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MidGenRefresh
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I’ve picked the glossy one as I’m using my Deck exclusively indoors. I want the most out of OLED.
Codiox
Gold Member
I would love to get a side by side comparison of the following:
Pure etched glass OLED
Vs
Glossy glass OLED with anti glare screen protector.
I haven't found this comparison yet.
Whatever I will buy I will put a screen protector on it, so that's for sure.
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MidGenRefresh
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There are YouTube videos showing the difference but I don’t think camera can capture it properly. Check ETA Prime or Retro Game Corps.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Minsc
Gold Member
I don't have any issues with the controls on mine, is there a few games to really notice the issues on I might have? Just fighting games like MK or KI?
You need to grab Ori 2 and check out the HDR! Just imagine how great that will look if/when Chaiki supports HDR streaming like Moonlight. There's way more HDR games on PS5 than PC I think too, or at least I feel it's more expected on console games than PC games.
Only had a short time with it so far but:
- Feels nice in the hands than the old one
- Screen is amazing, and a very nice size
- Batocera doesn't work yet
- Did manage to get Chaiki to work (kind of pain, but should be ok now that it's set up), works very, very well with the oled steam deck. Its not quite as "clear" due the lower resution vs the portal, but it's completely ruined me on the portal so far. When I switch back the the portal, which I love the controls, the size and sharpness, but when I move (say, look left or right) there is so much more smearing going on. I had to go back and forth a couple of times just to see if it was just me exaggerating and so far it doesn't seem to be the case. It was the one thing I was most complaining about on the portal (corrrcted, said steam deck by accident), so it's not a complete shock but when you switch directly between the two it's more obvious.
Also of course the black levels and contrast are also better on the steam deck, even though the portal screen is actuall quite good in terms of contrast and color.
Going to try and get some xbox local direct streaming going, had it working breifly and it seemed fast/responsive but the keys are mapped yet so I have some work to do.
You need to grab Ori 2 and check out the HDR! Just imagine how great that will look if/when Chaiki supports HDR streaming like Moonlight. There's way more HDR games on PS5 than PC I think too, or at least I feel it's more expected on console games than PC games.
MidGenRefresh
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There are hundreds of games with native HDR support on PC, why everyone keeps brining up Ori? I don't get it, is it some kind of running joke?
TrebleShot
Member
They aren’t all supported on the steam deck, remember it’s running Linux and the implementation is different to windows.There are hundreds of games with native HDR support on PC, why everyone keeps brining up Ori? I don't get it, is it some kind of running joke?
So whilst a lot of games have HDR they aren’t all supported.
In example I can give is Baldurs Gate 3 and WRC 23 .
You can tell if it’s supported by checking the graphics menu and the quick access in steam deck has a blue HDR symbol by the brightness slider.
MidGenRefresh
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Minsc
Gold Member
Well that fucking sucks.
Ori's particularly nice because it runs at 90fps and the HDR in it is like getting hit with a truck. Game blasts you with HDR like you would not believe, and at the same time it's really dark as well! So it's a perfect looking game for showcasing it really well and fast (I've seen people say the HDR on the OLED Deck looks better than their brand new TV haha).
Remember HDR is pretty new (it jiust came out with 3.5 ~1 week ago and most people don't have their OLED decks yet, including those who patch/fix things) - though it supported it on TV-Out before, this is the first time it's running on the Deck itself and yes - quite a few games handle HDR in WIndows by simply not presenting the option to turn HDR on if your Monitor is not running with HDR enabled in Windows already - things like that should I imagine get fixed relatively soon.
Plus many people will say quite a lot of games in HDR look pretty bad, like it's not setup right. At least if developers target the Deck's OLED screen in HDR support, there's only 1 of those, not 1000, so you should have a nice bar.
And yeah, while Diablo 4 for example supports HDR, it's only noticeable in a few elements like explosions, torches, etc, where Ori is constantly bombarding you with its great moody artwork and HDR. So it's just a great go-to to showcase it. And it all works by default, no option tweaking needed. People have also said RE3 Remake, and Tony Hawk, and a few other sports games I forget have really great HDR working right now. LEGO Star Wars also seems to be in the ok camp as well. There's definitely a good handful of options that should increase tenfold over the months, but I don't think anything hits as hard as Ori.
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Dr.Morris79
Member
I'm just hoping it doesn't end up with the driver messing up the delivery and sending me a photo of someone else's bin they've left it inI, too, suffer until Monday.
