Steam Deck Previews
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Maiden Voyage
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Julius Ibidus
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ColdAfternoon
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how much did that laptop cost?I still can't help but feel a slim Ultrabook and a gamepad would he a more elegant solution than this is. The thing is huge. My new laptop is pretty portable compared to this and does everything and even is like a Wacom too
Coolwhhip
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More clicks and more money. Successful youtubers are basically whores.
brian0057
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Here's the thing.So much more elegant than just holding a handheld device...
If gaming is the only thing that you care about, then the Steam Deck is a good value option compared to a laptop. It's also a lot more manageable when on the go.
Throw in some emulation and you have yourself quite a bit of a gaming beast. If this is the case then it's probable that you may already have either a decent desktop or a laptop for anything else.
What I take issue with is with those that claim they will use this thing as their daily driver instead of a laptop when it's time to do literally anything else that isn't gaming.
No, you're not. You're lying to yourself if you think this machine can actually replace your laptop for anything that doesn't involve videogames. Just because you can install Windows on this thing and treat it like a PC it doesn't make it a good machine for something that isn't playing CS:GO. There's a reason netbooks lived and died in the span of like a few years. The size of the screen is one of them.
So, yes. A laptop with an XBOX controller is a more elegant solution than a Steam Deck with a keyboard, mouse, and monitor.
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Ultradsa
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I've never been a fan of the matte/anti glare screens because you loose color saturation like mad. I have an old 1080p 120hz monitor with a nice shiny screen that looks damn near close to OLED. When I upgraded to 1440P 144hz there wasn't a single non matte monitor in the market. Another universal downgrade like motion was from crt to lcd.The 64GB and 256GB models come with glass, too? Now I see no reason for the 512GB model.
Sean Mirrsen
Banned
It looks like an Acer ConceptD 7, which is an extremely premium sort of tablet-hybrid convertible. Basically five times the price of the Deck.
As someone who struggled to find a decent gamepad to go along with his Samsung tablet hybrid PC for emulation purposes, one that would fit in the carry bag without breaking the sticks, and this was a bag for a laptop at least half again as wide as the tablet convertible... yeah, no. I'll take a flat-pack of wireless keyboard, mouse, and dock, plus the Deck carry case, over having to pack a gamepad along with a laptop.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
I wouldnt call any of these journalists. Youtu ers have zero integrity and are easily bought.
Ogbert
Member
A lot of fluff, but comfortable, lots of control options, good screen and amazing performance.
Hinedorf
Banned
Maybe I'm in the minority in my thought process on this but in my entire life I've considered handheld gaming to be at best casual. Having to adjust your hands/head for a long period of time IMO has always been too cumbersome and I can only treat the handheld option as a last resort of gaming.
This is really cool, really expensive, and not something I would devote enough time on it as if I were going to play a triple A game I'd want it on a big monitor in a comfortable position. That's to me why the Switch is so amazing, it offers the function as an alternative not as a primary function of use.
Very cool toy, not for me.
This is really cool, really expensive, and not something I would devote enough time on it as if I were going to play a triple A game I'd want it on a big monitor in a comfortable position. That's to me why the Switch is so amazing, it offers the function as an alternative not as a primary function of use.
Very cool toy, not for me.
Julius Ibidus
Member
nobody who pre-ordered this is 'lying' to themselves. they know exactly what they are getting, and the possibilities are endless!
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
In their DOOM Eternal tech review DF said that base consoles run roughly at PC's medium spec. The PS4 targets 1080p, Xbox One targets 900p, 60fps target for both with dynamic res and drops to "near 720p" for both.
Basically, Steam Deck can run games at PS4 settings, just at 1280x800 instead of 1920x1080. Plus it has Ryzen CPU, SSD, VRS, and FSR support(i.e.- better CPU-limited performance, faster loading, modern features).
Basically, Steam Deck can run games at PS4 settings, just at 1280x800 instead of 1920x1080. Plus it has Ryzen CPU, SSD, VRS, and FSR support(i.e.- better CPU-limited performance, faster loading, modern features).
