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[Charles Foster Kane]

I just hate the changes with a passion. For me they ruin what would otherwise be a good time. I can't deal with them taking me out of the movie.

 

[Asami208]

The thing about the prequels—and a big reason for why they're pretty terrible in the first place—is that so little new information is actually revealed. All the Clone Wars stuff exists in its own little vacuum and has basically no influence on Anakin's fall. It's six hours of dull politiking where nothing happens to no result. Really, the only part of the prequels that needs to be retconned or redone at all is the 10-15 minutes of plot we get with Anakin chatting with Palpatine because everything else can—and will—be ignored.

The problem, at least to me, was that Lucas clearly saw how popular Vader was and became obsessed with him. He kept beefing up Vader's importance until we get to the PT, and he's now space-Jesus whom the entire Galaxy revolves around. He took it so far as to say that "the saga is actually Anakin's story," which is a blatant retcon since the OT was clearly LUKE'S story.

And a lot of the potentially interesting stuff took a backseat to the "saga" of whiny douchebag emo kid. You want to see the Old Republic and how it fell, well too bad because that's afterthought. You want to see the rise of Palpatine, ditto. You want to learn more about the Jedi in their heyday, well tough because most of them are background filler, and the one's that aren't are still bland and underdeveloped. Even the stuff that should have been emotional, like the Jedi being exterminated, wasn't because we didn't spend enough time with them and the actually "purge" is brushed over in one quick montage.

And the worst part is, for all of his obsessing over Anakin, Lucas couldn't even get him right. He in no way resembles the man that Obi Wan remembered with such fond nostalgia in the OT (Obi Wan barely seemed to tolerate his presence most of the time). He was whiny, annoying, unlikeable, and his "fall" happens ludicrously fast and for incredibly flimsy reasons. And he doesn't even do anything "badass" once he turns. The Clones kill off the actual Jedi, he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

George, if you're going to just gloss over all of the potentially interesting stuff that people WANTED to see, in favor of focusing on ONE guy, then you had better make damn well sure that said guy is interesting in his own right.

 

[teiresias]

I prefer YubNub. I actually think it's more memorable particularly when the orchestration kicks in as it build to the finale. I'm willing to about this may be because I saw the film with that ending a billion times through my childhood though.

With the ghost, it just doesn't sit well with me, particularly since he didn't change Yoda or Obi-Wan (if I'm remembering right).

 

[chicko1983]

The problem, at least to me, was that Lucas clearly saw how popular Vader was and became obsessed with him. He kept beefing up Vader's importance until we get to the PT, and he's now space-Jesus whom the entire Galaxy revolves around. He took it so far as to say that "the saga is actually Anakin's story," which is a blatant retcon since the OT was clearly LUKE'S story.

And a lot of the potentially interesting stuff took a backseat to the "saga" of whiny douchebag emo kid. You want to see the Old Republic and how it fell, well too bad because that's afterthought. You want to see the rise of Palpatine, ditto. You want to learn more about the Jedi in their heyday, well tough because most of them are background filler, and the one's that aren't are still bland and underdeveloped. Even the stuff that should have been emotional, like the Jedi being exterminated, wasn't because we didn't spend enough time with them and the actually "purge" is brushed over in one quick montage.

And the worst part is, for all of his obsessing over Anakin, Lucas couldn't even get him right. He in no way resembles the man that Obi Wan remembered with such fond nostalgia in the OT (Obi Wan barely seemed to tolerate his presence most of the time). He was whiny, annoying, unlikeable, and his "fall" happens ludicrously fast and for incredibly flimsy reasons. And he doesn't even do anything "badass" once he turns. The Clones kill off the actual Jedi, he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

George, if you're going to just gloss over all of the potentially interesting stuff that people WANTED to see, in favor of focusing on ONE guy, then you had better make damn well sure that said guy is interesting in his own right.

I agree with everything in this post.

 

[MattyG]

The problem, at least to me, was that Lucas clearly saw how popular Vader was and became obsessed with him. He kept beefing up Vader's importance until we get to the PT, and he's now space-Jesus whom the entire Galaxy revolves around. He took it so far as to say that "the saga is actually Anakin's story," which is a blatant retcon since the OT was clearly LUKE'S story.

And a lot of the potentially interesting stuff took a backseat to the "saga" of whiny douchebag emo kid. You want to see the Old Republic and how it fell, well too bad because that's afterthought. You want to see the rise of Palpatine, ditto. You want to learn more about the Jedi in their heyday, well tough because most of them are background filler, and the one's that aren't are still bland and underdeveloped. Even the stuff that should have been emotional, like the Jedi being exterminated, wasn't because we didn't spend enough time with them and the actually "purge" is brushed over in one quick montage.

