one hand, they want to resurrect the local/family multiplayer experience, but on the other hand they're pushing new IPs that don't bring such experiences to households.

Hard to give birth to a new major IP on Wii U, it's a private circle for best selling titles. If we see the characters in Smash, though.. there could be a chance. Personally, I don't think so.

 

[McNum]

One needs steady hands for it to be useful at higher sensitivities. Not that different from wiimote pointer games actually, I guess people used to that will be right at home with gyro.

I played Ocarina of Time 3D and Majora's Mask 3D. Gyro aiming is second nature to me after that.

I never made it far in this because my matches came too quickly :C

"Dear Nintendo. Your matchmaking server is too fast to be able to play your waiting minigame. Please find matches slower."

On second thought, this is probably a good thing.

 

[-Horizon-]

I don't think I ever paid attention to what level I was on haha.

 

[Razmos]

That's a lot of quotes.

 

[jaina]

I never made it far in this because my matches came too quickly :C

I noticed it keeps progress between matches!

 

[ChosenPredator]

Really? Gyro feels so good. I own at using gyros but it is good there is an option for the less skilled

I was pretty good at it didn't really ever get owned and it wasn't a skill thing ( I know most people are applying it to lack of skill) I just simply don't like it, it hurts my head lol

 

[Refreshment.01]

That's not an option (in the demo).

yeah that's not an option and it needs to be. a full on hybrid set up is the way to go and I'm really puzzled why they chose this instead.

Thanks for responding.

Didn't the guys that went into Nintendo offical events said that you could do full aiming with motion and use the thumbstick?

 

[Exile20]

I noticed it keeps progress between matches!

Oh shit that is awesome.

 

[Kriken]

Just a friendly reminder.

And a quick counter reminder, that's hourly sales from Amazon in Wii U games specifically. Also, Amazon isn't the best indicator for software sales

 

[Astral Dog]

Just a friendly reminder.

Im sure Bayonetta 2 was also top spot for awhile, not that Splatoon is not going to outsell it.

 

[Doorman]

Just a friendly reminder.

I hope the game does well, new IPs from Nintendo are always a fun treat and I'd love to see them continue to develop the concepts they've established so far. But...don't go smugly counting your chickens and prepping plates of crow just yet.

 

[Datschge]

I played Ocarina of Time 3D and Majora's Mask 3D. Gyro aiming is second nature to me after that.

Right, those are even better comparisons.

 

[Neoxon]

I hope the game does well, new IPs from Nintendo are always a fun treat and I'd love to see them continue to develop the concepts they've established so far. But...don't go smugly counting your chickens and prepping plates of crow just yet.

Don't worry, all I got was the propane tank.

Though if I recall, I don't think either Bayonetta 2, The Wonderful 101, or Code Name STEAM topped the charts at all (hourly or otherwise).

 

[cooljeanius]

I had no idea we could walk backwards.

I splatted so many rollers while doing this last night...

 

[Jeels]

Just a friendly reminder.

Before you get all excited, the game isn't actually out yet. Let's not use Amazon charts to make a point.

 

[Vylash]

Just a friendly reminder.

people say this about every game nintendo puts out though

 

[Neoxon]

Before you get all excited, the game isn't actually out yet. Let's not use Amazon charts to make a point.

Fair enough, but it's definitely a good sign.

 

[Out_Of_Ammo]

Is there an other way to get those DLC missions/equipment from amiibos? I don't want to hunt for expensive DLC.

 

[Crayolan]

Everytime someone express they are skipping the game after playing the demo I get worried. Don't want Splatoon to be a ghost town 1 month after release :'( Smash and MK8 will always have people online since they are very popular and stablished franchises but Splatoon is a brand new IP...

The constant stream of content will pretty much guarantee the community stays alive until August. Or at least I think so.

Just a friendly reminder.

Okay, first off, why?

And second, that's not really indicative of overall sales at all. All this says is that the demo has helped people finalize their decision to purchase the game, which hopefully encourages Nintendo to continue to make more and more demos for their future games.

 

[phanphare]

Just a friendly reminder.

that's quite the wall of potential shame you've got there haha

 

[Neoxon]

that's quite the wall of potential shame you've got there haha

Pre-made not too long ago.

 

[Mandelbo]

The OST for this is absolutely superb - has the song that plays during loadout selection been put on youtube yet? I have a desire to listen to it on repeat until 8:00.

 

[thefro]

Don't worry, all I got was the propane tank.

Though if I recall, I don't think either Bayonetta 2, The Wonderful 101, or Code Name STEAM topped the charts at all (hourly or otherwise).

Bayonetta 2 did after the demo came out... I remember taking a screenshot and posting the .png here.

 

[phanphare]

Pre-made not too long ago.

expect a lot of back peddling and semantics bickering ;p

 

[Neoxon]

Bayonetta 2 did after the demo came out... I remember taking a screenshot and posting the .png here.

And even then, Bayonetta 2 sold better than the other 2 examples mentioned.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

Really looking forward to getting back in later, didn't expect to enjoy it as much as I have so far.

 

[Platy]

The diference in "high skill" gameplay to "non skill" gameplay is DINOSSAURIC !

And what frightens me the most is that the "high skill" gameplay is JUST 2 HOURS OF TRAINING

 

[hatchx]

Just a friendly reminder.

Wonder if any of those people plan to buy the game?

 

[Mat-triX]

For people that hate Gyro: How exactly are you moving the controller? If your taking the controller off your lap, your doing it wrong. I don't undestand how people could hate it so much since you just need to move the controller alittle to aim.

 

[Refreshment.01]

I'm personally glad there's no voice chat option in-game (if you really need it, you can always use skype or another outside program). Do more people want voice chat than want no voice chat? Maybe but that doesn't affect my own personal preferences.

And yes, I'm biased. I quit LoL because of this issue. Super toxic community but if you wanted to be competitive, you had to communicate with your team.

That's where we differ, i try to view things as objectivly as is possible to me. i try to avoid positions that are only for my benefit, when there are options where everyone gains.

And no, one can't always Skype or PS4 or X1 one chat. What i do know is that the Gamepad has a built in mic, that is in fact used quite well in other online games even of less relevancy than Nintendo ones. So expecting the company to support that functionaliy is reasonable.