I've always though these looked pretty smart myself. The other however are totally garbage.
Where is that obama gif where he walks in in that Star Trek garb.
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Star Trek The Next Gen has some really weird stuff in it (rant)
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Where is that obama gif where he walks in in that Star Trek garb.
RoryDropkick
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I think you have it confused with the SNL parody " The Love Boat, The Next Generation"
https://vimeo.com/67326569
SlipperyFishes
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Wait until Riker is accused of rape and murder. If you think he's portrayed as a player that episode will change your mind.
GoutPatrol
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Most shows made during the same time period don't "hold up."
biggersmaller
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Yes - the interior of the ship looks like an office park dentist's office. The fashion looks like ass.
Everything else said is just wrong, but let's focus on your dislike of Riker. In reality he had sex with about a dozen women over 178 episodes across 7 years.
Everything else said is just wrong, but let's focus on your dislike of Riker. In reality he had sex with about a dozen women over 178 episodes across 7 years.
First of all: I really do think that the producers should not have put so much 90s Zeitgeist into it. It feels strange and in some cases absolutly inappropriate.
it's one of the huge downers for me.
yes, I am talking about the crazy choice of costumes and ridiculous hairstyles.
I (maybe) can accept the fact that the human race might have some dropback to a 90s fashion style in the future but why does basicly every other "human-like" alien in the universe dresses like a combination of MC Hammer and Mick Jagger?
really?
REALLY?
I DO love the normal uniforms as they look timeless and classy (same goes to some of the staff like Guinan) but wtf is up with some special events uniforms?
This seems so weird to me because the rest of the scenery, designs and decoration is so good and timeless.
The USS Enterprise D itself is IMO still the most beautiful and sleekest in all Star Trek.
The same goes to it's main bridge with the awe-inspiring and gorgeous wooden(such a great idea) commando panel.
The other unsettling (to me at least) stuff:
.) Troy being raped by an alien, giving birth to a superfast aging child and everyone acting like it's the most normal thing ever.
.) The horror/splatter and supernatural elements in some episodes which doesn't 'fit' the series at all. like that "manifested evil" black blob which,exploding heads, alien parasites ripping throught people's chests,werewolves and "The Fly" like insect mutations. what the hell?kills Tasha
.) That crazy ass "Caligula" planet Rubicun III with all the half naked men and women, Oily "nuru" massages and basicly sex everywhere. which brings me to my next point:
.) The gigolo that is Will Ryker throughout the entire series. I understand that he is suppose to be the womanizer in the series but, jesus christ, he has sexual intercourse with pretty much half of the universe. which brings me to my next point and the biggest problem I have with Star Trek Next Gen:
.) The series is 95% of the time a soap opera/telenovela based in space with extremely rare occurances of actual space interaction scenes. I understand that a sci fi series has a limited budget compared to hollywood blockbusters but I wished they would have used that one million $ per episode for more space action instead of stupid hairstyles, crazy costumes and endless dialoge scenes in front of reused/recycled movie backgrounds (holodeck etc) and in enterprise's corridors.
yes, the USS Enterprise is a spaceship for exploration first and foremost but, boy, I wish Picard was more of a wildcat personality and phaser/photon-bomb the shit out other enemy spaceships instead of yadda yadda diplomacy yadda yadda.
I miss the "badassery",if you know what I mean.
Sometimes I dream about a Star Trek series actually based entirely on the federation being at war with tons of space battles and a mercyless (let me even say ruthless) captain.
like the in first Borg encounter episode
(but, of course, they had to fuck everything up with that stupid ass teeny feeling Borg "Hugh" in a later episode)
thoughts?
What's wrong with the special event uniforms. UNless you're really uncertain about your gender and can't deal with the fact that some star fleet officers might feel more comfortable in that uniform.
Also about your "at war" quote:
There are movies for you, they are the Star Trek Reboot movies. Mostly made for special effects adoring people and basically little to do with actual Star Trek outside of the names.
Star Trek often showed you the horrors of war, man I loved that DS:9 episode in which Quark explains to his nephew that Humans aren't as bubbly and nice as they make themselves apear to be... as they sit behind the lines.. waiting for the next Jem'Hadar attack.
