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[Guesclin]

As you know, developers now have the option to voluntarily disclose the use of generated AI within the game on the Steam page under 'AI Generated Content Disclosure' (such games as Ready or Not and BOPS6 use generative AI images, but do not disclose it on their Steam pages).

On the Metal Eden page, you can now read the following:

The developers describe how their game uses AI Generated Content like this:
This game features voice-over content partially created through AI voice generation tools.

As you might expect the STEAM discussions went ballistic and are now issuing a full on boycott of the game.

In January 2024, 80% of Reikon games were laid off. Now what ?

Game Dev  Thread 'Kotaku has learned that Reikon Games, the studio behind Ruiner, has cut about 80% of its staff or around 60 people.'

Jan 25, 2024

Latest round of layoffs today, Kotaku has learned that Reikon Games, the studio behind Ruiner, has cut about 80% of its staff or around 60 people.

Kotaku has learned from sources familiar with the situation that layoffs have happened at Reikon Games, an independent studio located in Poland. The developer previously released Ruiner in 2017 and has been teasing its next game over the last year or so.
Multiple employees have publicly posted about the layoffs on social media and...

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Hopefully the game is good and receives a lukewarm welcome, if not, the fire rises, Polish brothers.

 

[intheinbetween]

Yeah, lets boycott the implementation of new technology that could help medium and small studios

 

[struggler_guts]

It's like all the babies crying about ai on instagram, no one gives a fuck and the tech is gonnah advance and be here with or without you

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Post the MW2 boycott steam group picture please.

 

[digimaster7]

I used to hate AI as much as the next guy, but then I tried Copilot and god damn it really is freaking convenience. for example if I want to understand a code with complex syntax I just copy paste the whole thing and it literally explained it to me step by step instead of being roasted on stackoverflow

 

[Fess]

If they can cut the development cost and help devs make games faster with AI, then what's so bad about it?

Embrace it, use it, grow with it. Don't fight it.

 

[DaciaJC]

So a whole two people are boycotting the game, is what I can tell from your screenshot.

 

[Filben]

What's up with people recently discovered the term 'slop' and using it for anything they don't like?

I don't like most AI-generated content, too, but good luck boycotting a thing just because of that. Then again gamer cunts would boycott something when even one pixel isn't at the right place.

 

[Lokaum D+]

you guy know that IA creates jack shit right ?

some poor bastards ll get they likeness used and ll earn ZERO U$ for it, just cause they didnt read some really small line is some 349 pages tos.

 

[justiceiro]

Studios really underestimate the desdain gamers have for AI generated stuff. When you open any website and all you see it's ads for the AI slop riddled games, it's difficult to ignore the use of it in any game.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

Yeah, lets boycott the implementation of new technology that could help medium and small studios

Yes, let's. Whenever they use AI slop instead.

 

[Magic Carpet]

I would rather have AI speech than the usual 'gerbil' speech that most games use.
Warbled tones used as voices belong on old gameboy carts.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Unreal jobs workers freaks are everywhere. I don't understand the obsession. Real jobs could give you all that plus earning respect from all people but why the escape? If it's a 1st language arrogance then it's a huge bubble that has to be burst sooner than later.

 

[Punished Miku]

Same reason I boycotted Starfox (SNES). Doesn't even use real animals.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Yeah, lets boycott the implementation of new technology that could help medium and small studios

Its slop. As soon as I hear Ai voiceover on a YT video, it tells me the creator is not confident or that is lazy as fuck and wants to make the easiest possible content. Same feeling towards developers. By adding Ai voiceovers, you arent paying someone that does that for a job. Why should anyone support such practice?

 

[Boo Who?]

This just in:

 

[Wildebeest]

What's up with people recently discovered the term 'slop' and using it for anything they don't like?

I don't like most AI-generated content, too, but good luck boycotting a thing just because of that. Then again gamer cunts would boycott something when even one pixel isn't at the right place.

Yeah there is a real problem with slopslop these days. Careless overuse of the word in a very sloppy fashion. People need to stop slopposting.

 

[MagusMajul]

I used to hate AI as much as the next guy, but then I tried Copilot and god damn it really is freaking convenience. for example if I want to understand a code with complex syntax I just copy paste the whole thing and it literally explained it to me step by step instead of being roasted on stackoverflow

I love ai, always have don't understand the hate behind it. This is the way of the future nothing you can do to stop if especially complaining.

 

[Kilau]

Considering how so many voice actors are just loony activists, this is a positive.

 

[MagusMajul]

Its slop. As soon as I hear Ai voiceover on a YT video, it tells me the creator is not confident or that is lazy as fuck and wants to make the easiest possible content. Same feeling towards developers. By adding Ai voiceovers, you arent paying someone that does that for a job. Why should anyone support such practice?

you're not paying black smiths to iron horse shoes because you are too lazy to take care of a horse and buggy or even walk. you must be an out of shape fat ass who drives everywhere and has no concern of the time honored tradition of black smithing.

 

[Guesclin]

So a whole two people are boycotting the game, is what I can tell from your screenshot.

2 threads on the steam discussions and one vicious thread back on the #800080 place.

 

[UniformDeliverance]

"As you might expect the STEAM discussions went ballistic and are now issuing a full on boycott of the game."

So I went and checked steam, I see three posts about this each with like ~14 responses (not all of them negative).

