Square-Enix considering making FFXV an action RPG

I love how they almost didn't put a roman numeral after Final Fantasy 9 because they thought the direction the series was headed was too different than the previous couple games, yet have no problem throwing roman numerals on MMOs and now, potentially, an action RPG. Why not just call it Final Fantasy : -something-. Or....DON'T CALL IT FINAL FANTASY AT ALL!!!
 
KingJ2002 said:
true... honestly... just taking off the XIII will drive sales... let FFXIII X-2 be the end of that chapter and let Versus stand on it's own...

as a new entry in the FF franchise... it would sell a ton and give square-enix a head start on next gen rather than succumb to another huge dev cycle that XIII took. They could upgrade the graphics and fine tune it... turning it into a monster of a game that could release at the PS4 launch.

with all the rumors swirling around that this gen is coming to a close sooner rather than later... it's smarter for square-enix to re-brand this game as Final Fantasy XVI
XV you mean?
 
Don't they make so many damn action RPGs that it could actually be considered "new" to make a turn based RPG? Like one where you run around a world map and then the screen goes PSSSSSHHHH and cool music starts and then all the characters are fixed to one location until they choose an action?
 
XenoRaven said:
Don't they make so many damn action RPGs that it could actually be considered "new" to make a turn based RPG? Like one where you run around a world map and then the screen goes PSSSSSHHHH and cool music starts and then all the characters are fixed to one location until they choose an action?
That was Dragon Quest and then they had to make it a mumorpuger. :(
 
Laughing Banana said:
It doesn't matter if it turns into an action RPG... what matters most is they should hire someone competent to make a strong storyline and a great cast of characters.

Only way this could happen is if they make the next FF game an retrospective homage to the 80`s.
 
uncledonnie said:
Would gladly take a good action RPG over the mess that was XIII.

Yeah but to be fair as far as combat goes, I thought that XIII's combat was pretty good.

The things that sucked were linear progression both in the levels and character development, grindy weapon crafting, terrible dialogue and platitudes, and the overall style over substance feeling of the game.

If SE makes an action RPG with all of these issues you can count me out.
 
Kagari said:
I wasn't going to post this because I think the question itself is terrible... so here's my thoughts instead:

Asking about a game that's not even announced is fairly rude and shows you don't care about games the developers are actually working on. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and XIV relaunch haven't even happened yet, so if anything, these journalists need to stop prodding about things that don't even exist.

Yes, I realize the irony in that I myself have done interviews with the FF development staff, but I would never ask them something this dumb.

I agree that it's rude, but it should be the job of the companies to make games people care about.

Journalists should ask the hardest questions they can think of.
 
shuyin_ said:
This isn't about what Nomura considers his game to be. If he'd consider Crisis Core to be a main numbered title, would that make it a main FF?
Of course it is what the developer of the game considers it to be. He talks about Versus as a numbered FF and Square Enix is giving it the backing like it is one. It's in no way the "lesser" game of the two(/three) HD FNC games. Crisis Core was never considered to be a mainline release. It's just a prologue/side-story for FFVII, it isn't even FFVII-2 or anything.

It's the same with Versus, regardless of the fact that Versus is more ambitious game than Crisis Core. In the end, it's still a spinoff, while FF XV will be a main FF game.
I think the relationship between XIII, Versus and even Type-0 isn't that clear cut. They are all pretty much equal, they are all on the level of mainline releases, as far as importance goes. Crisis Core is a spinoff, Dirge of Cerberus is a spinoff, Dissidia is a spinoff. Versus isn't a spinoff. You could've named Type-0 FFXIV and Versus FFXV and they wouldn't really stand out as being lower tier products like Crisis Core and the like are (though, some would likely complain about the lack of turn-based battles).


IIRC, it was after the release, but does it really matter?
Of course it matters. If it was said before they got all the feedback from II, then it doesn't mean Nomura lied before, maybe he just thought they had made a game that all fans would enjoy so there wouldn't be a need for a more complete & polished Final Mix release (as in, they "fixed" whatever problems they had heard fans say the first game has, not guessing that they had perhaps taken these fixes too far).

You mean the contradiction between what he says and what is real isn't reason enough?
I dunno, neither of those cases are the like that I consider good enough to think that everything Nomura says from now to eternity to be something that needs to be taken with a grain of salt. If he says he's finished directing FFs after Versus and wants to focus on Kingdom Hearts and possible new IPs in the future, I tend to believe that's what he wants to and WILL do. I really don't see Square Enix objecting to this particular decision. It would be a whole different deal if Versus turned out to be a massive success while the rest of his projects were struggling to make profit.

