I honestly don't think it'll be used primarily as a gaming device on its own, mosty used to play the games on PC, without being by your pc. Ad-hoc/basic gaming would be done on this device, with the potential of high end gaming with local wifi, etc.
Don't be so literal, ofc I don't think it would outsell the consoles, but for sure they could do a cool 10 mill for launch year, or at least 2nd year, particularly if they had enough for a retail presence. Switch did 30 mil last year after all. The bigger issue is they simply can't get that much supply but the sales knob is much easier to turn if you'd have had it. The strength of the device is not just as a switch alternative but particularly as a mini-PC in general too, and that's why the sales potential is so great especially since PC hw prices have stagnated at the lower end for years now.
What kinda router do you have, to induce that amount of lag in local play? You must have a super outdated network system to have input lag on "lan" settings. That should never be the case.
I empathize with how disappointed many of us are with how Nintendo have handled things of late... The OLED Switch was a slap in the face...Not sure whyLiquidRex gave you the empathy emoji, as this could possibly be better than steam link, while being able to run games without needing a host, aka running games natively without having a PC.
Agreed 100,000% we can agree big time on that front!I
I empathize with how disappointed many of us are with how Nintendo have handled things of late... The OLED Switch was a slap in the face...
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Indeed. I mean, if the switch is any indication of what people will settle for to get that mobile gaming action, the Deck has nothing to worry about —how many units did the Witcher 3 sell for the Switch?
No, the raw teraflops are aprox. like PS4 but this is using Zen 2, RDNA2 (so RT, VRS, vertex shaders..), 16GB of DDR5 etc. So will look way better than a PS4. Just compare this RAM to a PS4 or Series S.
And this is where we can call this a showcase from AMD. They're showing what is possible with their hardware. This is a good kick up Nvidia's butt to try do something about it.
It is less TFs PS4 but the IPC is 25% better due being RDNA2.
Valve don't have shareholders to keep happy like Nintendo do. Nintendo always sells hardware at a profit, it's where they make a fortune, whereas others have sold at a loss until basically this gen and the last. If Nintendo came out and lost a hundred bucks per sale their shareholders would be furious.
I don't think they'd have a hope in hell of selling 10 mill in a year. While it might be "cheap" for a low end gaming pc that's portable, it's still very expensive compared to the consoles. The 512gb is the only one really worth buying, and it's like almost twice the price of the series X and PS5.
Not Series X though.
Considering they sell a crap ton of games, I'm very surprised they don't sell at a loss, or even breakeven. They can easily make up for it with 1 first party game like Smash or Animal's crossing. Out of the console makers out there they should be the ones who could easily do it and not feel a dent.
They made it an unwritten internal policy to never sell hardware at a loss pretty early in the company's history. The only time they came close to selling at a loss was right after 3DS's launch, when it sort of stumbled out the gate, and they had to cut the price and institute the Ambassador Program.
yep, i should have capitalized and bolded the if
Those architectural improvements are great but 1.6 RDNA TF = 2 GCN (PS4) TF doesn't mean the real world performance will be on the same level as a PS4 GPU. Steam Deck isn't using the power-hungry GDDR type memory so it'll very likely be bandwidth constrained like the Ryzen APUs on PC. You only have to look at something like 5700G which has a 2 TF Vega iGPU but perf-wise it falls below PS4-level. In DOOM Eternal it manages around 54fps at 80% of 720p, Low preset. And it's at 65W... Steam Deck has like what 4-15W for the APU, on top of that the GPU seems to have highly variable compute power judging from the listed 1.0-1.6 GHz clock speed.
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