And the worst part is, for all of his obsessing over Anakin, Lucas couldn't even get him right. He in no way resembles the man that Obi Wan remembered with such fond nostalgia in the OT (Obi Wan barely seemed to tolerate his presence most of the time). He was whiny, annoying, unlikeable, and his "fall" happens ludicrously fast and for incredibly flimsy reasons. And he doesn't even do anything "badass" once he turns. The Clones kill off the actual Jedi, he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

George, if you're going to just gloss over all of the potentially interesting stuff that people WANTED to see, in favor of focusing on ONE guy, then you had better make damn well sure that said guy is interesting in his own right.

 

[Mrs. Manky]

About Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw at the end, do you guys just hate it cause it's Christensen or as a concept (he went back to how he was before)?

Personally, I think the scene is terrible because of the smug face he gives, it's just terrible. As a concept, I don't disagree with what Lucas thinks but they could have done a much better job adding him in. I'd take the Shaw scene over what we have currently just because of this.

I don't like the replacement because Sebastian Shaw put in the work, and to have Hayden in there as the Force Ghost instead of him feels like erasing some of his career from existence.

 

[gutter_trash]

About Hayden Christensen replacing Sebastian Shaw at the end, do you guys just hate it cause it's Christensen or as a concept (he went back to how he was before)?

Personally, I think the scene is terrible because of the smug face he gives, it's just terrible. As a concept, I don't disagree with what Lucas thinks but they could have done a much better job adding him in. I'd take the Shaw scene over what we have currently just because of this.

Also legit question: Do some people actually prefer Yub Nub over the Victory Celebration song? If so why? After rewatching the scene I feel the Victory Celebration song fits so well and hits the mark for the conclusion.

I hate it because it is another Special Edition addage or change that was unnesserary.

I'm one of those original cut purists who hate the Special Editions

 

[StopMakingSense]

he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

Here's your father's light saber Luke, he killed SO MANY children with it back in the day, hoo boy.

 

[Blader]

Victory Celebration is much better than Yub Nub. Aside from just being a more aurally pleasing song, it better reflects the bigger feeling of triumph in the movie's ending. Yub Nub feels so small scale and such a lame note to close out the trilogy on; Victory Celebration feels so much more appropriate, and more on par with the grand closing scores of ANH and Empire.

But the best part about Victory Celebration is the way it cues up with how Luke takes one last look at the Anakin, Yoda, and Obi-Wan ghosts. I can't articulate why, but somehow something about the way song quiets down as Luke leans against the tree and then swells up as Anakin joins the trio, and Luke smiles then walks away... I don't know, it just underscores the emotion so much better than yub nub.

Also, Carrie Fisher gives off a very loud and awkwardly placed laugh *just* as the last shot cuts to the credits. Victory Celebration mostly drowns it out, but in the original cut with Yub Nub, Carrie Fisher's loud laugh is the very last thing you hear in the OT, which is a less than epic way for the movie to finish.

Wait isn't the 97 version where it all went to shit? Isn't the 85 version the desired ones?

Victory Celebration wasn't added til '97. I don't mind the other changes in that version of the movie that much. I didn't get annoyed with Lucas' changes to Jedi until the '04 SE, when he replaced Shaw with Hayden.

 

[Mr Cola]

I do love how our only indication of closeness between Anakin and Obi wan is two scenes, one at the start of episode 2 where they talk about adventures we never see and again later where they talk about adventures we never see. Top writing there.

 

[Asami208]

Honestly going by the PT, Obi Wan should have said something along the lines of "Darth Vader, who was a whiny douche and always kind of evil, let the Clones hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He just killed the little kiddies, he was kind of a pussy in that way."

Honestly, TCW TV show-Anakin is MUCH closer to how Obi Wan describes him in ANH. One of the MANY things that that show did better than the PT.

 

[Caode]

I do love how our only indication of closeness between Anakin and Obi wan is two scenes, one at the start of episode 2 where they talk about adventures we never see and again later where they talk about adventures we never see. Top writing there.

This usually sums up their relationship. I never seen any hint of some great bond or friendship between the two characters... until I watched The Clone Wars recently, it gives a far better insight to the two characters. In the prequels it just seems as if Obi-Wan can't stand Anakin, although, who could blame him?

