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STEAM | July 2014 25TH THREAD EDITION (2008-2014)
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General_Frags
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Pretty good bundle!
The Dear Leader
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Thanks guys, I'm gonna give the M&M's another try, Divinty: OS here I come!
pls based mars let me win
I can't have chocolate anymore, otherwise I would to.
Jawmuncher
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Oh man Towerfall Ascension is not my kind of game in SP.
I was having no fun at all on the first 2 stages. Is there no MP mode with bots for this? Since I know thats what the main draw is.
I was having no fun at all on the first 2 stages. Is there no MP mode with bots for this? Since I know thats what the main draw is.
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Is it only local MP?
This M&Ms business gets me all nostalgic for when Pepsi did a Rock Band track code under each cap promo around 2009 and it turned out that if you won (really good chance to win) you just picked your platform (360/PS3/Wii) and depending on the platform, you got the equivalent of $2 in Microsoft Points, Wii Points or PS3 Wallet money. Best part of working in a can return room at a grocery store that year...
Back to watching games download!
Back to watching games download!
What's this M&M thing I've been earing about?
freshVeggie
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Yep, Chivalry has been on discount on humble since last week. Still got it cheaper from mother russia.
Also, get well soon from your hernia. Didn't you have some troubles with your hands a couple days ago? Was that the hernia blocking your nerves?
You gotta eat more chicken. Protein is good for firm body tissue, yo.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
So when's the last time Blink Bundle had a bundle? Are they still even a thing? I remember the first one being fantastic (Eldritch, Mutant Mudds Deluxe, etc), but didn't hear much after that.
Jawmuncher
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Yep. Gotta say this seems to be a purchase only if you have real friends who can come over and play.
I think it was a while ago; they've only had two bundles so far, right?
Out_Of_Ammo
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I won Worms Crazy Golf, thanks!
Very true, I thought US was done, still, I'm still confident there won't be Broforce to anyone.
phoenix296
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Who are they roleplaying as? Don't leave out important information like this!
Guys I bought a physical CE of Dark Souls II for PC. I already own the CE for PS3. Am I doing it right?
Sounds good in my books.
Tizoc
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Only interested in that Inquisitor game since its in my wishlist.
you deserve everything you getAHAHA
I totally forgot about your answer - and the fact that I actually acknowledged it and replied to you too.
SO YEA APPARENTLY YOURE NO ONE NOW
i hope witcher 3 final act is just a black screen that says GERALT IS VICTORIE and ends
edit: corrected by my kind editor miss dino
Haha yeah I was one of those that got a card with no money on it. I heard it was working for some people as a paypal middleman so I assumed it was working again. I've gotten nothing but No Wins since then though.
Guys I bought a physical CE of Dark Souls II for PC. I already own the CE for PS3. Am I doing it right?
Not unless you have it for 360 as well
dirty casual
MarcoZombieCannon
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That's why I'd been wanting to buy/win it. My PC has been beating out the Wii U at gatherings with my friends, so I wishlisted a crapton of local multiplayer games to pick up. And Towerfall is pretty much on the top of that list, until Gauntlet comes out on my birthday, anyway
Sucks to hear that there's no online multi for people who can't really do local.
The Dear Leader
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Send MOVIE to 78787 in a text and you have a chance to win a $6 Mastercard gift card(?), you can do it each day too. Some have been really lucky and won multiple times, but other's haven't won at all (me lol)
Jawmuncher
Member
Gotta include the typo in there so GERALT IS VICTORIE
Not yet but never say never. Nah I wouldn't use the 360 pad unless I had to.
This would make my year
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
Can we make it Victoly instead?
Wow, share some of that luck!
ChimpanzeeThat
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So i'm playing Splinter Cell Blacklist (a sale purchase) and doing the Grimm missions where you can't be spotted or you'll fail the mission instantly.
I keep getting to the last part of the missions and getting caught. I have seriously bad timing in this game and the heavy infantry guys are so annoying.