Furthermore the headbands are silly, I agree, very 70's in approach (the series is from the 80s, not the 90's. DS:9 was 90's) to scifi (watch some 70's scifi regarding dancing and sports and you'll see similar outfits
). But the Yoga/working out outfits... were okay. And the partial nudity of the alien species? Well... consider this: WHy do we cover breasts if not for our culture? So why wouldn't an alien species choose to have different moral constructs regarding clothing.Now a valid point about Star Trek:TNG to make: Why do all Alien Species look so human, I know there is an episode explaining that, but SOOO MANY look even more human than Vulcans do! And that episode only explains why Vulcans, Humans, Klingons, Romulans, tech have similar look (2 legs, same kind of skin, etc.). But almost all aliens look superficially completely human (Saving on make up cost).
iamaustrian
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I like riker. his temperament is a good antipol to picard but he being the don juan of the stars makes me cringe.
like every female life form falls for him,it seems. troi even a couple of times. he also goes full attack on females. like 'lets raise an eyebrow,give her the look and kiss her immediately'.
hell,didn't he even sleep with a genderless alien in an episode?
I was really really surprised that he didn't even try on the 'perfect mate'.almost shocking.even picard was close to giving up
he has the best way to "sit down" though. classic
funkystudent
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I remember that one episode where Q is made human and they dress him in this silly tight one piece and the entire episode you basically just try and avoid eye contact with the bulge
Fallout-NL
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iamaustrian
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haha yeah, it reminded me of homer avoiding looking at flanders ass in the supertight skiing suit
lol
only if you are 1.93m
otherwise you will constantly hit your balls at the backrest
ThLunarian
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I think he preferred to sit that way because of a back injury that made it painful to sit down normally. They had to rework scenes sometimes because of it
I like you.
iamaustrian
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I didn't know that but i always thought that he had a posture (while standing) in the series which looks like backpain
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i also found this interesting
he's right. I never realized it like the sitdown move
HAHAHA. i literally laughed out loud with this. so true!
this mans penis has enjoyed more alien pussy than any other sci fi character i'm aware of, and the actor, Jonathan Frakes, always has this priceless look on his face every time he has a taste of the punani. lol.
it's not 'primarily' a soap opera. it's a portrayal of how the producers feel humanoid people (tabloid level subject matter included) would socially interact in the future; from a 90's POV of course.
there are plenty of space interaction scenes in the series. plenty. i feel you may be downplaying them because you feel the amount of 'interpersonal scenarios' happen too often for your liking, maybe?
this show, hell the entire series, is meant to be a projection of what humanoid life may possibly be like, provided we don't blow ourselves up first.
the ideas, themes, and subject matter explored through all 7 seasons (well, mainly through the 3rd, 4th, & 5th seasons anyway. any other season doesn't really stack up as much) are a combination of fresh idealism vs. old world conservatism -and while the series overall takes a 'side' on this, it does not shortchange these contradicting ideals at all. the main way the series does this is of course, through humanoid interaction. surely there is no better way for the majority of viewers to relate to it?
with utmost respect, is it possible you maybe don't 'GET' star trek?
i don't mean this as an insult. just an observation.
of course that doesn't mean you can't enjoy its sometimes hilariously bad acting, overarching plot points, set pieces, characters & themes etc - by 'don't get', i mean your reasons for enjoying the show perhaps don't line up to the intention of the series.
it's all good. people can like things for completely different reasons.
Star trek isn't your typical space opera. actually i would argue that it isn't one at all. Star trek disguises itself as a space opera, a notion spurred along largely due to the backdrop it's set in; it may have all the ingredients to be classified as one, but make no mistake it isn't one.
it's a philosophical exploration of life & consciousness. it's an idealists "thought-stream" of existence; in all it's forms, in the distant future. memorable characters like Jean-Luc Picard & the 'Q' intelligence are perfect examples of this, and i'm glad you picked out Picard, because he's a poster boy for exactly what make star trek different from something like battlestar galactica or star wars; movies that while containing elements of philosophy, actually focus mores on exciting action scenes, warfare, melodrama, and a continuously moving-along plot --often times at the actual expense of the philosophy it establishes.
in star trek TNG, the philosophy is the main star of the show.
it's intention is to present the viewer with strange & esoteric themes and concepts that you would have never really thought of.
your example of wanting to see picard blow stuff up more as opposed to thinking things through and contemplating, on a 'spiritual' level, the lesson to be learnt as he usually does, is emblematic of the difference between what you want to watch for entertainment, vs. what the producers hope you think about with the various philosophical questions it poses to the viewer. straight up, the show WANTS you to think about these things. it wants you to question what you currently believe. many times it seeks to awaken the 'aristotle', the 'socrates', and the 'confucious' in you, lol. and while it can become quite preachy in some parts, it does leave an impact.
take a look at the below scene & the subject matter it touches.
it's not some mind boggling revelation, mind you. but it does encourage the viewer to self reflect on the subject touched on.
even though this was shot in the early 90's, listen to their brief convo and think of how relevant it is today.
keep in mind this is just one scene. you should watch the entire episode, if you haven't seen it already. it's fantastic.