 

[CloudyTuba]

Honestly going by the PT, Obi Wan should have said something along the lines of "Darth Vader, who was a whiny douche and always kind of evil, let the Clones hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He just killed the little kiddies, he was kind of a pussy in that way."

Honestly, TCW TV show-Anakin is MUCH closer to how Obi Wan describes him in ANH. One of the MANY things that that show did better than the PT.

Agreed on all accounts TCW Anakin is the definitive "official" version.

 

[injurai]

Victory Celebration wasn't added til '97. I don't mind the other changes in that version of the movie that much. I didn't get annoyed with Lucas' changes to Jedi until the '04 SE, when he replaced Shaw with Hayden.

But the 97 version had that hackey cgi Jabba and the cgi when first entering Mos Eisley. Wasn't Jedi Rock also introduced in this version? Those changes are bad enough imo.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Waa Chataa Booley-Raa?

 

[Jacksinthe]

The problem, at least to me, was that Lucas clearly saw how popular Vader was and became obsessed with him. He kept beefing up Vader's importance until we get to the PT, and he's now space-Jesus whom the entire Galaxy revolves around. He took it so far as to say that "the saga is actually Anakin's story," which is a blatant retcon since the OT was clearly LUKE'S story.

And a lot of the potentially interesting stuff took a backseat to the "saga" of whiny douchebag emo kid. You want to see the Old Republic and how it fell, well too bad because that's afterthought. You want to see the rise of Palpatine, ditto. You want to learn more about the Jedi in their heyday, well tough because most of them are background filler, and the one's that aren't are still bland and underdeveloped. Even the stuff that should have been emotional, like the Jedi being exterminated, wasn't because we didn't spend enough time with them and the actually "purge" is brushed over in one quick montage.

And the worst part is, for all of his obsessing over Anakin, Lucas couldn't even get him right. He in no way resembles the man that Obi Wan remembered with such fond nostalgia in the OT (Obi Wan barely seemed to tolerate his presence most of the time). He was whiny, annoying, unlikeable, and his "fall" happens ludicrously fast and for incredibly flimsy reasons. And he doesn't even do anything "badass" once he turns. The Clones kill off the actual Jedi, he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

George, if you're going to just gloss over all of the potentially interesting stuff that people WANTED to see, in favor of focusing on ONE guy, then you had better make damn well sure that said guy is interesting in his own right.

The force is strong with this one.

 

[JDHarbs]

This usually sums up their relationship. I never seen any hint of some great bond or friendship between the two characters... until I watched The Clone Wars recently, it gives a far better insight to the two characters. In the prequels it just seems as if Obi-Wan can't stand Anakin, although, who could blame him?

I only ever got that feeling from Episode 2. Their relationship felt like it took a complete 180 in Episode III after Anakin had matured. All of the bonding they had done was during their time together in the Clone Wars so we never got to see any of it on screen since Episode 3 skipped all of that.

 

[injurai]

Waa Chataa Booley-Raa?

 

[brandonh83]

People like Yub Nub more? Oh my, I didn't think that was even a thing.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

People like Yub Nub more? Oh my, I didn't think that was even a thing.

I'm all about Yub Nub.

I even closed out my Geek Remixed Trilogy with it.

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

The problem, at least to me, was that Lucas clearly saw how popular Vader was and became obsessed with him. He kept beefing up Vader's importance until we get to the PT, and he's now space-Jesus whom the entire Galaxy revolves around. He took it so far as to say that "the saga is actually Anakin's story," which is a blatant retcon since the OT was clearly LUKE'S story.

And a lot of the potentially interesting stuff took a backseat to the "saga" of whiny douchebag emo kid. You want to see the Old Republic and how it fell, well too bad because that's afterthought. You want to see the rise of Palpatine, ditto. You want to learn more about the Jedi in their heyday, well tough because most of them are background filler, and the one's that aren't are still bland and underdeveloped. Even the stuff that should have been emotional, like the Jedi being exterminated, wasn't because we didn't spend enough time with them and the actually "purge" is brushed over in one quick montage.

And the worst part is, for all of his obsessing over Anakin, Lucas couldn't even get him right. He in no way resembles the man that Obi Wan remembered with such fond nostalgia in the OT (Obi Wan barely seemed to tolerate his presence most of the time). He was whiny, annoying, unlikeable, and his "fall" happens ludicrously fast and for incredibly flimsy reasons. And he doesn't even do anything "badass" once he turns. The Clones kill off the actual Jedi, he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

George, if you're going to just gloss over all of the potentially interesting stuff that people WANTED to see, in favor of focusing on ONE guy, then you had better make damn well sure that said guy is interesting in his own right.

