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Star Wars: The Old Republic F2Play launching Nov. 15th
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Is two quickbars enough for most classes when going from 1 to 50?
Been a while since I have played but how much of a disadvantage will 2 quickbars be? Also have they reduced the amount of XP to level at any point since launch?
chickdigger802
Banned
I recall guardians require many quickbars.
BattleMonkey
Member
Many classes can get by with two bars, lot of abilities are not important and can be left off in the ability menu. Inquisitors and Consulars I think would be the hardest to do with just two bars though. The classes that use stealth have a third cover bar that pops up that holds a bunch of extra abilities so they have breathing room with that extra bar and those abilities that are exclusive to it that wont take up your normal two bars.
Theres many abilities that you don't really click on in combat that you can leave off the quickbars such as stance changes, quick travel, mount summoning, the various passive abilities... so one can leave them in the ability menu since you only click on them once in a while.
The classes are functional with only two but a few might have to sacrifice a couple abilities they dont use often to fit it all in.... buying an extra bar is like $2.50 or something?
HarryDemeanor
Member
Might be enough for some. When I played I used two bars and had a third available for buffs, medpacs, quick travel, etc. This was as an Imperial Agent and Sith Juggernaut during leveling.
Even though some classes may get by with two quickbars it's still a basic UI feature that should never be restricted.
I don't think they altered the amount of XP required for each level. At least not since launch. I don't know about 1.5 though.
Out of the classes I've played, you could get away with two leveling up on shadow/assassin, sage/sorceror, operative/scoundrel (as heals, no clue on DPS).
As someone above said, guardian/juggernaut not really doable with only two bars IMO. Maybe if only for leveling, but if you plan on going anywhere past that then you're gonna need more space.
And Krogan no there has been no reduction in the amount of experience to level. No need to really, it's not that bad at all compared to some MMO's. It's not LOLworthy like WoW is currently, but it's decently quick (and I hate leveling with a passion).
BattleMonkey
Member
No, though you level quick, the game only really slows down when you get to the 40's in that final stretch which can be a pain.
They added legacy xp boosts though that increase you XP gain that you purchase in game using credits depending on your legacy level, or you can but these permanent boosts from the cash shop now. They are also going to sell general XP boosters in the cash shop for pretty cheap I guess if you want to just push through the single player portion of the game for relatively cheap.
The UI? Agreed. EA.
You played through the most stale story in the game
I salute you.
Smuggler and Imperial Agent are where it's at! Jedi Knight is as close to KotOR as I have experienced so far.
Imperial Agent is like a blend of Bond and a really good episode of 24, with a bit of Memento haha.
Smuggler delivers what you would want to have in Han Solo-esque story.
Yeah, you need at least 3 honestly. For example, this is my Sentinel's setup.
I could easily save some room by removing one of my 2 huttball passing buttons, also removing 1 of 2 adrenal buttons, hiding my run toggle, hiding my form, putting my mount, quick travel, and useless skills away.
Anyways, 2 should be good enough in most cases to go all the way to 50. Though, like everyone else has said, it's a shitty thing to put behind a paywall.
I could easily save some room by removing one of my 2 huttball passing buttons, also removing 1 of 2 adrenal buttons, hiding my run toggle, hiding my form, putting my mount, quick travel, and useless skills away.
Anyways, 2 should be good enough in most cases to go all the way to 50. Though, like everyone else has said, it's a shitty thing to put behind a paywall.
alone to play the awesome BG´s in swtor i will reinstall it.
many flaws but never had more fun in BG´s
I hope they are still good. How many new BG´s are beside the 3 from the Start? Are the new BG´s as good as the old BGs?
There's one newer one since the launch, Novare Coast and another new warzone coming in the next big patch. They are still amazingly fun, pvp is pretty much all I do
With the new super servers there are some super intense games and rivalries. We have a facebook group for pvp'ers on my server (Prophecy of the Five) and it's hilarious the amount of insanity that goes on even in there :lolfluffydelusions
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I may give it a go to try bounty hunter. I have a lvl 60 sith inq already.
HarryDemeanor
Member
They added one more Warzone in 1.2 called Novare Coast. I thought it was pretty fun when I tried it. It's an attack and defend map like Alderaan: Civil War.alone to play the awesome BG´s in swtor i will reinstall it.
many flaws but never had more fun in BG´s
I hope they are still good. How many new BG´s are beside the 3 from the Start? Are the new BG´s as good as the old BGs?
http://www.swtor.com/info/media/trailers/warzone-novare-coast
In a patch after 1.5 they'll be adding in a new warzone called Ancient Hypergates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5F4eWaknXM
There's one newer one since the launch, Novare Coast and another new warzone coming in the next big patch. They are still amazingly fun, pvp is pretty much all I do
sounds great
BG´s really was awesome in swtor, illum on the other side was the worse pvp i have ever seen. Is Illum still in the game or maybe fixed in sth. good?
