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[Rhaknar]

Evoland 2 continues to be shockingly good, even from story standpoint. Its telling a nice little time travel stoy so far. The gimick is scarcely used, its really just a normal action rpg that sometimes turns into something else (like a 2d platformer).

I liked the first for what it was, but I did not see this one coming at all. Both the stuff in the

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empire town where you have to do odd jobs to get money

, and then the

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haunted forest

levels had just great rpg design. Im shortly after that now, where

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the game went full 3d graphics.

At one point I will stop being surprised that this is a "proper" game, but that point hasnt come yet.

 

[Wok]

This just sounds crazy.
To me at the time Crash was the awful platformer with an awful protag that people had to settle for because they didn't own N64 and Mario. And time hasn't been kind to it at all.
It's always been a mystery to me how some people remember Crash fondly. Spyro was the PS1 platformer/collectathon that was actually good.

The moves of the dragon were too focused on combat for a platformer. Crash is the true platformer.

 

[zkylon]

Yeah, 2017 gaf goty will be Horizon or Zelda, with Persona being the third. It's hard to see anything else top those 3.

Which is a bit depressing because I like the world of Mass Effect, but everything they've shown of the game has been kind of eh.

after the trainwreck of me3 bioware kind of doesn't deserve another hit but it's hard for me to root against mass effect

i love that series

 

[Knurek]

Yeah, 2017 gaf goty will be Horizon or Zelda, with Persona being the third. It's hard to see anything else top those 3.

True GAF 2017 GOTY:

 

[thesaucetastic]

I actually think Persona has a good chance of being GOTY next year.

 

[Tizoc]

The moves of the dragon were too focused on combat for a platformer. Crash is the true platformer.

Spyro games were more about exploration and collectathon-ing really.
Dunno if I'd call them a true platformer, more an Adventure game I guess.

 

[Mivey]

after the trainwreck of me3 bioware kind of doesn't deserve another hit but it's hard for me to root against mass effect

i love that series

Isn't it a totally different team? I would not be that quick to judge. With a focus on exploration and bringing the Mako back, they have already made great decisions. The only thing they have to avoid is making the open world sections completely life less and filling it with terrible, terrible fetch quests ("Oy,Inquisitor, I know you gotta save the world and all that, but would you kindly fetch me some pillows, these refugees can't sleep very comfortably."

 

[barber]

Evoland 2 continues to be shockingly good, even from story standpoint. Its telling a nice little time travel stoy so far. The gimick is scarcely used, its really just a normal action rpg that sometimes turns into something else (like a 2d platformer).

I liked the first for what it was, but I did not see this one coming at all. Both the stuff in the

Spoiler

empire town where you have to do odd jobs to get money

, and then the

Spoiler

haunted forest

levels had just great rpg design. Im shortly after that now, where

Spoiler

the game went full 3d graphics.

At one point I will stop being surprised that this is a "proper" game, but that point hasnt come yet.

later on when you have access to the whole spectrum it becomes really interesting with all the effects and everything and the story is... well it took me a time to completely understand haha
and i still hate one part of the game

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the whole inside the singularity part with the weird puzzles uggg that got annoying really fast

 

[pretty done]

I actually think Persona has a good chance of being GOTY next year.

The gameplay is nowhere near mainstream enough. A lot of people are going to be disappointed since it's likely their first Persona game.

Maybe SMT comes out on everything (UE4!) and ends up being unanimous GOTY.

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lol

 

[Arulan]

The general GAF GOTY awards are never very interesting in my opinion. Much like other mainstream GOTY awards, it's a very AAA-centric list that favors cinematic and narrative-focused single-player experiences. I do appreciate the work that goes into it though.

Personally, I find RPG Codex's RPG GOTY awards the most interesting. Steam-GAF's GOTY awards are also usually good for finding some of the better lesser-known games I haven't yet played. Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight being one such title I'll check out sometime this year.

 

[zkylon]

Isn't it a totally different team? I would not be that quick to judge. With a focus on exploration and bringing the Mako back, they have already made great decisions. The only thing they have to avoid is making the open world sections completely life less and filling it with terrible, terrible fetch quests ("Oy,Inquisitor, I know you gotta save the world and all that, but would you kindly fetch me some pillows, these refugees can't sleep very comfortably."

i mostly want them to have the grand story figured out from the beginning

i don't want another space child and i don't want andromeda shepard to be randomly guilty stricken when i've spent 200 hours turning her into a complete badass that would never turn into a whiny asshole like she was in me3

i really hope they don't fuck it up

 

[Rhaknar]

FF 12 HD hasnt come out for PS4 yet right? Much less announced for pc (although theres no reason not to think it wont come eventually like all the rest)

no one plays jrpgs nowadays.

 

[rahji]

I actually think Persona has a good chance of being GOTY next year.

no one plays jrpgs nowadays.