I enjoy the PT... a lot. I don't count Star Wars as individual films; but as a saga as a whole. When people ask me "what's your favorite move," I always reply with "The Matrix, followed by Star Wars." If they ask for more detail, I'm just talking about the first Matrix film; but am referring to Star Wars as a whole, episodes 1-6.

And yet I agree with everything in this post.

 

[injurai]

People like Yub Nub more? Oh my, I didn't think that was even a thing.

Well that is just a naive underestimate on what Star Wars fans can form opinions on. Especially regarding something that was changed.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

I too prefer Yub Nub.

 

[MegalonJJ]

I know people went nuts for old Han Solo, but for me it's all about Chewie!

VC >>> Yub Nub. (Not that yub nub is bad, just VC is way more fitting and majestic and in line with ANH and ESB endings).

 

[MattyG]

I've always liked Victory Celebration more, but Yub Nub's cool too. I'm fine with either, really.

Edit: You guys are starting to make me question which one I like more. Oh man, my opinion on ROTS already changed this week, is this gonna change too?!

 

[HanShotFirst]

I enjoy the PT... a lot. I don't count Star Wars as individual films; but as a saga as a whole. When people ask me "what's your favorite move," I always reply with "The Matrix, followed by Star Wars." If they ask for more detail, I'm just talking about the first Matrix film; but am referring to Star Wars as a whole, episodes 1-6.

And yet I agree with everything in this post.

Similarly, I normally dont disagree with criticism of the prequels but I still really enjoyed them.

 

[Rydeen]

But the best part about Victory Celebration is the way it cues up with how Luke takes one last look at the Anakin, Yoda, and Obi-Wan ghosts. I can't articulate why, but somehow something about the way song quiets down as Luke leans against the tree and then swells up as Anakin joins the trio, and Luke smiles then walks away... I don't know, it just underscores the emotion so much better than yub nub.

Yeah, the ethereal sounding male choir that cue up as Anakin's spirit appears next to Obi Wan and Yoda is really powerful and is the main reason I prefer Victory Celebration over Yub Nub. It always gets a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye, and is a great cue to end the trilogy on.

 

[Prompto]

Victory Celebration is much better than Yub Nub. Aside from just being a more aurally pleasing song, it better reflects the bigger feeling of triumph in the movie's ending. Yub Nub feels so small scale and such a lame note to close out the trilogy on; Victory Celebration feels so much more appropriate, and more on par with the grand closing scores of ANH and Empire.

But the best part about Victory Celebration is the way it cues up with how Luke takes one last look at the Anakin, Yoda, and Obi-Wan ghosts. I can't articulate why, but somehow something about the way song quiets down as Luke leans against the tree and then swells up as Anakin joins the trio, and Luke smiles then walks away... I don't know, it just underscores the emotion so much better than yub nub.

Also, Carrie Fisher gives off a very loud and awkwardly placed laugh *just* as the last shot cuts to the credits. Victory Celebration mostly drowns it out, but in the original cut with Yub Nub, Carrie Fisher's loud laugh is the very last thing you hear in the OT, which is a less than epic way for the movie to finish.

100% agree. Yub Nub just isn't all that good.

 

[gutter_trash]

I too prefer Yub Nub.

Yub Nub = true ROTJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs

 

[Spiritreaver]

Yub Nub = true ROTJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs

<3

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I prefer Yub Nub because I'm not the biggest fan of Jedi and the Zamfir-esque thing Williams is doing doesn't seem to be a very fitting musical cue for a movie as light as Jedi was. Williams is going for some sort of dreamlike, melodic cue to underscore a meaningful, emotional wrap-up.

But Jedi doesn't really have a meaningful, emotional wrap-up at that party. That already happened at the Funeral Pyre - which he DID score wonderfully. Yub Nub works way better for me as the closing celebration music to a movie that basically drew up the blueprint for the tone and pacing of the prequels, and as party music for a bunch of victorious teddy bears.

Victory celebration doesn't fit. Nobody onscreen at that moment would be dancing the way they're dancing to that John Tesh shit Williams is playing. But I buy the little fuzzballs shaking their ass to Yub Nub.

Celebrate the looooooooove

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Victory celebration doesn't fit. Nobody onscreen at that moment would be dancing the way they're dancing to that John Tesh shit Williams is playing. But I buy the little fuzzballs shaking their ass to Yub Nub.

