They only did it a couple of times. It's blue on R2 focused episodes and red on Maul episodes.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (and Rebels!) Appreciation Thread
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They only did it a couple of times. It's blue on R2 focused episodes and red on Maul episodes.
I just saw all of this today for the first time, it was great
RIP Hardcase.The villain was suuuch an asshole, geez.
crackhead_bob
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I have a question about Rebels. How far into the timeline has Dave Filoni and others expressed that they plan on exploring? Could it end up going into post Return of the Jedi?
I don't think they have ever said. I get the impression that it is not guaranteed that this series is even going to last all that much longer. Apparently the ratings aren't that great and the toys don't sell unfortunately.
Anything with Sabine or Ahsoka sells out like crazy, everything else not so much.
I expect two more seasons.
It is sad about ratings because it really is some of the best Star Wars content out there and that has been out there for many years.
I will say this about the ratings , Season 2 was down but it was steady without a big drop from what I understand.
crackhead_bob
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If the show ends up not being renewed for a fourth season, I hope they give it a definitive ending. How invested is Disney in the series? Perhaps they could move it to Netflix if it underperforms.
Also, what are the chances that now that the show has 2 seasons behind it and with a stable of supporting characters that we'll start seeing multi episode arcs?
Also, what are the chances that now that the show has 2 seasons behind it and with a stable of supporting characters that we'll start seeing multi episode arcs?
The republican prison and court room in the final Ahsoka arc had the most OT-esque design of the Prequel Era. Really loved it. Its maybe the most imperial looking arc in the whol series.
And what a great "final" arc. Really a logic conclusion how Anakin grew more and more frustrated with the order. Loved so much to see how he slipped to the dark side all the time over the show and how far he went dark side while he went after Ventress to help Ahsoka. This really made Revenge of the Sith so much better for me.
And Mace Windu is an asshole. My god, how I hated him. Dude deserved to get zapped by Sidious.
Even while I knew who the betrayer was the second I could recognize the gender of the attacker.
I hope the last season now pays a little bit more attention to the Deathwatch, the last Maul arc ended to open for my taste.
And what a great "final" arc. Really a logic conclusion how Anakin grew more and more frustrated with the order. Loved so much to see how he slipped to the dark side all the time over the show and how far he went dark side while he went after Ventress to help Ahsoka. This really made Revenge of the Sith so much better for me.
And Mace Windu is an asshole. My god, how I hated him. Dude deserved to get zapped by Sidious.
Even while I knew who the betrayer was the second I could recognize the gender of the attacker.
I hope the last season now pays a little bit more attention to the Deathwatch, the last Maul arc ended to open for my taste.
They had plans but the show was cancelled before they got that far. There were some comics that concluded the story.
Can I read into these plan somewhere? I also heard that they originally wanted to go all up to Revenge of the Sith and had plans laid out and everything and I would be dying to read this
The plan was to have episodes leading right up to ROTS, with one of the final arcs involving Anakin, Obi-Wan and Ahsoka together for one last time. They would be discussing how to track down Maul when Anakin and Obi-Wan are suddenly called back to Coruscant to rescue the Chancellor (gives more meaning to the line "Sith lords are our specialty"). It would have then been left up to Rex and Ahsoka. The remaining episodes would take place at the same time as ROTS as well as directly after.
Filoni and Hidalgo talked about a lot of their plans at one of the Celebrations a couple years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yKM6RExLlI
This sounds so amazing and I an so sad that We wont be able to see that ever...
Thanks! Will watch it tomorrow
TDLink
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The next part of the Deathwatch/Maul arc was made into a comic called Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir. It's 4 issues. Each issue is basically an unmade Clone Wars episode. I highly recommend it as it's basically part of the series. It's too bad they couldn't make the actual episodes of course. And while it is a continuation, it unfortunately still isn't a conclusion either.
Mace Windu has the dubious honor of being the only Star Wars character who became less likeable thanks to Clone Wars.
Yeah, Ive read but its really not providing and ending.
And I really hated that Jabba was under Mauls controll. Jabba should be no-ones employee.
Have now also seen the arc with the clone who activated Order 66 mistakenly... Felt very similar to the Ahsoka Arc somehow.
BKatastrophe
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I'm trying to counter, but I can't. No lies here.
The series just gets more somber as time goes on.
That's because Maul's story isn't over yet.
Anyway, make sure after you're done to watch the two partially completed arcs, Crystal Crisis on Utapau and The Bad Batch, both of which are available on starwars.com They were fully voice acted but only got through the animatics phase. However, they are both considered canon since they were released. Also, the novel Dark Disciple covers eight episodes of Asajj Ventress's story line that never got finished, and the Maul comic Son of Dathomir takes place about halfway through it.
In regards to what happens with Mandalore (maybe don't read this until after the show is over, large spoilers for something that never happens on the show but was going to happen and is still canon), we know from released concept art that
Ahsoka somehow gets involved during the Siege of Mandalore and helps the Mandalorians overthrow the government and instates Bo-Katan as provisional leader. Mandalore becomes a protectorate of the Republic, which is why there is an Imperial Academy there during Rebels.
