(SPOILERS)Rogue One - 46 Shots Not In The Final Movie

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The video(saw it on Kotaku).

I kept waiting to see some of these in the movie. Reshoots must've been massive. The posters with Stormtroopers in the water, TIE Fighter at the tower and the battle on the beach that was hyped up never happens. The transmission tower seems to have taken that place in the 3rd act with them never getting out of it with the plans. The plot still works but Jyn seems a bit different. Strange they still went for posters that show things that changed.
 
It's already been reported that a lot of these shots were in fact from test shoots, and the rest were cut because they didn't serve the already fairly convoluted story.

The final third act wasn't changed as much as people seem to think it was. I'll dig up some Hidalgo tweets if people want proof.
 
meh, it worked out fine, doesnt look like anything great was missed.

The beach storm / AT-AT stuff looks cool but eh..
 
I think we may have had a bigger backstory for Jyn in the original version. I think we were going to see what she was doing between her being picked up by Saw at the start, and the main events of the movie, possibly showing her trying to track down her father, or something. In this video you can see a bunch of footage of Saw with a shaved head, implying it is a flashback, but he is saying "if you continue to fight, what will you become", leading me to believe he is talking to a teenage or adult Jyn.
 
Jibbed said:
It's already been reported that a lot of these shots were in fact from test shoots, and the rest were cut because they didn't serve the already fairly convoluted story.

The final third act wasn't changed as much as people seem to think it was. I'll dig up some Hidalgo tweets if people want proof.
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I'm not sure I entirely believe it, because there are multiple shots of Jyn with the Death Star plans on the beach running. In addition, Cassian is running next to her, so I suspect there was some stuff removed (and changed/added) between her grabbing the plans and making it to the comm tower. I don't think it really fundamentally changes what happens in the film, but I think it's clear that it changed.

I've seen speculation that the space battle was added and so they cut some of the on-foot action, and I can possibly believe it.

Jackpot said:
Strange they got rid of the felled Jedi statue.
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That's still in the film. I believe they pan out and show it after the pilot meets up with Saw's group and gets the bag over his head.
 
SuperEpicMan said:
I think we may have had a bigger backstory for Jyn in the original version. I think we were going to see what she was doing between her being picked up by Saw at the start, and the main events of the movie, possibly showing her trying to track down her father, or something. In this video you can see a bunch of footage of Saw with a shaved head, implying it is a flashback, but he is saying "if you continue to fight, what will you become", leading me to believe he is talking to a teenage or adult Jyn.
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Yeah, that seems quite likely. It also makes sense why they would cut it, as it likely bogged down the beginning the film and would have been easy to excise. Would be why we got so little Saw too, despite the casting and his presence in advertising seeming to indicate a bigger role. Probably lost a lot due to shortening down the first act and later scenes had to be reworked because of it, which would explain the alterations to the scenes in the trailers taking place on Jedha.
 
Patryn said:
I'm not sure I entirely believe it, because there are multiple shots of Jyn with the Death Star plans on the beach running. In addition, Cassian is running next to her, so I suspect there was some stuff removed (and changed/added) between her grabbing the plans and making it to the comm tower. I don't think it really fundamentally changes what happens in the film, but I think it's clear that it changed.

I've seen speculation that the space battle was added and so they cut some of the on-foot action, and I can possibly believe it.
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Yeah that makes sense. Also, I don't think they would purposefully shoot a bunch of explosive action scenes just for test footage as it would be really expensive.
 
Thing that bugged me towards the end was Jyn taking off her disguise off-screen to be wearing what she had on before including stuff that shouldn't have fit under the disguise.
 
Rogue One slightly frustrates me, because I watched it and thought "man, if they changed a, b & c this could have been better the ROTJ!".

It was still the best SW movie *since* ROTJ, but it had the potential to be even better.