MightySquirrel
Banned
What a mighty little beast.
Tarin02543
Member
Perhaps I can replace my 2026 PC with a 3rd gen Deck?
Have you played xenoblade 2 handheld?
Lupingosei
Banned
That is great, but there is one question.
Are there actually enough components in the market, so they can build enough, or will it be another payday for scalpers.
Are there actually enough components in the market, so they can build enough, or will it be another payday for scalpers.
rofif
Banned
It's all fine aside from the price and the fucking lcd screen... 16:10 cmon.
Let's at least hope it' good IPS.
And the buttons on steam controller were crappy.
The paddles on the back look to be making the unit harder to grip properly... and it's very heavy so idk about that
Let's at least hope it' good IPS.
And the buttons on steam controller were crappy.
The paddles on the back look to be making the unit harder to grip properly... and it's very heavy so idk about that
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01011001
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youtube algorithm farming. it is basically proven that video thumbnails with faces get more clicks than ones without faces.
Sean Mirrsen
Banned
I played Subnautica at 360p to get over 20fps on my tablet PC.
01011001
Banned
that game looks as bad as it does in handheld because of developer incompetence tho.
first of all they kept the screen space reflections on, which look absolutely horrendous at that low resolution. then they kept ambient occlusion on, which also looks horrendous at that low resolution.
and to really get that into perspective, these effects also contribute to how much the GPU is pushed, and therefore how low the dynamic resolution goes.
so basically:
we have 2 graphics effects that the devs could easily just turn off in Handheld mode, but didn't
these 2 effects look absolutely disgusting due to the low resolution
and these 2 effects contribute to the low dynamic resolution the game runs at because they are costly
turn these 2 shitty looking effects off, and you would have a better looking game and a game that runs at a higher resolution
multi platform titles have at least some excuse to look like shit on Switch, console exclusives that only come out on switch have absolutely zero excuses to run and look as shit as Xenoblade 2
a similar thing was how the devs that ported The Witcher 3 were incompetent and made the game look like shit at launch for no good reason, and after people with modded Switchs turn off the shitty AA and tweaked other stuff, the devs patched these changes in as good as they could.
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catvonpee
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Three thousand dollars rounding up.
Denton
Member
Steam Deck looks fantastic.
Unlike Switch, I will be actually able to play on it without my hands cramping out after 15 minutes.
Unlike Switch, I will be actually able to enjoy good fidelity, stable framerate and fast loadings.
Unlike Switch, I will have my entire existing Steam library ready to go.
Unlike Switch, I will not have to pay Nintendo's shitty prices for old games if I want to play them on the go.
Unlike Switch, I will be able to do anything I want on it, including net browsing, TV show or pron watching.
Unlike Switch, I will be able to play games from most of previous console generations, including Nintendo games.
Thanks, Valve.
Unlike Switch, I will be actually able to play on it without my hands cramping out after 15 minutes.
Unlike Switch, I will be actually able to enjoy good fidelity, stable framerate and fast loadings.
Unlike Switch, I will have my entire existing Steam library ready to go.
Unlike Switch, I will not have to pay Nintendo's shitty prices for old games if I want to play them on the go.
Unlike Switch, I will be able to do anything I want on it, including net browsing, TV show or pron watching.
Unlike Switch, I will be able to play games from most of previous console generations, including Nintendo games.
Thanks, Valve.
01011001
Banned
for the first one, these exist:
for the second one, that is true... for like a year or two, and then you're back to 30fps low resolution.
have you seen Linus' video? he had Doom Eternal at 720p Medium (dynamic res off) and it couldn't hold 60FPS whatsoever
basically, this already gets beaten by an Xbox One S... how do you think this will fare in 2 years?
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Evilms
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Steam Deck's RDNA2 GPU is much faster than Aya Neo's Vega - VideoCardz.com
Steam Deck’s RDNA2 GPU is 60% faster than Aya Neo’s Vega in Doom Eternal Valve offered a first hands-on to select members of the media. This is the first time we can learn about their experience with the early preproduction version of the device. Steam Deck vs Nintendo Switch, Source: Tom’s...
