No, I'm saying you can use upgrade cards that come in Rebel expansions (like Push the Limit, which comes with the A-Wing) on Imperial ships. (You cannot use Rebel ships in an Imperial squadron.)
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Star Wars: X-Wing Miniatures Game | The Official Thread
- Thread starter MisterAnderson
- Start date
No, I'm saying you can use upgrade cards that come in Rebel expansions (like Push the Limit, which comes with the A-Wing) on Imperial ships. (You cannot use Rebel ships in an Imperial squadron.)
One Foul Note
Member
You can't cross faction any ships in this game (well technically Scum do use Rebel and Imperial ships but they have different pilots unique to their faction).
The reason why it is useful to own every ship in the game is many come with unique upgrade cards which can be useful for different ships. For example, for a long time the Imperial Shuttle came with an upgrade called Advanced Sensors. This upgrade is pretty damn good, especially on the B-wing so many Rebel players were buying the Shuttle just for that upgrade. Luckily that card now also comes in the E-wing expansion and FFG are generally better at giving each ship its appropriate upgrades so there is far less of instances where Rebels players are forced to buy Imperial ships and vice versa. Although it still is a thing, I ran a Decimator with Experimental Interface on my tournament I mentioned earlier and I would have had to buy the Rebel Outrider ship for that upgrade although luckily I managed to borrow a copy from a friend for the day.
Raven77
Member
Ahh gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. I guess now I just need to make sure I'm good with going Rebel. I would prefer Imperial but I think a few people i'm going to be playing with are already going Imperial. I'm sure we could just fight each other but it would be more fun if it was opposing factions.
One Foul Note
Member
That's a tough situation, if you are a fan of the Imperial ship design I can't really help, but if you like their high maneuverability/low health playstyle then you might want to look into Scum. I think the Scum faction play closer to Imperial then Rebels do. The Scyk and StarViper play nor unlike the Tie Fighter and Interceptor respectively and the Imperial and Scum Firesprays are essentially the same ship (although in my opinion, Scum have far superior versions).
Icefire1424
Member
Good Lord...I'm so jealous right now.
Icefire1424
Member
Just a heads up, CSI doing a Presidents Day sale, both the VT-49 Decimator and YT-2400 are on sale for $19.99 and $14.99, respectively.
Decimator:
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/204447
YT-2400
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/204446
Decimator:
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/204447
YT-2400
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/204446
Thanks for the heads up! Decided to take the plunge with this and just bought the Starter Set, Imperial Aces, YT-2400 and a Y-wing. That should get me enough figures to play each side, I believe.
MisterAnderson
Member
Just another heads up, there's an awesome set of colored templates this guy is producing for this kickstarter that is already super successful:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/586885235/dynamic-colored-x-wing-attack-wing-template-sets#
I'm going to pick me up the Emperor's package. Look at all the stretch goal bonuses! That's a shit ton of stuff.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/586885235/dynamic-colored-x-wing-attack-wing-template-sets#
I'm going to pick me up the Emperor's package. Look at all the stretch goal bonuses! That's a shit ton of stuff.
wookieofdoom
Member
Epic fight!!!
Me (rebellion)
VS
Buddy (empire)
Setup
The forces begin to engage:
The corvette lays waste to the decimator and shuttle. Biggs continues to live and protect the b-wings:
After this round chewie and biggs go down, the firespray goes down as did the other shuttle:
My friend went on to make a mistake with whisper putting her in the cross fire of all my ships and became space debris. My friend conceded after that.
Me (rebellion)
VS
Buddy (empire)
Setup
The forces begin to engage:
The corvette lays waste to the decimator and shuttle. Biggs continues to live and protect the b-wings:
After this round chewie and biggs go down, the firespray goes down as did the other shuttle:
My friend went on to make a mistake with whisper putting her in the cross fire of all my ships and became space debris. My friend conceded after that.
One Foul Note
Member
Mad respect for your lego shuttles. I didn't even notice them while I was looking at the far shots and only the close ups revealed their blocky nature.
wookieofdoom
Member
Yeah, my buddy made a few of them. Even gave some away as prize support.
MisterAnderson
Member
That epic battle looks awesome. I can't wait to try doing it sometime, but I still need to get my hands on the Tantive IV!
I added your post to the OP, wookieofdoom. Thanks for sharing
I added your post to the OP, wookieofdoom. Thanks for sharing
Yup - love reading those after-action reports. (speaking of which, wrote one for the Trek variant).
What's the best price for the vinyl backgrounds these days? I'm not seeing any 2m x 1m sets going for less than £40.
What's the best price for the vinyl backgrounds these days? I'm not seeing any 2m x 1m sets going for less than £40.
wookieofdoom
Member
That epic battle looks awesome. I can't wait to try doing it sometime, but I still need to get my hands on the Tantive IV!
I added your post to the OP, wookieofdoom. Thanks for sharing
Epic is by far my favorite way to play the game. I can't wait for Raider vs. Corvette battles!!! Aaargh so awesome!!!!!