I keep getting to the last part of the missions and getting caught. I have seriously bad timing in this game and the heavy infantry guys are so annoying.
done
The One Who Knocks
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Regarding the bolded the Bioshock Infinite Spoiler Thread is quite detailed in making the connections between various events. One thing that must be stressed is that must of it had been written on "2nd April 2013", within a week following the game's release. As a result, the ending explanation portion in particular has now been rendered somewhat irrelevant given that the downloadable content (which I've not played actually) drastically alters things in a way that I have not yet been able to reconcile into a nice, logical explanation, but even still, when the main storyline is considered alone, the thread should be more than acceptable in connecting a variety of the aspects. It absolutely must be noted that I think looking at it as a puzzle to solve, rather than merely following it along passively, shifts the focus away from where the developers intended and despite myself having played a part in trying to deconstruct it in this manner, I don't think it adds very much to the game (even if some connections that Irrational made are quite clever).
Overall, I agree with your assessment in large, even if I don't find the narrative as strong/as big an appeal as you seem to, with a variety of threads which seem lackluster and mismatched. I believe the primary issue many find with the gameplay is the lack of depth present, the lack of need to use the entirety of the arsenal, the pacing preventing downtime, a rather bland selection of repetitive enemeis, the sparsity of the rails, and the hugely negative impact that the restricted level design places has upon the gameplay.
The lack of depth, and streamlining of the gameplay, is something which is particularly amplified when considering not only the previous "Bioshock" games, but System Shock 2 also. The eight vigors presented are quite interesting themselves, and the ability to combine them provides some additional variety, but don't capture the same level of variety and synergy found in the original's plasmids, either as a result of the huge salt burden (I forgot what it's called in Infinite) that certain vigors impose or the 'directness'/clearly offensive nature of all but "Return to Sender". "Charge", "Bucking Bronco", and "Return to Sender" were certainly the most interesting additions, but "Charge", somewhat ironically, falters due to the sheer effectiveness of it when combined with certain Gear and the upgrades, while "Return to Sender" had lots of potential but is acquired too late for much experimentation. "Enrage" (Posession is similar, I know, but I think the lack of vigors to direct it elsewhere subtract from it), "Security Bullseye", "Target Dummy", and "Telekenesis" were, in comparison, much more interesting powers with a greater mix of offensive-defensive strategies, and most importantly the EVE syringes being stored ensured that you could mix and match them at will, together without worrying about running out and sticking to cheaper ones. Given that you upgrade them with dollars (this is an important distinction), I would imagine that many players are likely to stick to one or two reliable ones ("Bucking Bronco", "Possession", and "Charge" are what I think would be most likely candidates) that have been improved rather than diversify, whereas in Bioshock and Bioshock 2 this wasn't too much of an issue (more so in the latter). The weapons themselves must be considered also, with the great reduction in weapon types (as a result of the ammunition-switching removal) and much more standard fare in terms of what's presented not being a particularly favourable aspect. This is compounded by the lack of a weapon wheel, which lessens one interest in experimenting further as why switch weapons if you already have something reliable and may not find it again?
The usage of dollars for the tonic upgrades ties into the lack of need to use the entirety of your arsenal that some may perceive as an issue (personally, I actually like it as you can tackle everything how you want). By having both vigors and weapon upgrades use dollars, you have to be much more selective about what you upgrade. While I, personally, always upgrade vigors, the carbine, and a second weapon (I forgot what as it's been awhile since I played it), I have read quite a few accounts from people that simply upgrade the weapons alone because they are effective, which they are. While I feel that the vigors are much more lethal in that they can handle a crowd and deal sizable damage while also having a defensive aspect, it is perfectly understandable that somebody would rather forego them given their reliance upon salt which cannot be stored. While not being able to store salt did help balance the gameplay slightly, it made power-use a much less appreciable option as one may worry if they'll manage to get more in time, simultaneously increasing the emphasis on guns and making you less likely to experiment with the available powers. I must, again, emphasise that I actually very much like this aspect, as I feel it allows for a greater amount of freedom in how you play the game, but this is an area that certainly could be complained about as people may not feel similarly.