Perhaps we have different definitions of "Ballistic" in this context, but I'd say most people don't really care. Also it seems that every character in this game is in some way robotic, an AI voice might actually be thematically fitting here.

 

[Paulistano]

If they are honest about the use of AI I don't see a problem.

 

[ssringo]

I dont care one bit if AI is used or not. I only care if the end product is good and interesting.

 

[Connificent]

Allyourgamesarebelongtous

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

AI derangement syndrome

 

[reinking]

I'm waiting for the first game to feature Ani.


(No, not even tried her out)

 

[dorkimoe]

Yeah, lets boycott the implementation of new technology that could help medium and small studios

and cost people their jobs

 

[MagusMajul]

and cost people their jobs

 

[lughnasadh123]

Not sure why all context is removed why AI was used or, more importantly to me, how well the implication is just to hate on it for some arbitrary principle. Having AI pop off a few lines for a robot character because the devs allege they couldn't do anymore recordings with voice actors seems rather harmless.

 

[Topher]

(No, not even tried her out)

 

[Parazels]

I do love Vale's sexy voice in ChatGPT.

What the hell do those pc-minorities want?!

 

[GHound]

Looking into it this is not a game I'd be playing anyway.
But if I had been this wouldn't have even be a speed bump.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Honestly, if it was a major company or a huge game and they did it without giving actors/actresses jobs, then yeah, I could see folks being upset. But even then, this was only one character and 10 lines. Not every character and not every piece of dialogue.

I don't see a problem with that, lol. I'd almost argue that it feels more fitting for a robotic character to be using an AI voice, lol.

 

[Sephimoth]

That's why most studios/indies don't disclose it, because it gives anti AI'ers ammo to freak out.

I think the disclosure thing is temporary anyway. AI is going to be used in every game, if not already. Nothing anyone can say or do can stop that.

 

[nikos]

Not a fan of AI, but to "boycott" a game over a few AI lines spoken by a robot is dumb.

If there's one thing worse than AI, it's those types of gamers.

 

[Fbh]

If there's a reason to boycott the game it's that, at least based on the demo, it's offering the usual UE5 experience: Shit IQ with poor performance (at least on Ps5).

 

[Holammer]

Not sure why all context is removed why AI was used or, more importantly to me, how well the implication is just to hate on it for some arbitrary principle. Having AI pop off a few lines for a robot character because the devs allege they couldn't do anymore recordings with voice actors seems rather harmless.

AI voice gen for a robot character, it fits the bill.

 

[Hari Seldon]

The hate against AI in video games seems drummed up by industry insiders who are friends with these voice actors. Voice acting is definitely going to be deleted by AI, there is nothing they can do to stop that. However actual live acting is completely AI proof.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

It's like all the babies crying about ai on instagram, no one gives a fuck and the tech is gonnah advance and be here with or without you

Instagram is trash and AI makes it even worse.

 

[Space Runaway]

If it was story driven game I'd care but for voices for in a movement shooter where that's all filler, I've minimal issue.

Edit:

AI was used to generate about 10 lines of chatter for one robotic character. After we couldn't do any more pickup recordings with actors. Cheers.

That's what people are up in arms over? =/

 

[vpance]

I just learned recently most of the anti AI brigade are actually furries. And they're upset that AI took away their livelihood of furry art commissions.

 

[Soodanim]

I will take AI over overly dramatic bait trying to make a shit storm out of a fart. Sick to death of seeing people act like like it's armageddon when it's just 3 people that are barely allowed in public hammering the letters off their keyboards.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Same reason I boycotted Starfox (SNES). Doesn't even use real animals.

Yeah I dunno man. Can't decide what's worse. AI voices or playing as robot. Can't be bothered to use real voices or people. Unacceptable.

 

[Poppinfresh]

I had never heard of this game, but now I'm going to buy a copy just to support the developer and their decision to use AI voices.

I truly believe that AI for localization and voice work is the future. Time to embrace it.

 

[GHound]

I just learned recently most of the anti AI brigade are actually furries. And they're upset that AI took away their livelihood of furry art commissions.

Anecdotally this partly checks out, though the artists I know who I've sussed out that being the reason for their hatred of AI aren't furshitters themselves so there's probably the added irritation of getting okay enough at drawing donkey dicks for commissions.

 

[Madjaba]

AI will steal my job too and nobody will care so welcome to the club baby !

 

[Durin]

The issue with AI is that it can often be used as a shortcut for people without any real talent or ability, so you end up with slop.

That said, if AI is used to save time/resources in the development process, producing a good overall product...no one but a tiny ass minority will care. Just like most people don't care about how the sausage is made with game development in general, they just care about the end product. AI is roughly the same to the average consumer.

 

[ReasonBeing]

So a whole two people are boycotting the game, is what I can tell from your screenshot.

To be honest, no different then most headlines we see coming from traditional and alternative media outlets. 2 people will hate something and the next thing you know we get "People are furious at this one thing!"

 

[geary]

Its slop. As soon as I hear Ai voiceover on a YT video, it tells me the creator is not confident or that is lazy as fuck and wants to make the easiest possible content. Same feeling towards developers. By adding Ai voiceovers, you arent paying someone that does that for a job. Why should anyone support such practice?

That's one of the stupidest thing ever heard on this site. By your logic, we should still be pre-industrial revolution.