Adding more Forest Whitaker in the first 15 minutes to give us a reason to care about his relationship, adding more interplay between the mains so we know what they think of each other, tweaking
vader's
dialogue a bit to make it more as the style of the original films, and cutting the final shot in the movie, ending it before
Leia
turns round.

I think with those and a couple of other tweaks it would break into the top three.
 
CreeperBlocks said:
Do you guys think Rogue One will get a Director's Cut or something? Or will they just add these scenes in the deleted scene section?
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A director's cut is theoretically possible, but unlikely. From what it seems, many of these shots/scenes have been replaced outright (specifically just about anything that wouldn't be from the first act), rather than just being cut scenes. I don't really think Lucasfilm, particularly the story group, want alternate edits with actual story alterations, and I have a feeling any story alterations were likely for the best and that Edwards is probably happy with them anyway. Including them in the deleted scenes seems much more likely.

Sanjuro said:
We have no context on how it would have been used in the film.
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I get the feeling that take was intended for trailers only, but I guess who knows.
 
I always expected the movie to end with Vader personally slaughtering the Rogue One crew. Maybe that was the part that got removed.
 
So there was an additional Vader scene with Krennic? The backgrounds in this scene look different compared to when Krennic is at
Mustafar
. And also he sounds a bit more confident here
 
The Death Star hologram suggests that maybe the Alliance would have been in a position to be willing to work with Jyn prior to Rogue One going... rogue.

Anything more of Darth Vader would have been welcome.

The data tape being in Jyn's hands while they run at the AT-ATs suggests the transmission tower was a separate building from the archive. Probably edited for pacing.

Most of it is fluff that looks like it was cut for pacing.

I get the impression the last third of the film was hit hardest with reshoots.
 
I didn't really feel anything for Jyn throughout the movie, I wonder if adding back some of those earlier scenes would've fleshed her out more and made her more interesting. I kind of liked how she seemed to have a bit of attitude about her in some of those (the I rebel line is lame though). That being said, there's no guarantees that scene would add anything, and then it would just bog down the movie more, so for me its a line call.

I would've liked to see the running with the plans sequence and the Stormtroopers storming the beach, but the Scariff sequence is pretty tight as well, so again I don't know if it would be beneficial for the movie or not.
 
Movie wasn't very good. I'd hate to see it before the reshoots, if it was allegedly worse.

Too bad about some of these scenes though. They seem pretty cool in concept.
 
Pretty sure the shot of the rebels running trough the jungle with the AT-AT feet stomping down behind them was in the movie. But I can be wrong.

Also, wasn't the line 'we've received news a weapons test is imminent' cut too? I felt they tweaked the plot so that the Rebel Alliance wasn't actually aware of the existence of the death start as is, as if in the original version it was always the plan to get the plans. Can be mistaken too (saw the film only one time).

Mainly I have the impression they reshot a lot of the third act to tighten it. Having the plans in the tower dish and having to send it from it, in stead of running with the plans over the battlefield. (I think the original version might have been that the plans were elsewhere, the Tie on the tower shot seems to imply the dish was always there as a plot point)

I really hope they have a big, honest making of like the Hobbit films had (they were brutally honest there), so we get an insight in what changed and why. Must be very interesting for Star War Fans and movie buffs alike. Also really hope to see the ground battle in the deleted scenes, because that shot of the AT-AT firing at the running rebels was what sold me on the first trailer :P
 
Interesting. The movie away it is felt off, very choppy and the flow was off. The script didn't do many favors with weak characterization either. I didn't care about Jyn at all.
 
Osahi said:
Pretty sure the shot of the rebels running trough the jungle with the AT-AT feet stomping down behind them was in the movie. But I can be wrong.

Also, wasn't the line 'we've received news a weapons test is imminent' cut too? I felt they tweaked the plot so that the Rebel Alliance wasn't actually aware of the existence of the death start as is, as if in the original version it was always the plan to get the plans. Can be mistaken too (saw the film only one time).