Picard & Worf from the Episode "The Drummhead"
personally, i would take the pondering of picard & worf here, over a typical enterprise space battle any day.
I've always though these looked pretty smart myself. The other however are totally garbage.
i liked these formal uniforms myself
I've always though these looked pretty smart myself. The other however are totally garbage.
The thing I noticed on rewatch is someone in the casting department had a very specific look for what their male guest stars look like. Prominent foreheads and piercing eyes seemed to top the list.
Bonus points: they all turned out "evil" and had a thing for Troi. Troi and Crusher are definitely the weakest characters for most of the show's run but they get a lot more stuff to do by the series' end, which is nice.
Mechanized
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It's no coincidence most of those screens are from Season 1. There's some really dated shit in that, but season 2 onward is much better.
That's what you're meant to think.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
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Season 1 is fine. All that 'bad' stuff is fine. Weird is good and TNG is the best show of all time.
Crusher even got to have sex her dead grandmothers ghost boyfriend that lived in a haunted candle in season 6 or 7.
So much of this is what I love about TNG that I thought was missing in other shows.
This too.
This too.
Just a guess here but that sounds like one of the eps she wrote too, lol.
AnotherNils
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Thank you! At least criticize the right decade
Stiflers Mom
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Ziltoidia 9
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Honestly this is worst Wesley.
All Wesley is worst Wesley.Honestly this is worst Wesley.
Nope. According to Wikipedia that EP was,
Teleplay by Brannon Braga
Story by Jeri Taylor
Directed by Jonathan Frakes
WyndhamPrice
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I think the Star Trek you're asking for is Deep Space Nine.
TNG was pretty much unfiltered Roddenberry for the first couple of seasons.
TNG was pretty much unfiltered Roddenberry for the first couple of seasons.
PushTheButtonMax
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How did I not know this exists? Thank you.
I'll still defend "Sub Rosa" as really not that bad in the grand spectrum of bad Trek. It's fun and hokey, which elevates it above a lot of the terrible pomposity in the worst episodes.
("Fun and hokey" describes a lot of S7 TNG, really.)
ilikesanta
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The Borg have Stopped winning. The Borg use to always win, now they lose. Sad.
Frozenprince
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I feel like you just wanting Picard to be Kirk 2.0 means you missed a lot of the point of the series.
Armoured Priest
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Ron Jones, the composer for the first couple seasons of TNG is well regarded...and I still think he's underrated.
More recently, Jones has been the composer for Family Guy and American Dad! (McFarland is a well know Trek fan... I imagine that had something to do with Seth getting Ron Jones for his shows).
One thing that impresses me (being a musician/composer myself): Jones scored both Next Gen, and DuckTales during the same time period. DuckTales had a pretty awesome score as well.
Dumb/hilarious stuff wasn't confined to the first few seasons: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1325746
Season 7 had some real winners.
Season 7 had some real winners.
The TNG dress uniforms were fine. They were carried over into Voyager and earlier Deep Space Nine episodes (before they switched to the First Contact uniforms).
Personally, I thought the First Contact white dress uniforms were somehow worse even though they were aiming to be consistent with the standard uniforms. Everyone looked like space caterers.
Personally, I thought the First Contact white dress uniforms were somehow worse even though they were aiming to be consistent with the standard uniforms. Everyone looked like space caterers.
Which is amazing. Who could object?
I like to think that Starfleet and the diplomatic corps overhauled the dress uniforms for propaganda and recruitment purposes during the Dominion War.
Moose Biscuits
It would be extreamly painful...
All this and no mention of the episode with the colony of Space Irish, with their crates of farm animals and lively fiddle music and the bit where the Space Irish trying to set up a still in the cargo hold of the Enterprise and then Worf gives the leader of the Space Irish some Klingon beer and he makes a funny face
one of my favourite episodes
Teren_Kanan
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Jesus Christ no. The only thing TNG Picard has in common with First Contact Picard is the actor playing them. Portraying Picard as some vengeance seeking-loses his temper action is a betrayal of the entire character. So bad. Movie Picard is just the worst.
The Episode "Inner Light" is a simply amazing g piece of television.
Henchmen21
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What episode is this?And that's after she got into Fed style clothing. Here's what she wore before
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