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Spring Anime 2017 |OT| Don't be a SukaSuka for Gacha

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Cornbread78

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Koe no Katachi/Silent Voice

Quite the emotional rollercoaster. Really great film.

Definitely a roller coaster. I wish I undestood the final bridge scene better when I first watched it.


They get to it, but I'm not sure I'm completely clear on the finer points of it in terms of humans being familiars for other humans. Beyond being a disciple of the other.

Got yeah. I was surprised how that scene played out with his girl. How did he not know? Then he is upset and goes and puts himself in her situation for his "childhood friend"

Mawaru Penguindrum 01
Seems like it could be interesting, though I really hope this doesn't go 2deep4me with the symbolism.

Yeah, about that.....


The Tatami Galaxy: 9-11
I finally finished the rest of it. Quiet odd final two episodes (well, odder than usual), but I think they were creative ways of having the protagonist contemplate on his priorities in life.

He finally figured out what he needed to do on life. Just a little love in his heart, lol.
 
Definitely a roller coaster. I wish I undestood the final bridge scene better when I first watched it.

Out of curiosity, how you did you interpret the final bridge scene the first time?

I've already watched the movie twice since reading about it on gaf this week and it blew me away emotionally (some of the themes resonate strongly with me).
 
This is going to be kind of weird describing it as such due to the fact that it was made in the 90's but Stardust Memory feels like a very good attempt at making an 80's OVA anime. Things such as ideology being pushed to the forefront, the character designs, and tone are more reminiscent of something like Megazone 23.

I agree, it does have a very 80s feel. Heck I almost wanted to correct you about when it came out till I remembered it did indeed hit very early 90s lol. I think it really does feel incredibly 80s.
 
Black Clover TV Visual.


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Yesssssssss they went with Dorksta x Yuno visual, sorry Noelle and Sister fans! Canon.

So looking at the individual manga list and comparing to the by series list. If the the 2 new volumes that appeared make for 1 million together. That would mean the other million is spread across the rest of the volumes. The anime doing its job!

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The series sold the same amount in the same period in 2016, so it doesnt seem like the animes 2nd season is causing the fanbase to grow, especially considering theres more volumes noe than there were at the cutoff of 2016 (first half)
 

Cornbread78

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Out of curiosity, how you did you interpret the final bridge scene the first time?

I've already watched the movie twice since reading about it on gaf this week and it blew me away emotionally (some of the themes resonate strongly with me).


That was when he
asked to get "closer" to her and understand her, as friends I belive
I can't wait for the bd to drop, so I can watch it again (hopefully dubbed) to get better perspective on the silent and verbal statements being made.
 
There had been always a thing or two that bothered me with Kado. The moment that hit me hard was how they somehow managed to insert a Summer festival into it. Like... What. It was the most random thing ever. It didn't help that, of course they had to put the girl negotiator in a yukata, and of course she had to be pissed about it, and of course Shindo would compliment her AND OF COURSE she would have to get the blushes.

Sigh. I should have just stuck with the high art that is the adaptation of yhe 8th best selling LN of 2017, Eromanga-sensei.
 
Yesssssssss they went with Dorksta x Yuno visual, sorry Noelle and Sister fans! Canon.



The series sold the same amount in the same period in 2016, so it doesnt seem like the animes 2nd season is causing the fanbase to grow, especially considering theres more volumes noe than there were at the cutoff of 2016 (first half)
Last year was also seeing the first adaptations at the same time. For it to have similar numbers with season 2's adaptation is a sign of growth imo.
 

phaze

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ready for some fun lists.

Top Selling Light Novels of the first half of 2017.

1 707,300 Sword Art Online
2 578,811 KonoSuba – God’s blessing on this wonderful world!!
3 540,806 Re:Zero
4 412,086 Novel your name.
5 344,286 The Saga of Evil Tanya
6 299,957 The irregular at magic high school
7 275,579 Akashic Records of the Bastard Magical Instructor
8 239,132 Eromanga Sensei
9 231,214 Regarding Reincarnated to Slime
10 168,725 KonoSuba – God’s blessing on this wonderful world!! Spinoff
11 155,631 Overlord
12 155,625 Saekano: How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend
13 151,679 Monogatari Series
14 140,639 Kokuhaku Yokō Renshū
15 137,160 No Game, No Life
16 123,136 Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? Side Story
17 117,210 Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
18 108,564 Goblin Slayer
19 104,018 Aria the Scarlet Ammo
20 96,624 FATE/STRANGE FAKE
21 96,200 Novel Bungo Stray Dogs
22 94,469 No Game, No Life Short Story Collection
23 93,118 Accel World
24 88,653 Haikyu!! Novel Edition!!
25 87,316 Imōto Sae Ireba Ii.
26 85,505 Gamers!
27 84,372 Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekaisaikyou
28 80,553 Tokyo Ghoul:re Novelization
29 79,133 Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index (New Testament: A Certain Magical Index)
30 76,801 Ryūō no Oshigoto!

source

top selling manga for the first half of 2017. (by series)
if you are curious about by volume you can look here



source

I had no clue Kingdom was still selling this much. Unless there was something that spurred backlog sales this must be around 1 million per volume.
 