Ahsoka was going to team up with Anakin and Obi-Wan to hunt down Maul but they got called away to rescue Palpatine, which is obviously the beginning of RotS, so most likely what happened here is that Maul goes back to Mandalore to try to conquer it one more time, Ahsoka catches wind of it, tries to work things out with Anakin, it falls apart and they never get to properly say goodbye. He and Obi-Wan go off to the Battle of Coruscant while she and Rex go off to the Siege of Mandalore. That's where the show would've left their relationship.
Finally finished all of clone wars.
To note, I initially began watching Rebels first.
So clone wars closed up gaps in my knowledge about Ashoka and the Clones, but I had thought it would give more decisive explanations about their fates prior to Episode III. However, I soon discovered the series was cancelled.
From the beginning, I was hooked. Sure the Jar-Jar Binks stories weren't good barring the last one in Season VI, but overall the quality only increased. Characters were fleshed out, and I felt Anakin was finally the Jedi I was looking for. The clones finally made a significant impact on me, though I thought Commander Cody might be shown more.
Even some of the Padme episodes were good. I chuckled at the concept of the dark lord of the sith manipulating banks to get... lower interest loans for the separatists.
To note, I initially began watching Rebels first.
So clone wars closed up gaps in my knowledge about Ashoka and the Clones, but I had thought it would give more decisive explanations about their fates prior to Episode III. However, I soon discovered the series was cancelled.
From the beginning, I was hooked. Sure the Jar-Jar Binks stories weren't good barring the last one in Season VI, but overall the quality only increased. Characters were fleshed out, and I felt Anakin was finally the Jedi I was looking for. The clones finally made a significant impact on me, though I thought Commander Cody might be shown more.
Even some of the Padme episodes were good. I chuckled at the concept of the dark lord of the sith manipulating banks to get... lower interest loans for the separatists.
Well I think the ultimate goal was to get control of the banks so he could finance the Death Star
I never thought about that angle, though I recognized consolidating the banks was perhaps one of the largest steps in creating the Galactic Empire.
Actually makes quite a bit of sense.
I just caught up on Rebels. Watched the first 5 episodes back when they aired, didn't really care for it, and gave up. But I heard that they started bringing back Clone Wars characters like Ahsoka, so I decided to catch up on it.
Just to get this out of the way: It's still not as good Clone Wars. I really enjoyed the structure of Clone Wars more, how it would follow these characters for a 3-4 episode arc, then jump across the galaxy and follow these other characters for another 3-4 episode arc, and so on. Rebels has a much more traditional structure, just following the same crew the whole time. It's also not nearly as dark and brutal as Clone Wars. I still don't know how they got away with the shit they did in Clone Wars, with so many on screen deaths and impalements and even decapitations. But Rebels very obviously goes out of its way to make sure all the violence happens just off screen.
That said, Rebels did get better after the first few episodes that I originally saw. The characters have become more likable, though I still don't really LOVE anyone (except Chopper, Chopper's the best). Ezra has yet to make the transition from bratty kid into total badass that Ahsoka did in Clone Wars. And while, I am enjoying the show, I still find that my favorite parts are the ones that bring back Clone Wars characters. So... I dunno, hopefully the show can mature into something I love all on its own, rather than something that makes me say, "Oh yes, this is going to be so much better than the rest of the show!" when a Clone Wars character gets involved.
Spoilers for the Season 2 finale:
Just to get this out of the way: It's still not as good Clone Wars. I really enjoyed the structure of Clone Wars more, how it would follow these characters for a 3-4 episode arc, then jump across the galaxy and follow these other characters for another 3-4 episode arc, and so on. Rebels has a much more traditional structure, just following the same crew the whole time. It's also not nearly as dark and brutal as Clone Wars. I still don't know how they got away with the shit they did in Clone Wars, with so many on screen deaths and impalements and even decapitations. But Rebels very obviously goes out of its way to make sure all the violence happens just off screen.
That said, Rebels did get better after the first few episodes that I originally saw. The characters have become more likable, though I still don't really LOVE anyone (except Chopper, Chopper's the best). Ezra has yet to make the transition from bratty kid into total badass that Ahsoka did in Clone Wars. And while, I am enjoying the show, I still find that my favorite parts are the ones that bring back Clone Wars characters. So... I dunno, hopefully the show can mature into something I love all on its own, rather than something that makes me say, "Oh yes, this is going to be so much better than the rest of the show!" when a Clone Wars character gets involved.
Spoilers for the Season 2 finale:
The better not have fucking killed off Ahsoka off screen. That would be so much bullshit.
Did you watch all the way to the very end?
You can thank GL for that. Filoni originally wanted TCW to be a show about the crew of a freighter and their adventures in the middle of the Clone Wars, and George said "Nah we're gonna do an anthology show itself!" You can see how he kept wanting to do this show and ended up getting his chance in Rebels. If George was still in charge it probably would've been all about Leia, Ahsoka, and Bail or something instead.
Cartoon Network is much more relaxed about violence than Disney. In one of the Rebels Recons, Filoni even mentioned how they probably can't go much more violent due to Disney XD's standards.