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
pretty good restock right now on CSI:
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/page/22...sletter 251 - X-Wing Expansion Packs Restocks
Tie Defender/Fighter/Advanced/Phantoms
Y-Wing/X-Wing/E-Wing/Z-95
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/page/22...sletter 251 - X-Wing Expansion Packs Restocks
Tie Defender/Fighter/Advanced/Phantoms
Y-Wing/X-Wing/E-Wing/Z-95
Dragoshi1
Member
Thanks for that, ordered a Phantom after missing out on a bunch at a Barnes and Noble I was at last week.
MisterAnderson
Member
Lots of ships are restocked at Miniaturemarket.com as well
I got this for my birthday a while back and never played it.
I've got the core set, which has an X-Wing and 2 TIE Fighters.
I also bought the TIE Phantom and a TIE Defender packs.
Is that enough to play 1v1 with my girlfriend?
Would I need more Rebel ships?
Is another core set necessary?
I've got the core set, which has an X-Wing and 2 TIE Fighters.
I also bought the TIE Phantom and a TIE Defender packs.
Is that enough to play 1v1 with my girlfriend?
Would I need more Rebel ships?
Is another core set necessary?
PittaGAF
Member
Just the core set is perfect to be played between you two.
One uses the Xwing, the other one uses two Tie Fighter (game is balanced so).
I suggest some games with just that configuration, to learn the rules and the game flows (let aside even the advanced rules plus squadrons rules).
Then you will be buying wave after wave in no time
(Actually I still prefer low numbers fights....they are MUCH faster, a bit more unpredictable, and I find them more fun than huge points squadrons fighting, but maybe it's just me).
EDIT: If you want to use all the ships you bought, yes...you need some more rebels ships to have similar points squadrons...but I still suggest you to start with the basic set ships (1 XW vs 2 Tie).
Just the core set is perfect to be played between you two.
One uses the Xwing, the other one uses two Tie Fighter (game is balanced so).
I suggest some games with just that configuration, to learn the rules and the game flows (let aside even the advanced rules plus squadrons rules).
Then you will be buying wave after wave in no time
(Actually I still prefer low numbers fights....they are MUCH faster, a bit more unpredictable, and I find them more fun than huge points squadrons fighting, but maybe it's just me).
EDIT: If you want to use all the ships you bought, yes...you need some more rebels ships to have similar points squadrons...but I still suggest you to start with the basic set ships (1 XW vs 2 Tie).
Thanks, yes I'll just start with the core set then.
I was a bit worried 2 core sets were needed.
Will need to find time to read the rules now.
So far I've just been using the ships as ornaments!
I've been so addicted to this game. It is one of my first table top games and man, I'm just...wow. Thanks again OP.
So what does everyone think of Star Wars Armada? That's not out yet right?
Didn't get to try out Armada at GenCon but I watched it played a bit. Looks OK, but I think I'd rather stick with the game I've invested in: X-Wing.
And you're right, Armada's not out yet. The lazy union dockworkers are just getting around to hauling it off the slow boat from China where it's been sitting for the last three months.
Here you go: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/more/x-wing-2015-store-championship-locations/
Make sure to bring your turreted ships.
MisterAnderson
Member
I'd say that Most Wanted is the "must own" Scum and Villainy package to get. Starviper looks impressive but it also costs a lot of points, so it's probably going to be limited to 1 per 100 point squad in most cases. I'd say it's a must own ship though for the 2x Autothruster Upgrades it comes with alone.
Starviper is Scum only right now.
MisterAnderson
Member
If you're referring to IG-88 with his IG-2000/Aggressor, then yes, he's Scum only. If you're playing casually and set your own house rules, there's nothing really saying you can't pair up whatever ships with whatever factions, but competitively speaking it's forbidden.
Edit: Also, StarViper comes with a couple of amazing upgrade cards that can be used on your Imperial ships, namely Interceptors, making them actually viable to use against turreted ships.
Autothrusters
Autothrusters singlehandedly make the StarViper the only must-buy ship in Wave 6 from a competitive perspective. Soontir Fel with Push the Limit, Royal Guard TIE title, Stealth Device and Autothrusters will be a force to be reckoned with, especially when paired with a Decimator.
The M3-A probably is the second-most important SKU in the wave because a swarm of those things, all with Mangler Cannons or Heavy Laser Cannons, is probably deadly.
Most Wanted is third-best because of the upgrades for Y-Wings, and Scum Boba is pretty good.
The Aggressor (IG-2000) is in last place. Double IG-88 builds will be a thing and they'll probably be fun to fly but won't be strong enough to make a huge dent in the metagame. The fact that they're large-base ships with only forward arcs is gonna make it tough for them, even with decent dials.