Celebrate the looooooooove

Basically how I feel about it. You can buy they're dancing to Yub Nub. It fits.

 

[Deadly]

Victory Celebration is much better than Yub Nub. Aside from just being a more aurally pleasing song, it better reflects the bigger feeling of triumph in the movie's ending. Yub Nub feels so small scale and such a lame note to close out the trilogy on; Victory Celebration feels so much more appropriate, and more on par with the grand closing scores of ANH and Empire.

But the best part about Victory Celebration is the way it cues up with how Luke takes one last look at the Anakin, Yoda, and Obi-Wan ghosts. I can't articulate why, but somehow something about the way song quiets down as Luke leans against the tree and then swells up as Anakin joins the trio, and Luke smiles then walks away... I don't know, it just underscores the emotion so much better than yub nub.

Yeah, the ethereal sounding male choir that cue up as Anakin's spirit appears next to Obi Wan and Yoda is really powerful and is the main reason I prefer Victory Celebration over Yub Nub. It always gets a lump in my throat and a tear in my eye, and is a great cue to end the trilogy on.

Yep on the spot from the scene where Luke comes back and then sees the trios ghosts.

I understand the small celebration argument for Yub Nub. Yes it fits more into the context of the characters but for us the viewer Victory Celebration seemed more appropriate.

What are the odds Disney goes and makes their own edition in the future? hahahah

 

[No Love]

Now I am glad It devolved into this because I didn't know about Williams son working on Yub Nub which lead me to googling him and found out Williams son is the lead singer for 80s pop band Toto?!?

Holy fucking shit are you serious? That is AWESOME.

 

[Blader]

But the 97 version had that hackey cgi Jabba and the cgi when first entering Mos Eisley. Wasn't Jedi Rock also introduced in this version? Those changes are bad enough imo.

I was just talking about Jedi, and yeah that version does have Jedi Rock in it, but I've never hated it. It's annoying for sure, but I don't dislike it enough to want to lose Victory Celebration in the process.

Basically how I feel about it. You can buy they're dancing to Yub Nub. It fits.

I can buy the Ewoks are dancing to Yub Nub, but that's not really what I'm looking for. Victory Celebration is *my* catharsis for the end of Jedi and the whole trilogy; it's my emotional release for the grand finale, it pulls at my heartstrings and makes me think "yep, this is the end." Yub Nub makes more sense as an Ewok song, but frankly I'm more interested in what sounds good and majestic and final than what sounds like it fits the Ewok music scene.

I will say, in defense of the Yub Nub ending, I love that wink Luke gives the Force ghosts (and the audience) just before he turns and walks off with Leia.

 

[Recovering_Jedi]

If Lucas had used an aged Christensen and actually shot footage specifically for that insert it would probably have been acceptable. Sebastian Shaw looks even older than Alec Guiness so I understand why he wanted to change it.

Sadly George couldn't be bothered so he just scrounged some costume test footage from ROTS and chucked it in there (despite Christensen doing an evil stare at the end), then made up some bullshit explanation. Not only is it lazy but it shows how little George actually cares about the movie, because it ruins the moment. But in his deranged mind he has 'fixed' the problem of how old Anakin looked, and he didn't even have to shoot any new footage! Masterfully done!

It makes sense that Shaw could look older than Guiness. Anakin was aged beyond his years from his injuries and being confined to the suit. Its not uncommon for a younger person to look older than a substantially older one, because of extraneous circumstances and natural ones, as well.

As for the edit of putting Haydan's face on in for Sebastian's, Its just idiotic. Why would his spirit look like his younger self? His younger self was the one that went over to the dark side, so it makes even less sense for it to be Christensen. Plus, Vader was redeemed at the end of ROTJ, so it makes sense for "older Anakin" to be present with Obi-Wan and Yoda.

 

[liliththepale]

Yub Nub = true ROTJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np6vAuS0KNs

This is the first time I've ever seen Yub Nub (I'm 23). God, that's revolting.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

This is the first time I've ever seen Yub Nub (I'm 23). God, that's revolting.

Not as revolting as I find Hayden there or hearing a faint Jar Jar cheer.

 

[jett]

Yub Nub is awful. The only good change Lucas made, pre-shoving Christensen in there, of course.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Also, reading this Hollywood Reporter article about Josh Trank having to bail on his Celebration panel, and they appear to confirm that Harrison Ford was supposed to show up with all the other old-school cast members at the Force Awakens thing on Thursday.