While there is freedom in how you play the game, there is very little freedom in the level design, where you're constantly funneled down a rather narrow path at break-neck speed.once you pass the opening. The pace of the game, outside of one or two rare pauses, is relentless, while narrow corridors and sizeable yet rather empty open areas dominate the game, skyrails thrown in occasionally for good measure (which are completely broken by "Winter Shield", but that's more of a balance issue). I actually feel there is, in places, an interesting variety in the levels' openness but clearly there are those who do not, and it's perfectly understandable why. They don't really have the complexity featured in "System Shock 2" or even "Bioshock" and while it could be argued that this is not a fault with "Infinite" but is instead something derived from the players' perception/expectation, I think it's acceptable given the (deceptive, even if the original vision was completely unfeasible and the game entered a state of development hell) initial presentation/introduction of the game. The skyrails played a very minor role and only really covered a single area, or connected two, rather than spanning across multiple areas, reducing their impact. This is made somewhat more disappointing when the areas that featured them were some of the more dynamic combat arenas in the game. The enemies encountered were interesting, but at times it felt to me like there were too many simple foot soldiers and not enough variety in what you encoounter to make some of the combat scenarios more interesting. Make no mistake, the enemies were creative, unusual, and quite fun to fight against mostly (the Handymen a disappointing exception being extremely repetitive and monotonous to fight against, and a certain 'boss' near the end of the game being absolutely terribly designed imaginatively, and gameplay-wise), but it just felt like they could have made it somewhat more interesting by throwing in either a greater number of vigor-using enemies, or more 'special' enemy types.
One final complaint I've seen is that the enemies being bullet-sponges, without enough feedback to make the gameplay interesting. I don't mind this, but it is absolutely understandable as enemies require tens of bullets to be put down, particularly in combat difficult (to interject, I think this is what actually makes the vigors so good), and there is very little feedback that you're actually doing something to them. To use "The Last of Us" as an example, there's a clear visual feedback from the enemy as to what has actually happened to them after you do something to them, and it helps make the combat more satisfying. The large absence of this in "Infinite" may drastically reduce how satisfying somebody finds the gameplay.
Overall, I actually very much agree with your assessment despite enjoying the the narrative less interesting than you seem to, while there are also many other areas I find very impressive (the score, enemy and level design [not from a gameplay aspect obviously], the art direction, and), but these are some of the reasons I can think of that people may find the gameplay dissatisfactory, even if I disagree or am unbothered with much of it.
CD Projekt RED are Polish, aren't they? So shouldn't it be GERALT JEST ZWYCIESTWO?
Belgium just won by the skin of their teeth. Now watch the TV ratings plummet
A huge and wonderful gift my friend. Thank you so very much for this chance to finally play this gem I've always heard so much about and desired to play.
Your offer of sending the physical retail game is much appreciated, but I would rather someone else has a chance to play it through that and standard installation. So please offer the physical retail copy to someone else.
So once again many thanks for the game, a delayed thank you for helping a friend of mine find some game shops in Porto last year, and just nice to have you around in Steam threads to talk to.
MisterLuffy
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I tried out the Freedom Planet demo, it's decent. I love the maze stage because of the music. I used both characters. Carol is okay, I like the fact she can do something that Lilac can't such as gliding, wall jump, she can jump to red platforms to another red platforms, her special move is the lightning legs like Chun-li. But I have a feeling Lilac is going to be used more, I like that she has a shoryuken and a special move that shoots you straight or upwards. So far, from the trailer, there will be three characters too choose from. Sorry if my view for that game is bad.
Edit: I checked the readme file, and I've missed a lot of stuff some characters have like Lilac having a divekick. Also, it's not red platforms but jump pads where Carol stands on it and uses it to jump to another jump pads.
Edit: I checked the readme file, and I've missed a lot of stuff some characters have like Lilac having a divekick. Also, it's not red platforms but jump pads where Carol stands on it and uses it to jump to another jump pads.
That mission is pretty frustrating. Satisfying when you beat it, but it took me and my friend a few hours to finally finish it. We haven't played the game since, lol
At the moment, a human version of Fluttershy. It looks like a rotating cast of characters though, which includes some Dark Souls ones which is cool, I think?
This just really isn't my thing. Especially when they're on a non-steam game called "Sexy shower time come join!" but one of the first lines in their profile is "Perverts who only want sex can fuck right off away from me." I don't think I'm the only one sending mixed messages here.
Shut up, Dot.
Jawmuncher
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Nice Edit.
You take that the FUCK back. >:-(
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
So about that Corporate Lifestyle Simulator key I found sitting around in one of my old Groupees bundles...wasn't that the game that used to be called Zombies, and the creator was being a shithead about giving early/pre-Greenlight purchasers Steam keys? I seem to recall something like that.
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