The whole thing is just a mess. Honestly at this point I'm convinced Tsukai is the author's waifu because Shindo has more chemistry with literally everyone else in the cast.
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The whole thing is just a mess. Honestly at this point I'm convinced Tsukai is the author's waifu because Shindo has more chemistry with literally everyone else in the cast.
Meh, I've been doing it for the past three or four years and it's not a big deal. In some ways it's easier going by yourself as you don't have to acquiesce to other people.
Jex
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That sounds like an anime fan!
I have a whole week (1 day) to make the thread.
Berserk 2017: Episode 12
I will start by saying this.
I did not mind the ending of the 1997 anime. While I don't necessarily think a cliffhanger was the perfect way to end the show, it at least happened at the most climactic moment and served it's purposed of getting you interested in reading the manga.
Okay. That said, this episode is one of the laziest, most anti-climatic and incompetent endingS I have ever scene in any show or film.
Following is a synopsis of the episode. I will spoil every goddamn thing. So don't read if that matters to you.
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I will start by saying this.
I did not mind the ending of the 1997 anime. While I don't necessarily think a cliffhanger was the perfect way to end the show, it at least happened at the most climactic moment and served it's purposed of getting you interested in reading the manga.
Okay. That said, this episode is one of the laziest, most anti-climatic and incompetent endingS I have ever scene in any show or film.
Following is a synopsis of the episode. I will spoil every goddamn thing. So don't read if that matters to you.
Firstly, we start off with the crew on the outskirt of the city. Seeing as how the previous episode ended very abruptly with Guts being pulled out of the Berserker Armor on a beach, this is very jarring. There's no mention of what happened in the previous episode, no ramifications, nothing whatsoever. This episode is self-contained, completely separated from what immediately came before it.
Second, we get to see Schierke be denied access into the city by the guards like in the manga. She then jedi mind tricks them and does it again to some other guys, and that's when we start to see repeated character models.
Remember these guys?
Well they're back!
And they aren't the first reused models we'll see. I actually made a game of spotting the same character model while watching this episode.
I realize that reusing models is something commonly done in animated shows, but when I remember stuff from the anime like this
I can't help but be cynical.
Anyway, Isidro then pulls Schierke away and in the very next frame they're in an alley. He then knocks her hat off and it gets run over by cart. Schierke runs away crying and Isidro is sent to look for her. Up till now, less than 2 minutes have occurred in this episode, reminding the audience that this is really just a shitty and poorly paced drama anime when you get right down to it.
After this point, Schierke goes to some deserted street where she sees a ghost that is pretty much a balloon man.
who she then follows to a courtyard full of hanged Kushan slaves who all have balloon shaped ghosts. After some more stilted exposition, she jedi mind tricks a couple of guards into lowering the dead bodies.
We then get several cuts of Isidro robotically animating to stiff and poorly textured character models about her location.
We get back to Schierke who has ended up at a dock and see some ships and seems puzzled by their existence.
Back to Isidro, he's told that she's at the docks and to hurry because there are pirates.
Repeated model!
As Isidro's leaving he's stopped by Mule, who, as far as I remember, has only been in one episode before this and it wasn't established that he's assigned to be Sonia's bodyguard. If I'm wrong on that than please let me know since I don't really remember too well because this anime is stupid. Either way, the audience really has no clue who he is at this point due to how poorly set up he was.
Things then continue exactly like the manga. Isidro thinks he's looking for Schierke so he runs off for her and then we cut to Schierke sitting on the pier and she's approached by Sonia. Sonia then proceeds to tell the entire duck story exactly like in the manga. As in, she includes the bit about Griffith rescuing Charolette and how she's jealous and everything.
Which I guess is fine.....if you completely forget that never happened in the anime. The people behind this show clearly did not give a fuck.
Also, did you know seagulls can fly without going anywhere and that they don't even need to fly at all and instead can just levitate in the air?
Anyway, after they have their talk Schierke than says her goodbyes and returns to the group, because there's no way this anime would do something as ridiculous as introduce a bunch of laughable cartoon villains in the final episode for no other reason than that they were just trying to desperately cram in as much of the manga in as possible.