 

[zkylon]

i'm playing persona 4 right now

 

[Tizoc]

I am playing Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apoc.

 

[zkylon]

I am playing Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apoc.

yeah!

 

[Deleted member 59090]

Etrian Odyssey Untold here.

 

[D3RANG3D]

Septerra Core here.

 

[Rhaknar]

yoooo this race track cut scene tho. Sometimes I forget that those SE cats really know their CGI huh?

 

[rahji]

I think jrpg is a niche genre just like the horror genre. Not everybody wants to be frightened in game and not everybody wants to grind endless hours or wants to spend 50+ hours for one single playthrough. My claim was maybe a little bit bold.

 

[PandaPedinte]

40 upcoming indie games in 2017

There are some that don't have a PC version announced but the majority is going to release on PC.

 

[Vibranium]

This just sounds crazy.
To me at the time Crash was the awful platformer with an awful protag that people had to settle for because they didn't own N64 and Mario. And time hasn't been kind to it at all.
It's always been a mystery to me how some people remember Crash fondly. Spyro was the PS1 platformer/collectathon that was actually good.

I want Spyro to come back pretty badly. Activision should get Insomniac working on it after Crash and Spidey. Throw that disgusting Skylanders design in the trash and restore him to his greater self.

 

[Tizoc]

I think jrpg is a niche genre just like the horror genre. Not everybody wants to be frightened in game and not everybody wants to grind endless hours or wants to spend 50+ hours for one single playthrough. My claim was maybe a little bit bold.

Not all jRPGs require grinding for a long time.
How long are Western RPGs on average anyways?

jRPGs aren't THAT niche though

 

[spindoctor]

Isn't it a totally different team? I would not be that quick to judge. With a focus on exploration and bringing the Mako back, they have already made great decisions. The only thing they have to avoid is making the open world sections completely life less and filling it with terrible, terrible fetch quests ("Oy,Inquisitor, I know you gotta save the world and all that, but would you kindly fetch me some pillows, these refugees can't sleep very comfortably."

I find it interesting that people remember these kinds of quests in Inquisition when it's been a staple of Bioware games for a long time now. Even the much beloved DA Origins had a quest where I was told to deliver five pink slips around the game world and I was left thinking why the hell I should be doing this given what's at stake.

The problem is not with game design, but rather the writing. Bioware has been telling the same story for years now. "You are the chosen one who has to save the universe from it's peril." As long as they keep telling this story, every side quest like this is going to feel stupid from a narrative point of view. And they inevitably end up being a fetch quest or gathering or delivery because nobody at Bioware cares enough to make them good.

 

[someguyinahat]

I am playing Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apoc.

I'm going through my second run of it.

It's a lot of fun, but I seriously wish there was an easier way to boost the chance of fusion accidents. Getting demons sick isn't that easy, and I need like a dozen more accident-only demons.

 

[tmarg]

The problem is not with game design, but rather the writing. Bioware has been telling the same story for years now. "You are the chosen one who has to save the universe from it's peril." As long as they keep telling this story, every side quest like this is going to feel stupid from a narrative point of view. And they inevitably end up being a fetch quest or gathering or delivery because nobody at Bioware cares enough to make them good.

Videogames in general have this problem, even MMOs and games designed to be sandboxes, where having the player character be a big damn hero generally make no sense.

 

[Lashley]

Why are people overhyping Horizon? Haven't seen anything from it to suggest it'll be a GOTY game for me

 

[Ladekabel]

Why are people overhyping Horizon? Haven't seen anything from it to suggest it'll be a GOTY game for me

Because Robot Dinosaurs

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and Sony exclusive.

 

[madjoki]

Why are people overhyping Horizon? Haven't seen anything from it to suggest it'll be a GOTY game for me

Sony?

 

[cyba89]

The general GAF GOTY awards are never very interesting in my opinion. Much like other mainstream GOTY awards, it's a very AAA-centric list that favors cinematic and narrative-focused single-player experiences. I do appreciate the work that goes into it though.

Personally, I find RPG Codex's RPG GOTY awards the most interesting. Steam-GAF's GOTY awards are also usually good for finding some of the better lesser-known games I haven't yet played. Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight being one such title I'll check out sometime this year.

Community votes with lots of ballots are always a popularity contest. Of course the games most people played have the highest chances at the top spots. And there's nothing wrong with that because this isn't supposed to be a definite list of the best games of the year. It's just a list of games people of the community liked in that year.

SteamGAF had less people voting so there are a few outsiders (Momodora, Xanadu Next) but the SteamGAF list overall was also pretty AAA-centric.

 

[Vazra]

Tales of Berseria Demo and Symphonia on and off

 

[gelf]

Not all jRPGs require grinding for a long time.
How long are Western RPGs on average anyways?

jRPGs aren't THAT niche though

I'm not a massive JRPG fan but I'm not sure I've played a single JRPG where I really felt I had to grind to progress unless I was trying to beat some totally optional side activity not needed to finish the game.