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After seeing these previews I'm more.hyped than ever. If you have your expectations in check (power level PS4 power as expected) this is something to get excited about to play a ton of your Steam games.
It's just the versatility of the device. I could be playing it in my office room connected to monitor keyboard and mouse, to playing it in the garden in handheld mode, to playing on the TV with a controller in the lounge. For me I'm mainly going to play indie games, emulated games and PS3/360 gen and prior gen games on it. Big AAA current gen games I will still play on the big screen on my PS5 such as Elden Ring etc. Hell it might be used for remote plag for big open world games doing side missions which I recently started doing on my phone with remote play app.
It's just the versatility of the device. I could be playing it in my office room connected to monitor keyboard and mouse, to playing it in the garden in handheld mode, to playing on the TV with a controller in the lounge. For me I'm mainly going to play indie games, emulated games and PS3/360 gen and prior gen games on it. Big AAA current gen games I will still play on the big screen on my PS5 such as Elden Ring etc. Hell it might be used for remote plag for big open world games doing side missions which I recently started doing on my phone with remote play app.
01011001
Banned
*Xbox One
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
The lcd on my valve index is great compared to some OLED VR screens, which suffer from black crush. And that same company will bring another (lowest latency lcd screen with great colors, to the masses).
Not going to lie, but you do seem to bitch a bunch about PC or PC related stuff, that I sometimes wonder if you either console war, or would just be better off with a console. It seems to go either way at times.
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Denton
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Yes, extra paid grips that make it as large as Deck. Wonderful.
Better than Switch will. I have no problem with stable 30fps on handheld and I expect Deck to run AAA games for good 3 years at stable 30.
Even when it stops being powerful enough, there are tens of thousands of games to play on it. But I might also just sell it and upgrade to a newer model.
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Sir Vilhelm
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This exactly
01011001
Banned
a surprisingly large number of games on PC that have a 30fps lock have uneven framepacing. so you will need to lock that on a driver level for each game you want to... that's gonna be annoying
that screen not having Freesync is honestly a travesty
kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
Just curious, how much your setup costs?I still can't help but feel a slim Ultrabook and a gamepad would he a more elegant solution than this is. The thing is huge. My new laptop is pretty portable compared to this and does everything and even is like a Wacom too
rofif
Banned
I do I do... I am just skeptical towards pc crap lately but that's because I know it all to well.
No console war at all though. I have 360, ps4, ps5 and always had a pc (since 1997). 3080 pc now. I still have 3 vintage 1995-1997-1999 pc's in basement and crt monitor. I love old pc gaming and connect at least the cr(very rarely, last time last year) to replay old games properly.
So do understan - it's probably too much love for pc which causes me to look too critically.
As you talk about VR - I had every oculus device. Starting 2013 with Dk1 even haha. I never used Index but Rift S LCD was worse than Quest 1 oled or even cv1.
Imo Oled does not have not have black crush at all. At least I've never noticed it on vr or even on lg c1 tv and I for 100% noticed black crush before on VA monitors. Maybe you had bad luck with oled. I remember oculus dk2 with oled having bad case of oled black smear.
Anyway - sorry for being annoying shit lately... I should probably stick more to a console if deep inside I am tire of all the issues pc brings with it's mighty advantages.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I'm curious about this as well.
Denton
Member
I am sure Valve's system level framerate lock will be fine.
BLAUcopter
Member
I WANT IT!!!!!!
Fess
Member
Oh yes this was wild, and he seemed super impressed by it, really really positive preview.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
I have a masters in display tech if it were a thing (did medical grade calibration on displays), and most headsets display black crush (which isn't a thing in medical stuff as they don't use OLED, but it's very obvious and apparent in just about all OLED VR displays, as well as obvious trailing).
I don't think having a LCD screen by a company that specifically selected the best LCD at the time in the valve index, would make a "mistake" by putting a LCD display in the deck.
01011001
Banned
it better be with that non-freesync screen