The Most Tweeted Spring 2017 TV Anime Top 10
(April 16 - May 23, 2017)




1. "Attack on Titan Season 2" - 582,350 times

2. "Eromanga Sensei" - 337,813

3. "My Hero Academia Season 2" - 230,902

4. "Idol Time PriPara" - 177,419

5. "Frame Arms Girl" - 143,079

6. "Star-Mu 2nd Season" - 129,620

7. "Saekano -How to Raise a Boring Girlfriend- ♭" - 119,101

8. "Hinako Note" - 103,301

9. "Natsume Yujin-cho 6" - 100,954

10. "Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor" - 99,433

Some of these are unexpected.

Boruto flopping hard
 
I dont think 2mln is a spike over 2mln.
No maybe not against 2016, but it's still a spike? That 1 million from the other volume that did not come out this year isn't standard. Same as last year. It's new fans coming in the series buying the backlog. So yea its still a spike caused by the anime. I don't get what you are trying to say to me here. MHA's fanbase his clearly showing growth.
 
Usually a first adaptations cause a spike in a series sell with people catching up on the series. So for season 2 to have a similar spike is still a sign of growth in the fanbase. Am I wrong?

I think it's too little data to be sure one way or the other. DTL is right it isn't a spike over 2016, but assuming your numbers prior to 2016 were right, then it's still a spike over what it had originally been selling prior to its anime. As for how healthy that is, I think we'd need to know more about which volumes are selling.
 

Cornbread78

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Fairy Tail ep.104
The main evil force has arrived and chosen their Fairy prey for battle. Master is alreasy getting his ass kicked. I'm ready for all kinds of bad guy OP super magic bullshit to destroy the guild members over the next 10 or so episodes....
 

kewlmyc

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ready for some fun lists.

Top Selling Light Novels of the first half of 2017.
If people are confused as to what happened to sales juggernaut Oregairu, volume 12 STILL hasn't released. Been 2+ years since volume 11 released. We're never going to get the end of the story at this rate.
 

petran79

Banned
Cant feel more torn regarding anime taking place in America.

On the one hand the subtlety of Shiawase Monogatari.

On the other hand...Mad Bull 34. Couldnt believe what I watched. This may make me stop watching anime alltogether. Its realism to actual circumstances is scary.
 
I think it's too little data to be sure one way or the other. DTL is right it isn't a spike over 2016, but assuming your numbers prior to 2016 were right, then it's still a spike over what it had originally been selling prior to its anime. As for how healthy that is, I think we'd need to know more about which volumes are selling.
I never said DTL was wrong about 2016. I mean it posted the same result with 4 volume less. What I am saying is that even purely looking at the numbers 2017 is another spike.

From ANN We see MHA sold 2 090 000 total so far in 2017. Looking at individual volumes from ANN numbers volume 12 sold 530k and 13 sold 477k. The 1 million floating elsewhete is people buying the backlog from years prior. Hence why I said it's still a spike or a boost. With 11 other volumes thats still 90k average per volume. I consider this growth.
 
I never said DTL was wrong about 2016. I mean it posted the same result with 4 volume less. What I am saying is that even purely looking at the numbers 2017 is another spike.

From ANN We see MHA sold 2 090 000 total so far in 2017. Looking at individual volumes from ANN numbers volume 12 sold 530k and 13 sold 477k. The 1 million floating elsewhete is people buying the backlog from years prior. Hence why I said it's still a spike or a boost. With 11 other volumes thats still 90k average per volume. I consider this growth.

I never said you said DTL was wrong. I was affirming that he was right there was no sales boost over what the 2016 numbers were. I also said you were right that the anime was seemingly continuing to inflate sales since the numbers lined up with 2016.

It is nice that it is selling well.
 
I never said you said DTL was wrong. I was affirming that he was right there was no sales boost over what the 2016 numbers were. I also said you were right that the anime was seemingly continuing to inflate sales since the numbers lined up with 2016.

It is nice that it is selling well.
Oh yea you did. Sorry I read that wrong.
 
I never said DTL was wrong about 2016. I mean it posted the same result with 4 volume less. What I am saying is that even purely looking at the numbers 2017 is another spike.

From ANN We see MHA sold 2 090 000 total so far in 2017. Looking at individual volumes from ANN numbers volume 12 sold 530k and 13 sold 477k. The 1 million floating elsewhete is people buying the backlog from years prior. Hence why I said it's still a spike or a boost. With 11 other volumes thats still 90k average per volume. I consider this growth.

Backlog sales are common with nearly every series. If you want to see growth look at individual volume sales. Isn't MHA still doing <600k?
 
Don't look down on us and make light of our despair!


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Your despair?!?

I'm still sitting here waiting for the rest of Accel World to get animated! I've had to deal with getting screwed over regarding the movie which wasn't actually a movie but a clip-show merged with an OVA that took place near the end of the LNs!

I'm still sitting here waiting for somebody to give Yasuhiro Imagawa a mecha anime to work on!