 

[tmarg]

Because Robot Dinosaurs

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and Sony exclusive.

Sony?

I haven't owned a Sony system since the ps1, and I think it looks damn good.

 

[yuraya]

True GAF 2017 GOTY:

A MGS3 remake with those graphics would probably destroy all records for GAF GOTY. Unless of course Konami changes some stuff from the original game. I doubt they would tho.

 

[madjoki]

https://na.alienwarearena.com/ucf/s...eaway/early-access-steam-keys-for-crash-force

Free Crash Force Steam Key (20 left)

 

[Jawmuncher]

A MGS3 remake with those graphics would probably destroy all records for GAF GOTY. Unless of course Konami changes some stuff from the original game. I doubt they would tho.

I mean they'd probably give it the MGSV controls, which honestly would be amazing.
That and maybe make the area bigger with less loads to each new section.

 

[Hektor]

This just sounds crazy.
To me at the time Crash was the awful platformer with an awful protag that people had to settle for because they didn't own N64 and Mario. And time hasn't been kind to it at all.
It's always been a mystery to me how some people remember Crash fondly. Spyro was the PS1 platformer/collectathon that was actually good.

But i had both and liked Crash a lot more. The linear forward nature felt a lot more like a transition from classic 2D-Sidescroll platforming into a 3D environment than SM64 ever did, the faster pacing and imho better soundtrack and art design just cement it's quality for me.

I mean they'd probably give it the MGSV controls, which honestly would be amazing.
That and maybe make the area bigger with less loads to each new section.

Konami should remake all MGS games in MGSV's engine, like Yakuza Kiwami.

 

[Durante]

Mad skillz:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-vsaY3TOVo

(If you haven't played any N it probably won't look like much to you)

 

[Knurek]

A MGS3 remake with those graphics would probably destroy all records for GAF GOTY. Unless of course Konami changes some stuff from the original game. I doubt they would tho.

Have you not noticed the 'pachislot' part?
#FucKonami

 

[Lashley]

Because Robot Dinosaurs

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and Sony exclusive.

Sony?

Pretty much true. Why is GAF so sony oriented?

 

[hardcastlemccormick]

Why are people overhyping Horizon? Haven't seen anything from it to suggest it'll be a GOTY game for me

I think it looks fantastic on many levels and I suspect it could be one of the best games of the year. I usually like AAA action adventure RPG games. That being said, I'm also wary of the Guerrilla games pedigree - in my opinion they've never made anything better than an average game.

 

[MadGear]

imo JRPG fans should keep an eye on Battle Chasers: Nightwar. They haven't shown too much of it yet but the games combat looks like traditional JRPG combat. I really hope this turns out well.

 

[Uraizen]

Ay, Tizoc.

1. Tizoc (52)

Highest user affinity; according to this you have great taste.

 

[uncredited male]

I can't take unzipped Boss seriously.

 

[Rhaknar]

40 upcoming indie games in 2017

There are some that don't have a PC version announced but the majority is going to release on PC.

thank you for this, I didnt know about many of those, and like 90% of them look interesting / great

missing Death's Gambit and EITR tho. Well im sure its missing a lot more.

 

[yuraya]

I mean they'd probably give it the MGSV controls, which honestly would be amazing.
That and maybe make the area bigger with less loads to each new section.

Revamping it all in fox engine would be fine. I meant like story related stuff. If they altered something for whatever reason it would probably piss off a lot of people. The cutscenes and story telling direction was perfection in MGS3.

Have you not noticed the 'pachislot' part?
#FucKonami

Its not true if I don't notice it.

 

[orochi91]

Pretty much true. Why is GAF so sony oriented?

They put out great games that appeal to most hardcore gamers.

Probably.

 

[Ladekabel]

I haven't owned a Sony system since the ps1, and I think it looks damn good.

Graphically it looks impressive to me, too, and will likely get it down the line, but for me to get hyped about it it must show that it isn't a generic open world game. And robot dinosaurs don't do as much for me as I thought I would.

Pretty much true. Why is GAF so sony oriented?

The PS4 is currently the most popular console.

 

[Grief.exe]

They put out great games that appeal to most hardcore gamers.

Probably.

I wouldn't really call homogenized AAA action game hardcore by any stretch.

 

[Lashley]

They put out great games that appeal to most hardcore gamers.

Probably.

very true

Graphically it looks impressive to me, too, and will likely get it down the line, but for me to get hyped about it it must show that it isn't a generic open world game. And robot dinosaurs don't do as much for me as I thought I would.



The PS4 is currently the most popular console.

I'm aware, but GAF was Sony heavy even when 360 had the lead in last gen days. Gaming side seems to be heavily "fanboyish" toward Sony too

I have a PS4/PC but I can admit Sony has faults, some refuse to.