Mhh must see how it works with the new server System, i was on a RP-PvP Server before the Super Server started. Now i need to play on a normal pvp server? :/
sounds great
BG´s really was awesome in swtor, illum on the other side was the worse pvp i have ever seen. Is Illum still in the game or maybe fixed in sth. good?
Mhh must see how it works with the new server System, i was on a RP-PvP Server before the Super Server started. Now i need to play on a normal pvp server? :/
Ilum has been put on the back burner for the time being. There is going to be a world event there sometime in January to commemorate the craziness that went on there last January with 1.2. They have, however, optimized it extremely well. Had a massive war there and it ran smooth as a baby's arse. You can still earn valor points for kills, and there are people still fighting there and socializing between factions. Gone is the Ilum slideshow!
Well, Ilum is still in the game, but the world pvp section is no longer in use. They got rid of the Ilum pvp weekly's/daily's. That said, my server(Red Eclipse) has organised some world pvp events on Ilum, they usually end up with the server dying mind.sounds great
BG´s really was awesome in swtor, illum on the other side was the worse pvp i have ever seen. Is Illum still in the game or maybe fixed in sth. good?
Mhh must see how it works with the new server System, i was on a RP-PvP Server before the Super Server started. Now i need to play on a normal pvp server? :/
When we did an Ilum event about 3 or 4 weeks back we had a load of issues. Half of my pvp guild had crappy fps, and to top it off, the server just died due to how many people were there, was like 30 seconds lag spikes.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
every class does, and it pisses me off.
Its one of the many things I always loved about guild wars. downplaying the stupid interface and upping the actual visual gameplay.
I just looked at all the legacy skills you can unlock and holy shit. you have an obscene amount of skills at the screen at once.
alone to play the awesome BG´s in swtor i will reinstall it.
many flaws but never had more fun in BG´s
I hope they are still good. How many new BG´s are beside the 3 from the Start? Are the new BG´s as good as the old BGs?
Here's a video I made for Novare Coast. It goes over what that Warzone is about.
http://youtu.be/uwzl2bBTzeo
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Truly they wanted the game to fail all along.
Yes. Just stay away from Jedi Consular and you should be golden.
notworksafe
Member
Nice. In a few days I'll log back on to finish my Bounty Hunter's story (quit at Hoth) and then never play again.
Liquid_Bike
Member
The game is pretty fun as long as you don't take endgame seriously. I'm looking forward to finishing my class story at least.
Guild wars 2 is a Zerg fest though. I think swtor pvp is far better.
BattleMonkey
Member
sounds great
BG´s really was awesome in swtor, illum on the other side was the worse pvp i have ever seen. Is Illum still in the game or maybe fixed in sth. good?
Mhh must see how it works with the new server System, i was on a RP-PvP Server before the Super Server started. Now i need to play on a normal pvp server? :/
Illum is supposed to come back with some new event around January, it seems they are going to try and redo it as a mix of pve and pvp where players fight over things instead of straight up battleground.
The new Warzone Novarre Coast is real good and in about 6 weeks after the f2p launch the 5th warzone is going to be added to the game as it's part of the next content update.
Synth_floyd
Banned
This looks like an F2P mess. All sorts of wonky restrictions and a market where you can buy all sorts of lame customization stuff.
I played League of Legends for a bit. It's a good game but because it's F2P they have to make money by selling in-game currency and to motivate people to buy in-game currency they have to have a million and one ways to customize your character (get a rune that adds +0.1% to damage!), buy characters, buy portraits, blah blah blah.
I played League of Legends for a bit. It's a good game but because it's F2P they have to make money by selling in-game currency and to motivate people to buy in-game currency they have to have a million and one ways to customize your character (get a rune that adds +0.1% to damage!), buy characters, buy portraits, blah blah blah.
Alex
Member
LoL has a good model for a general F2P game, but a lot of people dislike it under it's genre. Personally, I think it's fine myself, but I'm fairly casual with any MOBA.
As for this, I may go back and dink around a bit, finish up a character or so. SWTOR had a lot of good content in it and a lot of great little quirks, it just shouldn't have been an MMO, not under it's actual design, it's just a bloated, empty, uneven mess in a lot of spots.
It's depressing because as a well arranged single player or co-op game this thing would have been remembered so, so well.