I'm still sitting here having to deal with Tomica Hyper Rescue just so I can get even the slightest mordicum of old-school super robot fun!

DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT DESPAIR.

Despite like 90% of LNs being pure trash, Oreigairu is surprisingly decent/good for being a melodrama high school romcom. It's mostly due to the MC not being a cardboard cutout though.

i can't watch high school romances anymore unless there's some kind of interesting giga twist with the premise.

i still have to finish Lie in April and Chihiyafaru too.
 

Cornbread78

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Your despair?!?

I'm still sitting here waiting for the rest of Accel World to get animated! I've had to deal with getting screwed over regarding the movie which wasn't actually a movie but a clip-show merged with an OVA that took place near the end of the LNs!

I'm still sitting here waiting for somebody to give Yasuhiro Imagawa a mecha anime to work on!

I'm still sitting here having to deal with Tomica Hyper Rescue just so I can get even the slightest mordicum of old-school super robot fun!

DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT DESPAIR.


i can't watch high school romances anymore unless there's some kind of interesting giga twist with the premise.

i still have to finish Lie in April and Chihiyafaru too.


Hey, in the past month, I have finished some great classics in Beck, Nana and Silver Spoon; all of which are incomplete and it hurts to not get more.....


Oh and SNAFU is NOT your typical teenage "romance" anime. As kewlmyc mentioned it is more about the MC being completely different from your typical MCs and the show itself is much more psychological than your typical LN "romance" or "comedy" story..


Hope slipping for Magical Girl Raising Project to get a second season. I know its niche, but I want to dream.

Yeah, the anime didn't appear to catch on as well as they had hoped....


Wasn't that show just magical girl torture and murder porn?

Well, yeah, that about sums it up nicely... magical girl despair and murder...
 

Sterok

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Wasn't that show just magical girl torture and murder porn?

It's a different sort of deconstruction from Madoka Magica. Less about suffering itself and more about how tough it is to be a good hero/magical girl when there are so many assholes and people with conflicting ideologies. Plus it doesn't reverse the bad stuff that happens unlike most dark magical girl shows. It's a series that hit a lot of things I really like.

I suppose the best hope is that the second arc is a trapped in a game story, so maybe being in a more known genre will help its chances.
 

Szadek

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Wasn't that show just magical girl torture and murder porn?
Not much torture , but some despair instead.
It's a different sort of deconstruction from Madoka Magica. Less about suffering itself and more about how tough it is to be a good hero/magical girl when there are so many assholes and people with conflicting ideologies. Plus it doesn't reverse the bad stuff that happens unlike most dark magical girl shows. It's a series that hit a lot of things I really like.

I suppose the best hope is that the second arc is a trapped in a game story, so maybe being in a more known genre will help its chances.
It's not deconsturcting anything.
Really, pretending that it has any kind of deeper meaning is giving the author way too much credit.
 

Cornbread78

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Swim Swim 2020

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coming right at ya.

BTW, while we're on this topic (spoilers):

Why the fu(k did they think it was OK to make the main serial killer a 9 year old girl in real life? I mean come on... they can't hide behind how ridic and stupid it was to cast a little girl to mastermind a way to kill all the other magical girls and just go bat$hit crazy

/small rant
 
The more I rewatch Nichijou scenes the better the show gets. The visuals are sick. It's a real sakuga treasure trove, has godly art direction and character expressions. Might be the only show where even my most loathed cheeky-mouthes look perfectly fine.

Directing and comedic timing is on point, too, that's why I seemingly appreciate the jokes more on continuous views instead of getting tired of them.

example scene

On the other hand, might be that just watching the likely 20+ best scenes every now and then skews my view a bit. I'm in the mood to rewatch the entire series, though.
 

Sterok

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It's not deconsturcting anything.
Really, pretending that it has any kind of deeper meaning is giving the author way too much credit.

Magical Girls not all being focused on saving the world since when you're handing out power half-haphazardly like most MG shows you're not going to strike gold all the time. When given power meant to help others some people just focus on bettering themselves or being selfish over doing what they're supposed to be doing. Not the deepest thing, but there is a little depth.

I also like how nominally they're supposed to just be helping people instead of a bunch of middle schoolers being recruited for a war originating from a different dimension, but that doesn't come across very well given how bloody the series is.
 
I also like how nominally they're supposed to just be helping people instead of a bunch of middle schoolers being recruited for a war originating from a different dimension, but that doesn't come across very well given how bloody the series is.

In order for this sort of 'deconstruction', which itself is a highly contested term, to apply you'd actually have to have a very similar setting to the shows you're supposedly deconstructing. Otherwise a comparison doesn't work to begin with.
 

Sterok

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In order for this sort of 'deconstruction', which itself is a highly contested term, to apply you'd actually have to have a very similar setting to the shows you're supposedly deconstructing. Otherwise a comparison doesn't work to begin with.

That was a separate comment from the deconstruction stuff. Sorry if that was unclear.

Though I do agree deconstruction is a nebulous term. Genre analysis perhaps? Well regardless, I maintain that there is some thought put into the show even if it does have several pitfalls. The author is a big MG fan, but that sort of stuff is much more in the background.
 
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