And that annoys me, as I'm an Interceptor lover and didn't want to use other factions yet. Something tells me I will start a Scum fleet just for those things
. Oh well, time to play with an army builder to see what can I do with StarVipers and a Firespray And that annoys me, as I'm an Interceptor lover and didn't want to use other factions yet. Something tells me I will start a Scum fleet just for those things
just buy a StarViper to use its Authothrusters on your Interceptors, then
Shadows of the Empire novel and video game. May have shown up in some other stuff, but that's where it first appeared. It's Prince Xizor's ship.
Picked up some new product today. My total collection is now:
X-Wing x4
Y-Wing x2
A-Wing
B-Wing
E-Wing
YT-1300
YT-2400
TIE Fighter x3
TIE Advanced x2
TIE Phantom
TIE Interceptor x2 (Imperial Aces)
Y-Wing
Z-95 Headhunter x2
StarViper
Firespray-31
I'd really like to finish rounding out the Imperial side with a Decimator, a standard Interceptor, a Bomber, and a Defender. For the Scummies, I've thought about repainting a Rebel transport into a grimy brown and green for missions, in addition to picking up another transport for the Rebel side. Still need a Tantive IV and the upcoming Imperial Raider.
In the meantime I'm going to continue plugging away on some special terrain that I'm working on to give me an alternative to the standard space skirmish.
X-Wing x4
Y-Wing x2
A-Wing
B-Wing
E-Wing
YT-1300
YT-2400
TIE Fighter x3
TIE Advanced x2
TIE Phantom
TIE Interceptor x2 (Imperial Aces)
Y-Wing
Z-95 Headhunter x2
StarViper
Firespray-31
I'd really like to finish rounding out the Imperial side with a Decimator, a standard Interceptor, a Bomber, and a Defender. For the Scummies, I've thought about repainting a Rebel transport into a grimy brown and green for missions, in addition to picking up another transport for the Rebel side. Still need a Tantive IV and the upcoming Imperial Raider.
In the meantime I'm going to continue plugging away on some special terrain that I'm working on to give me an alternative to the standard space skirmish.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
all my Scum and Villainy stuff shipped.
now just refreshing UPS and thinking about how to build for a store championship next weekend. Autothruster Squints?
now just refreshing UPS and thinking about how to build for a store championship next weekend. Autothruster Squints?
Soontir + Push the Limit + Royal Guard TIE + Stealth Device + Autothrusters
Rear Admiral Chiraneau + Push the Limit + Rebel Captive + Ysanne Isard + Darth Vader + Engine Upgrade
98 points. When you inevitably have the choice for initiative, let your opponent have initiative so that you can position yourself after he's moved. At the beginning of the combat phase, when Ysanne starts kicking in because you've taken at least one hull damage, you can Push the Limit off of that evade action to do whatever you want, including boost (to reposition relative to enemies or to get yourself off of an asteroid).
My ships came in the mail today. I got the YT-2400, Imperial Aces and Y-Wing expansions, but today I just played around with the core set. I'm glad I sat in on a few games before hand, because the quick start guide that comes with the core set is hot garbage. It's one thing to suggest a game set up that is very simple, but it's another to exclude a bunch of the core rules while trying to teach the game. It's a big red flag when we roll to attack and are left wondering, "What the hell does 'eyeball' mean?".
We threw the quick start guide in the trash and used the real rule book to play a few games. We're ramping up on the complexity of the game, starting with the basic X-wing and TIE Fighters, then adding obstacles then unique pilots like Luke. So far the rebels are 0-3. The TIE Fighter's numbers and degree of maneuverability seems to put them at an advantage in the core set, especially with the barrel roll action. I've used it a few times to get out of the enemy's firing arc and get him into mine at the same time. Though we still have yet to use every part of core set, so maybe the upgrade cards even things out for the poor lone X-wing. Once we get comfy with the core set we'll start opening up the expansions.
We threw the quick start guide in the trash and used the real rule book to play a few games. We're ramping up on the complexity of the game, starting with the basic X-wing and TIE Fighters, then adding obstacles then unique pilots like Luke. So far the rebels are 0-3. The TIE Fighter's numbers and degree of maneuverability seems to put them at an advantage in the core set, especially with the barrel roll action. I've used it a few times to get out of the enemy's firing arc and get him into mine at the same time. Though we still have yet to use every part of core set, so maybe the upgrade cards even things out for the poor lone X-wing. Once we get comfy with the core set we'll start opening up the expansions.
Jumping straight into the full rules is a good thing, yeah. And if you want to learn the real rules, read the Tournament Rules PDF and FAQ PDF, huehuehue
The upgrade cards in the Core Set don't really help the X-Wing much, honestly. Being able to duck past asteroids (limiting the TIE Fighters' barrel roll options) should help the X-Wing survive, though.
Wins and losses at this point are irrelevant....you're just getting used to where a template will land you, really.....the next step is proper sneaky "I know that he knows that I know that he knows...." level tactics.
Just ordered this, along with a Y-wing expansion. I've been thinking about it for a while, but this price decided it.
Never thought I'd buy in, but after watching Wil Wheaton play X-Wing and seeing this price... Bought.