Ha ha ha. Yeah, right.'
Also,look at the guy in the middle. Remember him from anywhere? Cause the animators sure did!
I guess all that bullshit with the bandits from episode 1 of Berserk 2016 did have a greater meaning after all.
Anyway, they're rounding up Kushan kids and Schierke magically freezes one of them and the proportions in this shot look ridiculous.
Isidro then shows up and they have the fight scene like in the manga and it actually doesn't look disastrously terrible like the Grunbeld fight. It's still rubbish, and it's absolutely pathetic that this is supposed to be the climatic final battle of this anime. Isidro fighting the dumbass comic relief pirates in what was supposed to just be some down-time in the manga. Even Little Witch Academia has a better finale than this.
Because this story takes place on a high-speed plot railroad, the Mule magically finds himself at this plot relevant location. He assists Isidro in fighting the pirates and we get more assume blood effects.
After some more poorly choreographed fighting we then see the Pirate Captain, everyone's favorite Berserk character and truly the best villain to end on.
And I think he looks worse here than when he got turned into tentacles in the manga.
He and Mule have their fight scene for a few seconds, than it's Isidro's time. They fight on the rowboats and during this fight we get to see the most realistic water even since the Silent Hill HD Collection.
We then get this animation:
Keep in mind that Isidro is supposed to be talking for this entire shot.
Anyway, Azan is completely removed so Puck knocks the guy into the water and then the kids escape. Somehow. This anime sucks.
Things once again progress exactly like in the manga, Mule and Isidro have their poorly animated fist fight and Sonia asks Schierke to come with them and Schierke declines to instead stay with the wonderful team of strangers that blend into the background due to the perspective of this anime. Sonia than gives her cryptic warning and Schierke sees the image of the city under attack, which once again has no context for anyone who didn't read the manga and thus is a terrible way to end this anime on.
Isidro apologizes to Schierke for knocking over her hat earlier and than they go back to the group. The final scene is the tavern scene and then out of nowhere the shitty 3D animation suddenly completely changes to 2D and gives you an idea of what this show might have looked like if it had even the barest amount of care and effort put into it. The credits role and we get this:
Which might be cliffhanger for a third season or might be a not-so-subtle way of telling the audience to buy the manga if they want to see what happens next. Hopefully the later.
Second, we get to see Schierke be denied access into the city by the guards like in the manga. She then jedi mind tricks them and does it again to some other guys, and that's when we start to see repeated character models.
Remember these guys?
Well they're back!
And they aren't the first reused models we'll see. I actually made a game of spotting the same character model while watching this episode.
I realize that reusing models is something commonly done in animated shows, but when I remember stuff from the anime like this
I can't help but be cynical.
Anyway, Isidro then pulls Schierke away and in the very next frame they're in an alley. He then knocks her hat off and it gets run over by cart. Schierke runs away crying and Isidro is sent to look for her. Up till now, less than 2 minutes have occurred in this episode, reminding the audience that this is really just a shitty and poorly paced drama anime when you get right down to it.
After this point, Schierke goes to some deserted street where she sees a ghost that is pretty much a balloon man.
who she then follows to a courtyard full of hanged Kushan slaves who all have balloon shaped ghosts. After some more stilted exposition, she jedi mind tricks a couple of guards into lowering the dead bodies.
We then get several cuts of Isidro robotically animating to stiff and poorly textured character models about her location.
We get back to Schierke who has ended up at a dock and see some ships and seems puzzled by their existence.
Back to Isidro, he's told that she's at the docks and to hurry because there are pirates.
Repeated model!
As Isidro's leaving he's stopped by Mule, who, as far as I remember, has only been in one episode before this and it wasn't established that he's assigned to be Sonia's bodyguard. If I'm wrong on that than please let me know since I don't really remember too well because this anime is stupid. Either way, the audience really has no clue who he is at this point due to how poorly set up he was.
Things then continue exactly like the manga. Isidro thinks he's looking for Schierke so he runs off for her and then we cut to Schierke sitting on the pier and she's approached by Sonia. Sonia then proceeds to tell the entire duck story exactly like in the manga. As in, she includes the bit about Griffith rescuing Charolette and how she's jealous and everything.