 

[liliththepale]

Not as revolting as I find Hayden there or hearing a faint Jar Jar cheer.

Right, it's quite a lot more revolting. I wish they had shopped in Ewen McGregor over McGuinness too.

 

[Meowster]

Yub Nub is awful lol. Georgie made the right call there.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Not as revolting as I find Hayden there or hearing a faint Jar Jar cheer.

Return of the Jedi isn't a good film if you're looking for catharsis of any kind, honestly. There's about a half hour of if that works that way, but because of the rest of the movie, it feels disjointed from the film its in.

It's funny now, that in order to get the "more serious" music that's supposed to bring the audience towards a wistful, melodic, pan-flutey end, you have to put up with those stupid celebrations, gungans yelling, and Hayden Christensen "hay gurrrrl"-ing up the very end.

Might as well just stick with Yub Nub, which is more appropriate for the scene, and the film itself. With bonus grinning old man.

Celebrate the love, man. Celebrate the love.

 

[CreepingFear]

I am Pro-Yub Nub. It fits. It's corny, but it's pure Return of the Jedi.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Return of the Jedi isn't a good film if you're looking for catharsis of any kind, honestly. There's about a half hour of if that works that way, but because of the rest of the movie, it feels disjointed from the film its in.

It's funny now, that in order to get the "more serious" music that's supposed to bring the audience towards a wistful, melodic, pan-flutey end, you have to put up with those stupid celebrations, gungans yelling, and Hayden Christensen "hay gurrrrl"-ing up the very end.

Might as well just stick with Yub Nub, which is more appropriate for the scene, and the film itself.

Celebrate the love, man. Celebrate the love.

Agreed. Celebrate the love indeed

 

[Grover Cleveland]

Yeah, Victory Celebration was the right call on that one.

I won't argue in favor of any of the other bullshit that GL loaded into that scene (including the Anakin swap) but Yub Nub is really fucking awful, I'm sorry.

 

[bengraven]

Oh we're doing this? Okay...

Stuff I liked:

- inserting the deleted scenes - I liked the Hutt scene and Biggs, also the extended scenes like the Wampa and new Rancor scenes
- rotj's new ending - haters gonna hate, but it's fucking amazing and the best addition
- background stuff - like the orange ships flying around in the floating city and actual open windows - I didn't mind the stormtroopers and banthas and such in New Hope either
- sarlaac - it's more menacing now...though it does lose a bit of ominous feeling

Didn't like

- young Anakin
- entering mos eisley - needs to be redone bad. it's obvious this was the first thing done but they just didn't have the CGI up to par yet. Everything looks cartoony and old.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Yub Nub for life.

 

[brandonh83]

I'm all about Yub Nub.

I even closed out my Geek Remixed Trilogy with it.

I don't really dislike it but the new music was more emotional so it worked more for me. I think it's a beautiful piece.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

The problem, at least to me, was that Lucas clearly saw how popular Vader was and became obsessed with him. He kept beefing up Vader's importance until we get to the PT, and he's now space-Jesus whom the entire Galaxy revolves around. He took it so far as to say that "the saga is actually Anakin's story," which is a blatant retcon since the OT was clearly LUKE'S story.

And a lot of the potentially interesting stuff took a backseat to the "saga" of whiny douchebag emo kid. You want to see the Old Republic and how it fell, well too bad because that's afterthought. You want to see the rise of Palpatine, ditto. You want to learn more about the Jedi in their heyday, well tough because most of them are background filler, and the one's that aren't are still bland and underdeveloped. Even the stuff that should have been emotional, like the Jedi being exterminated, wasn't because we didn't spend enough time with them and the actually "purge" is brushed over in one quick montage.

And the worst part is, for all of his obsessing over Anakin, Lucas couldn't even get him right. He in no way resembles the man that Obi Wan remembered with such fond nostalgia in the OT (Obi Wan barely seemed to tolerate his presence most of the time). He was whiny, annoying, unlikeable, and his "fall" happens ludicrously fast and for incredibly flimsy reasons. And he doesn't even do anything "badass" once he turns. The Clones kill off the actual Jedi, he just murders some little kids and then some defenseless politicians. Real epic Dark Lord of the Sith there hey Georgie.

George, if you're going to just gloss over all of the potentially interesting stuff that people WANTED to see, in favor of focusing on ONE guy, then you had better make damn well sure that said guy is interesting in his own right.

It's like you eavesdropped on every conversation my friends and I have had about the PT.