Mainly I have the impression they reshot a lot of the third act to tighten it. Having the plans in the tower dish and having to send it from it, in stead of running with the plans over the battlefield. (I think the original version might have been that the plans were elsewhere, the Tie on the tower shot seems to imply the dish was always there as a plot point)

I really hope they have a big, honest making of like the Hobbit films had (they were brutally honest there), so we get an insight in what changed and why. Must be very interesting for Star War Fans and movie buffs alike. Also really hope to see the ground battle in the deleted scenes, because that shot of the AT-AT firing at the running rebels was what sold me on the first trailer :P
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I thought the same thing, if its not that shot its one very very similar to it.
 
First drafts aren't best drafts, folks.

You may think you want a lot of these scenes because they're different from what you got, but you have no idea whether they worked. And judging that they took them out, my guess would be they didn't.
 
Sir_Crocodile said:
Rogue One slightly frustrates me, because I watched it and thought "man, if they changed a, b & c this could have been better the ROTJ!".

It was still the best SW movie *since* ROTJ, but it had the potential to be even better.

Adding more Forest Whitaker in the first 15 minutes to give us a reason to care about his relationship, adding more interplay between the mains so we know what they think of each other, tweaking
vader's
dialogue a bit to make it more as the style of the original films, and cutting the final shot in the movie, ending it before
Leia
turns round.

I think with those and a couple of other tweaks it would break into the top three.
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I thought Forest Whitaker was downright terrible. I would remove him from the movie completely if I had my druthers. He was so out of place and he played the role way too hammy. Some actors just don't work in certain roles. I strongly feel that Forest Whitaker didn't mesh with this movie. Just like Edward Norton shouldn't be in any period pieces. It's not because they're bad actors but because they don't work. Al Pacino or De Niro in Star Wars? Would be a travesty. For that matter, Jimmy Smits doesn't fit either.
 
Osahi said:
Pretty sure the shot of the rebels running trough the jungle with the AT-AT feet stomping down behind them was in the movie. But I can be wrong.
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That exact shot is missing. A different version of it's in the movie.
 
firelogic said:
I thought Forest Whitaker was downright terrible. I would remove him from the movie completely if I had my druthers. He was so out of place and he played the role way too hammy. Some actors just don't work in certain roles. I strongly feel that Forest Whitaker didn't mesh with this movie. Just like Edward Norton shouldn't be in any period pieces. It's not because they're bad actors but because they don't work. Al Pacino or De Niro in Star Wars? Would be a travesty. For that matter, Jimmy Smits doesn't fit either.
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Whatever accent he was using was terrible. It felt like Whitaker was doing Shakespeare in Space.
 
firelogic said:
I thought Forest Whitaker was downright terrible. I would remove him from the movie completely if I had my druthers. He was so out of place and he played the role way too hammy. Some actors just don't work in certain roles. I strongly feel that Forest Whitaker didn't mesh with this movie. Just like Edward Norton shouldn't be in any period pieces. It's not because they're bad actors but because they don't work. Al Pacino or De Niro in Star Wars? Would be a travesty. For that matter, Jimmy Smits doesn't fit either.
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Yeah I have no issue with that. I was more talking about how we're supposed to care about this character - and believe that Jyn has a deep relationship with him - through just exposition.

A few minutes with him taking her back to his base and consoling her over her parents, and then a timeskip to a brief skit with him training her wouldn't have gone amiss.
 
From Collider and the Hollywood Reporter:
We knew quite a few reshoots happened, but Mendelsohn better explained what it all meant to the story and how it changed, apparently altogether.

"We did have multiple, multiple ways of going at any given scenario, we had multiple readings of it," Mendelsohn told Collider. "So should they ever decide to, there would be a wealth of ways of approaching these different things. And I know from having seen sort of the crucial kind of scenes throughout it, I know there’s vastly different readings of at least four of those scenes.

He continued that there are “enormous differences within, I would’ve said 20 or 30 of the scenes. There really would be. There would be enormously different renderings.”
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