Which I guess is fine.....if you completely forget that never happened in the anime. The people behind this show clearly did not give a fuck.
Also, did you know seagulls can fly without going anywhere and that they don't even need to fly at all and instead can just levitate in the air?
Anyway, after they have their talk Schierke than says her goodbyes and returns to the group, because there's no way this anime would do something as ridiculous as introduce a bunch of laughable cartoon villains in the final episode for no other reason than that they were just trying to desperately cram in as much of the manga in as possible.
Ha ha ha. Yeah, right.'
Also,look at the guy in the middle. Remember him from anywhere? Cause the animators sure did!
I guess all that bullshit with the bandits from episode 1 of Berserk 2016 did have a greater meaning after all.
Anyway, they're rounding up Kushan kids and Schierke magically freezes one of them and the proportions in this shot look ridiculous.
Isidro then shows up and they have the fight scene like in the manga and it actually doesn't look disastrously terrible like the Grunbeld fight. It's still rubbish, and it's absolutely pathetic that this is supposed to be the climatic final battle of this anime. Isidro fighting the dumbass comic relief pirates in what was supposed to just be some down-time in the manga. Even Little Witch Academia has a better finale than this.
Because this story takes place on a high-speed plot railroad, the Mule magically finds himself at this plot relevant location. He assists Isidro in fighting the pirates and we get more assume blood effects.
After some more poorly choreographed fighting we then see the Pirate Captain, everyone's favorite Berserk character and truly the best villain to end on.
And I think he looks worse here than when he got turned into tentacles in the manga.
He and Mule have their fight scene for a few seconds, than it's Isidro's time. They fight on the rowboats and during this fight we get to see the most realistic water even since the Silent Hill HD Collection.
We then get this animation:
Keep in mind that Isidro is supposed to be talking for this entire shot.
Anyway, Azan is completely removed so Puck knocks the guy into the water and then the kids escape. Somehow. This anime sucks.
Things once again progress exactly like in the manga, Mule and Isidro have their poorly animated fist fight and Sonia asks Schierke to come with them and Schierke declines to instead stay with the wonderful team of strangers that blend into the background due to the perspective of this anime. Sonia than gives her cryptic warning and Schierke sees the image of the city under attack, which once again has no context for anyone who didn't read the manga and thus is a terrible way to end this anime on.
Isidro apologizes to Schierke for knocking over her hat earlier and than they go back to the group. The final scene is the tavern scene and then out of nowhere the shitty 3D animation suddenly completely changes to 2D and gives you an idea of what this show might have looked like if it had even the barest amount of care and effort put into it. The credits role and we get this:
Which might be cliffhanger for a third season or might be a not-so-subtle way of telling the audience to buy the manga if they want to see what happens next. Hopefully the later.
nintendoman58
Member
I'm so glad I'm not a Berserk fan.
I'm not even saying this out of confirmation bias, I legit don't even want to read the Berserk manga.
Too extreme. Call me out on how shit my taste is, but I have limits on this kind of stuff.
I'm not even saying this out of confirmation bias, I legit don't even want to read the Berserk manga.
Too extreme. Call me out on how shit my taste is, but I have limits on this kind of stuff.
Huh, they've gotten pretty far. Good to know we will see Berserk finished in our life times.
Cornbread78
Member
Better get on that.. 7/1 is the earliest date I see on there...
I'm away from my computer Monday, but let me know if you need help with anything next week.
Also, Why did I not see this before? WTF....:
Skirt no Naka wa Kedamono Deshita.
it's ecchi too, so I can only imagine....
It's not particularly good if it looks like sewage.
I'm not at all convinced this is going to happen.
? Have mercy and expand on this.
Shouldn't have watched the manga promo. lol The anime teaser just doesn't compare.
Kado 11
Battle armor. This really turned to a shounen.
Virgin Soul 12
Such an one sided war. Even with the secret weapon, I have to wonder if Charioce is a good strategist.
Anyway, hopefully the second half of the series is better and less boring.
http://kotaku.com/gainax-loses-lawsuit-must-pay-hideaki-annos-studio-90-1796363814
Battle armor. This really turned to a shounen.