We don't really know. Filoni has said though that he is looking to find a way in other media (book, comic, whatever) to show what happened once the room was closed off.
Yes?
All I saw was Vader walking out of the ruins of the temple. It didn't show anything about Ahsoka.
Oh. I wasn't sure what that was supposed to be.
peppermints
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As someone that wants to watch Clone Wars but doesn't have time to binge through it all, is the episode guide in the OP considered the best one? I've seen a few others around and they're all slightly different.
You really should watch the whole series but if you absolutely can't, go by the guide in the OP. I would say all of the "Honorable Mentions" are must watch though.
I agree
TDLink
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Yes the OP guide is the best one, but consider Honorable Mention episodes as much watches. So basically watch everything that list puts as required or honorable mention. You won't regret it.
peppermints
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^ Thanks guys! I'll start with the required + honorable mention ones. I'm sure I'll watch all of them at some point, but just want o get my feet wet with the best of the best first.
Loved Rebels, so I'm sure this will be even better.
Loved Rebels, so I'm sure this will be even better.
Planning to pick up the Season 1-5 boxset this week for TCW, and I'll grab the The Lost Missions (Season 6) at a later time.
I've heard that Season 6 was meant to have been a lot longer. Would you guys say the show still has a satisfying conclusion, or does it feel like it just stops dead?
I've heard that Season 6 was meant to have been a lot longer. Would you guys say the show still has a satisfying conclusion, or does it feel like it just stops dead?
Forerunner
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I didn't watch season six, but I felt the conclusion at the end of five was great.
It really showed the distrust Anakin started to have for the Jedi Council, and pretty much why he became what he was.
TheLetdown
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Has this been posted yet?
https://geekdad.com/2016/07/star-wars-rebels-4/
Fantastic news for those who, like me, were worried that some of the best Star Wars stories in the Expanded Universe would either be ignored or largely retconned in the Disney shift.
https://geekdad.com/2016/07/star-wars-rebels-4/
Fantastic news for those who, like me, were worried that some of the best Star Wars stories in the Expanded Universe would either be ignored or largely retconned in the Disney shift.
I really enjoyed The Clone Wars series minus the episodes that focused on R2/3P0/JarJar/Padme. Thankfully there were only a handful.
As for Rebels, I only like the episodes that have a tie to Clone Wars or the OT. But as the show gets closer to episode IV, it should get pretty interesting with less filler-type episodes.
As for Rebels, I only like the episodes that have a tie to Clone Wars or the OT. But as the show gets closer to episode IV, it should get pretty interesting with less filler-type episodes.
It actually has two good conclusions. The end of Season 5 was an emotional end for a particular character and the final scene is one of the best scenes in all of Star Wars in any medium.
The end of Season 6 ended up serving as a great end to the prequel era as a whole while looking forward to what was to come in ROTS and the OT.
For a show that was abruptly cancelled the way it was, it manages to end really well.
EDIT: I highly recommend you take the time to watch the Behind the Scenes videos included in the box set. This was a talented and passionate group of guys and gals and it shows.
Cheers for the response guys.
Ordered the 1-5 boxset earlier today, but it's down as dispatching within 10 to 13 days, so now I play the waiting game. It was a really good price though.
Think I'll check this out. Thanks for the recommendation.
Ordered the 1-5 boxset earlier today, but it's down as dispatching within 10 to 13 days, so now I play the waiting game. It was a really good price though.
Think I'll check this out. Thanks for the recommendation.
peppermints
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Okay, I watched a few of the episodes from that recommended viewing list. Think I'm hooked.
The animation quality is lightyears ahead of Rebels, it's nuts.
The animation quality is lightyears ahead of Rebels, it's nuts.
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder
Have it bookmarked for when we FINALLY find our S3 set sigh...
Clone Wars is absolutely gorgeous. It only gets better too in the later seasons.
I just started my watch of The Clone Wars / Rebels. I finished S02E16 as the guide suggest. I really like what I'm seeing and can see myself staying on for the long haul. That said, I had no idea who Admiral Trench were before this but I suppose I'm not supposed to have any background of him other than what was deeded to me in that episode. I also don't exactly know where Christophsis is, who General Organa is (probably the guy Anakin meets at the end) and who the Separatist Alliance is and consist of. I guess I'll learn much more the further I go.
I'm also surprised to see clone troopers working for Obi Wan and Anakin, which is probably a sign that I should rematch Attack of the Clones because I don't remember much of it. Last year I did a rewatch of Episode IV, V, VI and I, so I might as well watch II. and I see The Clone Wars is between II and III so I'll end it with Revenge of the Sith when I'm finished with this show.
Is Rebels after Episode III and before IV?
I'm also surprised to see clone troopers working for Obi Wan and Anakin, which is probably a sign that I should rematch Attack of the Clones because I don't remember much of it. Last year I did a rewatch of Episode IV, V, VI and I, so I might as well watch II. and I see The Clone Wars is between II and III so I'll end it with Revenge of the Sith when I'm finished with this show.
Is Rebels after Episode III and before IV?
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