Had that a few times
At least I've got the screen protector ready to go
Shakka43
Member
Hugely improved imo, then again I found the lcd one unplayable. Just installed Mortal Kombat to test the diagonals and was successful shooting Sub-Zero's ice ball (
) a perfect 10/10 times. Same for ice clone (
).They do rattle a little if you shake the Steam Deck and feel a bit loose but it honestly doesn't bother me or feels noticable when playing.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Yes, indeed.
graywolf323
Member
welp after seeing the impressions of the 512GB model start rolling in I just caved this morning & ordered one 
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Mine's out for delivery today.
Kings Field
Member
Pretty quick handling time for my 1tb. Just got the notice now.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
got mine yesterday but barely had time to mess with it. Can I just slap the SD card out of my old steam deck in it and it will work?
balls of snow
Gold Member
On chiaki, can have a look at any hdr game and see if the option reverts to sdr?Only had a short time with it so far but:
- Feels nice in the hands than the old one
- Screen is amazing, and a very nice size
- Batocera doesn't work yet
- Did manage to get Chaiki to work (kind of pain, but should be ok now that it's set up), works very, very well with the oled steam deck. Its not quite as "clear" due the lower resution vs the portal, but it's completely ruined me on the portal so far. When I switch back the the portal, which I love the controls, the size and sharpness, but when I move (say, look left or right) there is so much more smearing going on. I had to go back and forth a couple of times just to see if it was just me exaggerating and so far it doesn't seem to be the case. It was the one thing I was most complaining about on the portal (corrrcted, said steam deck by accident), so it's not a complete shock but when you switch directly between the two it's more obvious.
Also of course the black levels and contrast are also better on the steam deck, even though the portal screen is actuall quite good in terms of contrast and color.
Going to try and get some xbox local direct streaming going, had it working breifly and it seemed fast/responsive but the keys are mapped yet so I have some work to do.
MidGenRefresh
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It is here
Enjoy! I have a feeling that old model will feel ancient after 5 minutes spent with OLED version.
Shakka43
Member
Yes. I did format mine anyway cause I was using it as "internal memory" on my 64gb Deck, didn't want all my previous tweaks to messed up with my new Deck.
I plan to use my SD card just for emulation now.
TheStam
Member
The amount of money I've spent on games just because of getting the new OLED.. I'm sure this is a gold mine for Valve. I generally buy more games than most, but I don't particularly enjoy things like platformers or JRPGs on my desktop. Also I wasn't so into indies. Suddenly with a deck I love them and become like twice as profitable as a customer. Life Time Value of pure gold..
Anyways, in love with the OLED. I knew what I was getting since I had an LCD before, but modern AAA is mostly off the table for me (with a few exceptions). Performance isn't good enough unless streaming. Screen and basically everything is better now though, love it.
Currently making my way through Star Ocean The Second Story R. Never played the original versions, but it seems awesome and is stunning on the deck. I thought it had HDR actually, but the screen is just so good I guess it made a similar impact in SDR.
Anyways, in love with the OLED. I knew what I was getting since I had an LCD before, but modern AAA is mostly off the table for me (with a few exceptions). Performance isn't good enough unless streaming. Screen and basically everything is better now though, love it.
Currently making my way through Star Ocean The Second Story R. Never played the original versions, but it seems awesome and is stunning on the deck. I thought it had HDR actually, but the screen is just so good I guess it made a similar impact in SDR.
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bender
What time is it?
Meh.....I'm playing on my Steam Deck OLED and I don't get the OLED hype. What am I doing wrong?
Get a razor blade and etch your name into the screen so that everyone knows it is yours.
Dusktildawn48
Member
I spent some time today just figuring out what games can run at a locked 90fps
Ori and the will of the wisp
Doom 2016 (low settings required)
Alien Isolation
Walking dead season 2
Skyrim
Mass Effect 2 (legendary collection)
BioShock Infinite
Halo MCC, except for H2A
Portal 2
Rocket League
That's all I've figured out so far.
Ori and the will of the wisp
Doom 2016 (low settings required)
Alien Isolation
Walking dead season 2
Skyrim
Mass Effect 2 (legendary collection)
BioShock Infinite
Halo MCC, except for H2A
Portal 2
Rocket League
That's all I've figured out so far.