Virgin Soul 12
Such an one sided war. Even with the secret weapon, I have to wonder if Charioce is a good strategist.
Anyway, hopefully the second half of the series is better and less boring.
http://kotaku.com/gainax-loses-lawsuit-must-pay-hideaki-annos-studio-90-1796363814
Cornbread78
Member
Must have missed it during soccer season, lol.
5 min shorts, so it can't be that bad. I mean, they stopped airing that horny priest show after a few episodes, so maybe this one will share the same fate, lol.
Hey, maybe it's actually tastefully done with some ecchi? There must be hope, right?
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I mean it's no mystery that that the manga goes back on hiatus whenever the current anime cour ends and oddly comes back whenever the anime does as well.
MikeHattsu
Member
Transformers: The Last Knight
The 4th best live action Transformers movie ;p
The 4th best live action Transformers movie ;p
Transformers: The Last Knight
Pros:
Cons:
Pros:
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Anthony Hopkins bantering with his...
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snarky robot ninja butler
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bumblebee is a ww2 vet
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undead robot knight
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NEMESIS Prime
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Marky Mark treating Grimlock like he was a very bad dog
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the secret history of the transformers that somehow involves Harriet Tubman and the transformer watch that killed Hitler
Cons:
- Could've used another hour
- No Linkin Park for the ending monolgoue
- I only teared up once.
8 X 11 Printer Paper
Member
How much did Duckroll pay you two off!?
Large Professor
Member
Tsukigakirei 11
For the second season it would be more interesting (imho) if Kotarou fails his exam in the next episode, so that we can see how the couple deals with a long distance relationship. But that's probably not going to happen.
MikeHattsu
Member
Hey, I posted my Transformers 4 review here when that came out as well!
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=121766947
CheapJuice
Member
Berserk - 24
Let's put our dying last effort resources in creating a rare 2D scene, and roll the credits over it???
See you next time, Berserk.
Let's put our dying last effort resources in creating a rare 2D scene, and roll the credits over it???
See you next time, Berserk.
It's not like decent 2D animation would have actually saved Berserk. Sure, it would mean that the animation would no longer be the most obvious thing wrong with the show, but the horrible scrpit, directing, pacing, sound effects, and music choices, those were all there from the start. Decent animation would have just made how shit the rest of the anime is more obvious.
Those tomatoes better have giant ass profit margins then.
It's really only happened once since the anime is only two cour. I thought (was hoping) it was a coincidence.
TheGamingBox
Banned
finally they put the jojo bluray release on amazon.ca
cheaper than the amazon.com price too
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0725PBXB1/
cheaper than the amazon.com price too
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0725PBXB1/
Valdfellgar
Banned
Hit people with it.
Thanks for the notice! I wonder if that's a price error? I preordered it right away just in case it is.
TheGamingBox
Banned
no, anime on amazon.ca are usually lower than the msrp
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
ive come to the realization that this isnt an arc in virgin soul and this will be the entire show
It's not all that often these days that it's cheaper than its Amazon.com equivalent though, is it? Unless I misunderstood what you meant.
TheGamingBox
Banned
its cheaper because amazon.ca has a discount on it while amazon.com does not
And it skips to them already on the boat, so the entire season involves the pirates with some original filler thrown in.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Berserk goes on Hiatus the week HxH comes back
Its like poetry
Its like poetry
CheapJuice
Member
Bahamut Virgin - 12
I really enjoyed the indiana jones-esque escape sequence in the first half. Soundtrack was on point. I hope the Nina + Favaro combo will bring more moments like that, it's what I wanted this show to be.
This episode encapsulates the first season for me pretty well; starts as a fun adventure and then into epic battles I can't bring myself to care about.
I really enjoyed the indiana jones-esque escape sequence in the first half. Soundtrack was on point. I hope the Nina + Favaro combo will bring more moments like that, it's what I wanted this show to be.
This episode encapsulates the first season for me pretty well; starts as a fun adventure and then into epic battles I can't bring myself to care about.
petran79
Banned
I've read the manga and the new series is much more extreme and shocking
Yup....
Missing out.
Every month we gather and discuss whether it'll end before HxH and One Piece.
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