I'm not saying he is a liar. Maybe it's just conjuncture, but he made quite a few statements (like the AC stuff and KH2 final mix +) that were proven to be false.
"Were proven to be false" or something just happened that made him change his mind? Maybe fans didn't like the news that not all of VII's cast would be in AC so they decided to throw them a little treat (and what we got in AC, when it comes to characters other than Cloud & Tifa, WAS a very minimal "treat", clearly just pasted on without much thought)

I guess what aggravates his statements is his certainty... that KH2 interview was along the lines of 'don't expect a final mix this time'. lol, yeah
"Don't expect" isn't really a final "it will never happen", more of a "we aren't planning one right now" one. The statement about Versus being his first & last does sound much more final than "don't expect me to direct another FF after Versus". It's more of a "I'm going to do this and that and those kinds of projects in the future and have no interest in directing another FF in the foreseeable future". Again, of course there is room & time for Nomura to change his mind, but I just personally wouldn't expect him to, at least not in the near future. At least I've gotten the impression that like he likes working on his own projects more and a big-ass numbered FF is just too much pressure to continue working on them for more than one game. He'd rather take a series he's created like Kingdom Hearts to new directions than mess with FF too much. That's why he considers Versus to be a one-off deal. This is the kind of FF he wants to see the light of day and after it he can be satisfied that he left a mark on the FF saga with a FF of his own and then continue building Kingdom Hearts & whatever else he wants to do.
 
Ferrio said:
Why the fuck not, i mean isn't like they haven't ruined it already.
Truer words seldom get spoken. Do whatever it takes to make FF the juggernaut it used to be. Between XIII's abysmal performance, XIV's botched launch and Versus' practical irrelevance after all these delays, the franchise hasn't held less weight in gaming consciousness since pre-VII.
 
Can they REALLY call what they've been doing turn based anymore anyways? They were already action RPG oriented like crazy. Its not like they've done one right since PS2 anyways so they may as well keep ignoring Mistwalker showing them how to do next Gen turn based RPG's correctly with Lost Odyssey.
 
Hopefully, just hopefully, Kitase has absolutely nothing to do with FFXV - and neither do Toriyama and Nomura. Itou and Yoshida are my dream pair for XV.


Now, about it being an ARPG, well I wouldn't mind at all, although I'd prefer a similar system to XII, but even a more real-time game would be great.
 
Kagari said:
I wasn't going to post this because I think the question itself is terrible... so here's my thoughts instead:

Asking about a game that's not even announced is fairly rude and shows you don't care about games the developers are actually working on. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and XIV relaunch haven't even happened yet, so if anything, these journalists need to stop prodding about things that don't even exist.

Yes, I realize the irony in that I myself have done interviews with the FF development staff, but I would never ask them something this dumb.

Um. A journalist is supposed to ask the questions, even they are rude. "Rude" questions effectively made sometimes shocking answers. A conservative, polite journalist is probably not a very good journalist.
 
I read that as Final Fantasy V, man I want a remake of that game and turning the game some kind of action RPG could be an interesting idea
 
Chuck said:
You just proved his point. All those games are garbage.
At least try to play the games you're criticizing before sprouting bullshit. :| The World Ends With You & Birth By Sleep are unarguably some of the most fun action RPGs ever (certainly the best action RPGs Square (Enix) has ever produced) and Type-0 has been getting some good impressions from people who've played the Japanese version. 3rd Birthday has its flaws but it's a decent action RPG with guns. KH3D seems to take the KH battlesystem seen in BBS to the next level, so it should be great too. They all prove that Square Enix is capable of making great action RPGs.
 
Kagari said:
I wasn't going to post this because I think the question itself is terrible... so here's my thoughts instead:

Asking about a game that's not even announced is fairly rude and shows you don't care about games the developers are actually working on. Final Fantasy Versus XIII and XIV relaunch haven't even happened yet, so if anything, these journalists need to stop prodding about things that don't even exist.

Yes, I realize the irony in that I myself have done interviews with the FF development staff, but I would never ask them something this dumb.

My only counterpoint to what you just said is... isn't a journalist supposed to poke and prod people they interview to get details and exclusive information? I mean they aren't going to say shit about VS13, and the only stuff they'll tell you about FF14 relaunch is what you already know.
 
dump Wada immediately, ceremoniously welcome Sakaguchi back to be a project development lead, relegate Toriyama (the writer/director, not the legendary character designer) to cell-phone projects, allow Kitase/Nojima to finally make some original IPs (which, apparently, they've wanted to do since the mid-90s) and double whatever they are paying Hamauzu for freelance work.

There's your blueprint, SE shareholders! :D
 
I really don't like action rpgs, well I liked Ys 7. But I don't expect Square to make a action rpg that is as responsive and reflex intensive as that game. So I rather they not do this.
 
As far as the topic goes, I'm for it. I like that they try different stuff with the gameplay and battle system. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but it's always something to anticipate.

You know, I don't understand why they didn't just call Type-0 FFXV. For Type-0, sure the PSP is dead outside Japan, but SE could have sold double or triple the amount of copies of what Type-0 sold right now. They basically gave it the budget of a mainline FF, but not the branding.

Versus should just be FFXV. XIII as a brand has been tainted by the FFXIII, and the only reason they're doing XIII-2 is to get more mileage out of the art assets. No one gives a fuck about FNC.
 
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