BigbyTheSheriff
Member
From what I've tested so far:
Half Life games
Steamworld Quest: Hand of Gilgamech
Fallout New Vegas
Halls of Torment
Topher
Identifies as young
I own both. Just got SD OLED today. I'm keeping the OLED and selling the Ally. That screen is just too good.
Shakka43
Member
Inside
Afterimage
Ori and the blind forest "runs" at a locked 90fps but the timing of the game is all messed up so a locked 60 is the way to play it.
Boralf
Member
If anyone has trouble connecting to Wi-Fi (like I did), check this thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1675200/discussions/0/4038101970203502664/ .
Anyone else had this?
Anyone else had this?
Topher
Identifies as young
A few thoughts about the OLED
-I love the etched screen. The reflections on my Ally are now ridiculously obvious. If there is anything lost with the OLED due to the screen then I would have to have this and the glossy version side by side to see it. As it is, I'm sending back the screen protector. Looks great.
-Love the look of the Limited Edition. Valve really did a good job on this. The orange accents are so cool.
-Steam UI is truly the best. Asus did a really nice job with Armoury Crate, but Steam really is the best. Glad Valve is working on Steam OS versions for other handhelds.
-Surprised how well Baldur's Gate 3 runs on this.
That's all for now.
-I love the etched screen. The reflections on my Ally are now ridiculously obvious. If there is anything lost with the OLED due to the screen then I would have to have this and the glossy version side by side to see it. As it is, I'm sending back the screen protector. Looks great.
-Love the look of the Limited Edition. Valve really did a good job on this. The orange accents are so cool.
-Steam UI is truly the best. Asus did a really nice job with Armoury Crate, but Steam really is the best. Glad Valve is working on Steam OS versions for other handhelds.
-Surprised how well Baldur's Gate 3 runs on this.
That's all for now.
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Kings Field
Member
Mine will be here Thursday. Going to probably get Dark Souls 1-3, Elden Ring, Half Life 1 and 2, and Balders Gate 3. This is my first dive into “PC” so I have to start somewhere.
RyanEvans21
Member
Is Battlefield 4 playable on steam deck?
graywolf323
Member
it’s listed as playable and ProtonDB reports agree
MatrixReloaded101
Member
No, because some game saves and files are stored on the internal drive.
I’ve been trying to move all my emulators and rom saves from the LCD to the OLED and ran into some issues. Also had issues with swapping out the 512GB SSD with the 2TB. I will post more about this later.
But if you use emudeck, they have a tool now that makes it easier to transfer everything (roms,saves,bios,settings) from your old deck to the new one.
It all comes down to which games you want to play. The Ally is best if you mainly want to play AAA games, game pass games and don’t care about the battery life. But in all other departments the OLED deck is better.
SRTtoZ
Member
Never even thought about getting one since I have a really nice PC already but last night after I was drunk and took a few Ambien, I got a little crazy and pulled the trigger, especially b/c the Limited Edition with the clear smoke case and the neon orange color scheme fucking DOES IT FOR ME. Anyway... PULLED THE TRIGGER. Couple questions.
1) Should I go for a 3rd party case? I usually go for Waterfield SF Bags cases b/c they are quality leather and made here right in the GOD DAMN USA! or is the one that comes with the higher priced Decks good enough?
2) Are there certain games that are must haves for the Steam Deck? I know the best part of the Deck is having the ability to customize games so you can get pretty much anything to run on it but are there games that are just made for this thing? Ones that look great and run 60-90fps easy? Games that would look insane in HDR on an OLED? I know Ori and the Will of the Wisp is probably one which I just ordered. How about Master Chief Collection? How does Infinite run on it? (campaign) How do I get Diablo 4 to run on it from Battlenet? Or is it not worth the headache and I should just order it from Steam? Do MMO's run on it well? FFXIV, New World, Lost Ark etc. I couldn't imagine running WoW with all of the addons. How does DOOM 2016 or Eternal run on it? OMG that would be insane, especially in HDR. Death Stranding, God of War, RDR2? Dark Souls 1/2/3/345/345/36/3, shit even Elden Ring!! Now that I'm going over all of these games I can't believe I didn't get one of these sooner. I always thought that a handheld this small wouldn't really be able to run these games good enough. I gues the thing that put me over the edge was getting my Switch with the OLED. I was so won over by the OLED on even a weak system like the switch and how damn good evertythihng looked, it was an easy decision for me to jump on the hype train with the Steam Deck especially at 1000 nits? (or did someone make that up?). Sounds crazy to me a handheld could do that with great battery life to boot. How about Callisto Protocol or Dead Space? Any good for the Deck? I wish Valve would team up with Blizzard/Activision so we can get those game pass games on the device without the extra hoops. It would be sick if they made it into an app or something. What kind of tricks are necessary to install Battlenet games or even Epic Game Store games? I have Alan Wake 2 and a bunch of others on there. I can go on and on but I guess my final question is, is the Steam Deck worth it?