As for this, I may go back and dink around a bit, finish up a character or so. SWTOR had a lot of good content in it and a lot of great little quirks, it just shouldn't have been an MMO, not under it's actual design, it's just a bloated, empty, uneven mess in a lot of spots.
It's depressing because as a well arranged single player or co-op game this thing would have been remembered so, so well.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Speculator
BioWare Austin
GJ on the thread.
(Imperial Agent is my favorite story as well)
(Imperial Agent is my favorite story as well)
Vigilant Walrus
Member
Imperial Agent story better than KOTOR 1? Wat???? its really nice for an MMO. Prop the best MMO story ever told. but KOTOR 1 was a really cool memorable game.
Real war is a zerg fest too. I dont see the problem. sPvP instead for maximum impact.
Real war is a zerg fest too. I dont see the problem. sPvP instead for maximum impact.
-bakalhau-
Member
What? They restricted quick bars? Talk about a new low in restricting players... Wow. Mindblowing stuff. Seriously, I'm shocked.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Not just story. Its better in every way. There is not one thing that KotOR1 does better.
Yes. You can now go directly from your ship to orbital stations and then directly to a planet. Or from a planet directly to your ship. No more Airlock traveling unless you want to.
Don't forget you can mount in the airlock/orbital too.
It's also nice if you're running dailies. When you click the ship to leave the area you can go directly to the other daily areas.
I used to dread dailies with my sub-par computer and having to do all that loading. It's so streamlined now. It's amazing compared to what it was.
Is there a full list of restrictions for free players?
I remember hearing about a few things :
- Can't equip "Purple" gear.
- Reduced XP rate gain.
- 5 "fields" revival. Basically, after 5 deaths you get revived at a medical station somewhere on the map and you have to run all the way back to your corpse. That's going to seriously annoy me.
- Quadrupled the wait time on fast travel. You ain't going anywhere buddy.
- Can't do any of the raids(operations).
Any answers to those?
I remember hearing about a few things :
- Can't equip "Purple" gear.
- Reduced XP rate gain.
- 5 "fields" revival. Basically, after 5 deaths you get revived at a medical station somewhere on the map and you have to run all the way back to your corpse. That's going to seriously annoy me.
- Quadrupled the wait time on fast travel. You ain't going anywhere buddy.
- Can't do any of the raids(operations).
Any answers to those?
chickdigger802
Banned
It's in the OP and posted earlier in the thread.
- Yes to Free to play players, unless they purchase a license. Previous Subscribers can equip any gear they already own (bound) going into F2play but cannot use new purps unless they purchase a license for a few bucks.
- Yes to this one, but Bonus XP packs can also be obtained via the Cartel Market or the GTN.
- Yes and no, You don't corpse run in this game, but you can also pick up an unlock if you prefer.
- 2 hr cooldown on Quick Travel, but you can unlock it as well.
- You can purchase week long Operations passes significantly cheaper than the 15$ month price point.
You can also buy this stuff off the GTN with In-game credits. Basically pay how you want.
Like Operations but not anything else? You can pay specifically for that part of the game. Rather save up your credits to buy a pass off the GTN than spend real money? You can do that.
Alex
Member
I don't think this is a good counter argument for not finding a game fun.
BattleMonkey
Member
Most purple gear of importance is endgame, for f2p players, this won't matter or hinder leveling..
There is no corpse runs in TOR
Quick travel is just a teleport on your current planet you can use once every half hour. Its a convenience thing,
Yea only can raid if you buy passes or sub
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Its true that combat in TOR is your typical MMO combat but even that is light years beyond the combat in the original game. The first games combat is simplified to the extreme. You click on an enemy and you either shoot or run to them with a melee weapon. Both of these methods of attack have basically three skills to use no matter what class or build you are.. a powerful attack (Power Attack/Power Blast) or a rapid attack (Flurry/Rapid Shot) or a critical attack (Critical Attack/Sniper Shot). Thats basically it for the combat Feats.
The Force powers are varied enough in KotOR to be decent but theres not a lot to them. Theres no real interplay between powers. Lightside there is heal, stuns, damage droid, and buffs. Darkside is drain to heal, stuns, damage, and buffs.
My combat experience in 95% of KotOR is highlight enemy, click Master Flurry x3, and keep queuing Master Flurry. It basically looks like this except i used some Force Powers here and there. Not what i would call exciting.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
So, this sounds like he's answering this question, but he doesn't come right out and say races specifically. This still remains my stumbling block for playing this again, and while I have been reassured time and time by other players, I have yet to have seen an official response stating simply and frankly "yes, Preferred status players can play their existing characters regardless of race."
Their F2P model is a recipe for continued disaster, but I've ragged on it so much at this point that I'll refrain and not shit up this thread.