1) Should I go for a 3rd party case? I usually go for Waterfield SF Bags cases b/c they are quality leather and made here right in the GOD DAMN USA! or is the one that comes with the higher priced Decks good enough?
2) Are there certain games that are must haves for the Steam Deck? I know the best part of the Deck is having the ability to customize games so you can get pretty much anything to run on it but are there games that are just made for this thing? Ones that look great and run 60-90fps easy? Games that would look insane in HDR on an OLED? I know Ori and the Will of the Wisp is probably one which I just ordered. How about Master Chief Collection? How does Infinite run on it? (campaign) How do I get Diablo 4 to run on it from Battlenet? Or is it not worth the headache and I should just order it from Steam? Do MMO's run on it well? FFXIV, New World, Lost Ark etc. I couldn't imagine running WoW with all of the addons. How does DOOM 2016 or Eternal run on it? OMG that would be insane, especially in HDR. Death Stranding, God of War, RDR2? Dark Souls 1/2/3/345/345/36/3, shit even Elden Ring!! Now that I'm going over all of these games I can't believe I didn't get one of these sooner. I always thought that a handheld this small wouldn't really be able to run these games good enough. I gues the thing that put me over the edge was getting my Switch with the OLED. I was so won over by the OLED on even a weak system like the switch and how damn good evertythihng looked, it was an easy decision for me to jump on the hype train with the Steam Deck especially at 1000 nits? (or did someone make that up?). Sounds crazy to me a handheld could do that with great battery life to boot. How about Callisto Protocol or Dead Space? Any good for the Deck? I wish Valve would team up with Blizzard/Activision so we can get those game pass games on the device without the extra hoops. It would be sick if they made it into an app or something. What kind of tricks are necessary to install Battlenet games or even Epic Game Store games? I have Alan Wake 2 and a bunch of others on there. I can go on and on but I guess my final question is, is the Steam Deck worth it?
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Taki Udon and Retro Game Corps it did a pretty good one. If you are using it indoors then regular makes the most sense, IMO.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Check out Fanatical and Humble Bundle offerings. They often have cheap bundles of good older games for very cheap prices.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Nice! Let us know how you like it vs Ally!It is here
Minsc
Gold Member
Never even thought about getting one since I have a really nice PC already but last night after I was drunk and took a few Ambien, I got a little crazy and pulled the trigger, especially b/c the Limited Edition with the clear smoke case and the neon orange color scheme fucking DOES IT FOR ME. Anyway... PULLED THE TRIGGER. Couple questions.
1) Should I go for a 3rd party case? I usually go for Waterfield SF Bags cases b/c they are quality leather and made here right in the GOD DAMN USA! or is the one that comes with the higher priced Decks good enough?
2) Are there certain games that are must haves for the Steam Deck? I know the best part of the Deck is having the ability to customize games so you can get pretty much anything to run on it but are there games that are just made for this thing? Ones that look great and run 60-90fps easy? Games that would look insane in HDR on an OLED? I know Ori and the Will of the Wisp is probably one which I just ordered. How about Master Chief Collection? How does Infinite run on it? (campaign) How do I get Diablo 4 to run on it from Battlenet? Or is it not worth the headache and I should just order it from Steam? Do MMO's run on it well? FFXIV, New World, Lost Ark etc. I couldn't imagine running WoW with all of the addons. How does DOOM 2016 or Eternal run on it? OMG that would be insane, especially in HDR. Death Stranding, God of War, RDR2? Dark Souls 1/2/3/345/345/36/3, shit even Elden Ring!! Now that I'm going over all of these games I can't believe I didn't get one of these sooner. I always thought that a handheld this small wouldn't really be able to run these games good enough. I gues the thing that put me over the edge was getting my Switch with the OLED. I was so won over by the OLED on even a weak system like the switch and how damn good evertythihng looked, it was an easy decision for me to jump on the hype train with the Steam Deck especially at 1000 nits? (or did someone make that up?). Sounds crazy to me a handheld could do that with great battery life to boot. How about Callisto Protocol or Dead Space? Any good for the Deck? I wish Valve would team up with Blizzard/Activision so we can get those game pass games on the device without the extra hoops. It would be sick if they made it into an app or something. What kind of tricks are necessary to install Battlenet games or even Epic Game Store games? I have Alan Wake 2 and a bunch of others on there. I can go on and on but I guess my final question is, is the Steam Deck worth it?
I like the Waterfield magnetic case a lot, it's the one I use. I also use a ProCase (or something) shell w/ magnetic cover to protect the screen instead of a screen protector. I also like how the shell feels better, I'm used to it now since I used it on the LCD, and it's kinda like using a phone without a case. Just feels weirdly small. But that Waterfield magnetic case IS smaller than the normal Deck case, so that's another plus for it for me. Dunno about the liner case that comes in the 1TB edition, that may be smaller than Waterfield's, but you can't use that liner probably with the shell w/ cover on, so I still think the Waterfield one is better for me.
Diablo 4, honestly I'd just use the Steam version and not have to deal with installing Bnet. Doom 2016 and Eternal (which has HDR) but ran at 60 on the LCD deck, and probably with a bit of tweaking can run at 90 on the OLED I'd imagine. They run great though. And are good training to getting used to the trackpad which is superior to analog sticks for FPS accuracy, once you're acclimated. Honestly you're probably best off just searching youtube for the game you're wondering + Steam Deck. All the videos will be from the LCD version, which the OLED gets slightly better performance on. Pretty sure most of those games you listed all run great though.
And for anything that doesn't people swear by Moonlight, which will get HDR added soon, which will make the device something else for streaming, which already people claim works perfectly at 90fps. And the PS5 program will probably follow suit, Chaiki or whatever it is called. So with those two apps, you really can cover all your bases. Steam stuff like Alan Wake 2 at max from PC or whatever settings PS5 use, and natively play most other games.
General rule of thumb is it should run a ton better than the Switch version. So if the Switch version runs 30, this probably does 60 w/ better graphics too. And if the Switch version runs 60, then you got a good shot at 90. Most PS360 level games will run at 90 and see 10+ hour battery life.
It's a killer device, with the unrivaled HDR in its handheld space, which is really something else, wait until you see Ori in person, and that same HDR in brand new AAA games streaming, and the all-day (literally 12 hour or more battery life), combined with all the control options and everything else, the only real weakness is it can't do everything without streaming some stuff. But damn if it doesn't play 20 awesome other games for each one it can't, there's absolutely no shortage of games this thing can run. And it gets better and better every month.
Minsc
Gold Member
I saw that transfer tool but it looked like a pain in the ass haha. I just took my 1TB SD card, plopped it in the OLED Deck, and re-ran the EmuDeck install (takes like 2 minutes) then started up Emulation Station from the shortcut icon it adds, and everything was there, just like before, all meta data + videos, etc.
And Steam reported all the games I installed on my SD card previously from the LCD Deck were instantly ready and shown as installed on the OLED deck.
It couldn't have been easier. Had all my emulation stuff, and 30 games all ready to go, just by moving the SD card from one Deck to the other, hardly any other steps needed.
Steam backs up everything to the cloud, so my games were instantly ready to pick up from where I left off too.
HelveticaBold
Neo Member
Has anyone managed to get HDR to work with Control? I installed the mod that added native HDR but it didn't work, it broke the game.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Popping my SD card from the old deck into the new deck just didn’t work for me for some reason so I had to use the transfer tool to get everything working. It really isn’t difficult to use, the transfer just takes awhile if you have a lot of games and data to transfer.
Minsc
Gold Member
I still had to install EmuDeck, but the paths are the same so all my data was still there. I ran the shortcuts to add what I wanted to Steam, and had to download the theme I like in Emulation Station, but the games all came up and worked, so it was a lot faster than transferring through USB for me, though it is nice to have that as a fallback, which I probably would have done if it didn't work out.
MatrixReloaded101
Member
Here are my impressions so far:
1. It’s been said 100x times but the OLED screen is beautiful, it’s a clear upgraded compared to the LCD lol but I think the update valve released to improve the colors for the LCD has really helped that screen a lot so there is a clear difference but it’s not as dramatic compared to the LCD screen before the update.
2. I’ve noticed a slight bump in performance for some emulator games even when they are locked at 60 fps on the OLED, games like NBA Street Vol 2 which I’ve played a lot on my LCD look and run better on the OLED.
3. The OLED is a lot lighter than the LCD, I was surprised by the difference because it’s only suppose to be 5% lighter but it’s noticeably lighter.
4. Swapping the SSD out is a bit harder on the OLED compared to the LCD because the OLED has a black ribbon cable that runs across the motherboard shield. So in order to get to the SSD you have to either remove more stuff or work your way around swapping the ssd with the black shield in the way.
I didn’t want to risk removing more than necessary so I did the swap without completely removing the black shield and it was a pain in the ass to do this because the black shield also blocks access to the battery so it was harder to disconnect the battery and do the ssd swap. When I did the ssd swap the first time I didn’t push the battery clip back in all the way so my steam deck was randomly powering off and wouldn’t turn on unless I plugged it into the charger. Did some troubleshooting and realized the issue was happening because the battery clip wasn’t pushed in all the way, again an easy over sight due to the black shield covering the battery connector.
Here is an example of removing the shield to get to the SSD:
Here is an example of how to swap the ssd without removing the black shield:
1. It’s been said 100x times but the OLED screen is beautiful, it’s a clear upgraded compared to the LCD lol but I think the update valve released to improve the colors for the LCD has really helped that screen a lot so there is a clear difference but it’s not as dramatic compared to the LCD screen before the update.
2. I’ve noticed a slight bump in performance for some emulator games even when they are locked at 60 fps on the OLED, games like NBA Street Vol 2 which I’ve played a lot on my LCD look and run better on the OLED.
3. The OLED is a lot lighter than the LCD, I was surprised by the difference because it’s only suppose to be 5% lighter but it’s noticeably lighter.
4. Swapping the SSD out is a bit harder on the OLED compared to the LCD because the OLED has a black ribbon cable that runs across the motherboard shield. So in order to get to the SSD you have to either remove more stuff or work your way around swapping the ssd with the black shield in the way.
I didn’t want to risk removing more than necessary so I did the swap without completely removing the black shield and it was a pain in the ass to do this because the black shield also blocks access to the battery so it was harder to disconnect the battery and do the ssd swap. When I did the ssd swap the first time I didn’t push the battery clip back in all the way so my steam deck was randomly powering off and wouldn’t turn on unless I plugged it into the charger. Did some troubleshooting and realized the issue was happening because the battery clip wasn’t pushed in all the way, again an easy over sight due to the black shield covering the battery connector.
Here is an example of removing the shield to get to the SSD:
Here is an example of how to swap the ssd without removing the black shield:
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Minsc
Gold Member
1 - Now try a few HDR games, like Ori 2. The difference in screens really shines then, to me then it really feels like you're looking at visuals that the LCD model is simply incapable of conveying. Also I still have both devices so it's pretty apparent every time you're playing something dark on the LCD, the light bleed on the blacks or just the blacks being lit at all is much worse. Like this:
And that's post color update. Just the whole entire background/foreground not actually looking black on the LCD gives such a worse impression.
Basically I'd say:
General Use:
LCD 5 / 10
OLED 10 / 10
Ally/Go 8.5 / 10 (not being OLED, but much, much better than LCD Deck and higher res and/or framerate. But still no OLED)
HDR Content:
LCD 0 / 10
OLED 10 / 10
Ally/Go 0 / 10
Moonlight/Chiaki Steaming
LCD 4 / 10
OLED 10 / 10 (Both will soon have HDR, support 90fps, and also can use WiFi 6 for better connections - everyone who's used these has stressed what a huge upgrade OLED Deck is for them, and actually running PC games at 800p, 90fps seems like a great way to get those 90fps on Ultra settings for a very long time haha)
Ally/Go 8 / 10 (No HDR or OLED, thus worse visuals, especially with HDR games - which is probably the main reason you'd want to use streaming - newer games that don't run native, could be 9/10 if gamepass was a big factor, for me its not though, but still won't have HDR so playing over PS5 streaming with HDR would be better on the Deck than over gamepass w/o it, and I'm actually not sure how well gamepass runs if you do go through all the trouble, and put on Windows maybe it is capable of HDR, but I'm just not interested in gamepass)
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