Bernkastel
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Steambox may cost above 750 $ (Source: random twitter guess)
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ClanOfNone
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lol, no thanks at that point. Would probably bite at $500, maybe even $600 if a controller is included.
PeteBull
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599$ is max they can charge to reach semi relevant (10-15m)unit numbers before crossgen ends(2030 or so) and gabecube will be akin to todays og switch specswise- aka such a crazy gap in hardware performance vs midrange pc/ps6/xbox pc no1 will bother porting/optimising games for it.
Ofc its their choice what their priority is, some(100-200$) mark up on the device or no markup/small loss but prioritizing amount of units in customers hands.
Saying all that Gabe's new yacht wont pay for itself if they chose market penetration, obviously big Gabe prefers to penetrate all his bitches on new yacht instead
Ofc its their choice what their priority is, some(100-200$) mark up on the device or no markup/small loss but prioritizing amount of units in customers hands.
Saying all that Gabe's new yacht wont pay for itself if they chose market penetration, obviously big Gabe prefers to penetrate all his bitches on new yacht instead
Little Mac
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GAF:
GAF (after Orange Box 2.0 gets announced):
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Panajev2001a
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Coloress_Kafka
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Anything higher than the base M4 Mac Mini is pure insanity.
Ashamam
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Its not a laptop though and its barely a PC, at least as far as most people buying it will be concerned. Its a gaming machine first second third and... ok maybe not fourth.
Anyway I think cost comparisons to consoles are going to matter more to consumers than comparisons to PC's of any type. Regardless of how it 'should' be viewed.
Also I do think they will price it higher than people expect and I do think it will sell less than people expect. 10-20m units......lol. On the other hand I think it will probably perform better than people think even with 8GB of VRAM but Valve are going to have a hell of a time marketing it.
At they end of the day I think it will be a pretty cool product in a technical sense but poor value in the market. Especially if OEM's jump on the form factor bandwagon and just ship with SteamOS. Think better performance and you have to deal with some fan noise but you aren't paying much more for the privilege.
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I'd say $750 is on the high-end, but having been shopping around for a new mini-pc for an emulation build there are only a handful of machines on the market with comparable cpu + gpu configs in a small form-factor and they aren't cheap.
Its funny because you can get way more bang for your buck on the cpu side, but getting an improved gpu side adds a very substantial premium. The Steambox sits somewhere between an AOOSTAR GODZ, and the Minisforum Atomman G7 PT which is a range between $700 and $1100.
Its funny because you can get way more bang for your buck on the cpu side, but getting an improved gpu side adds a very substantial premium. The Steambox sits somewhere between an AOOSTAR GODZ, and the Minisforum Atomman G7 PT which is a range between $700 and $1100.
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YeulEmeralda
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Well Nvidia GPUs already have an HDMI out and you can use a Dualsense on windows so the GabeCube isn't bringing anything new to the table apart from design I suppose.
RagnarokIV
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This is pure speculation, Valve has not released any firm pricing information about the Steam Machine.
So FUD from SweetTooth alt in (de)nial.
This is pure speculation, Valve has not released any firm pricing information about the Steam Machine.
So FUD from SweetTooth alt in (de)nial.
Sebastian1295
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DOA. Specs are trash for that price. You essentially are throwing away 750 dollars or more on a low spec pre-built pc that isn't customizable in terms of upgrading the parts.
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Majima Everywhere System
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I'm struggling with what the other audience is seeking.
The industry needs something simple that runs Unreal 5 games flawlessly and has access to the anti cheat games. It can't say Xbox on it.
I do think developers realize this isn't coming by 2040 and are turning off engine features at the moment. I'd kill someone for a working mirror.
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Sebastian1295
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This caters to an audience so niche that it has no hope of succeeding. It's just going to be an expensive low spec PC that isn't customizable like a PC is because you can't upgrade the hardware inside of it. PC guys are just going to spend the money to upgrade their rigs, and console guys will stick to console because of their friends and library of games on console.
Valve claims that it's more powerful than alot of PC's currently being used but that just means that those people either don't have the money to upgrade their PC, or they're content with what they have and don't need more powerful hardware to play the games that they're currently playing.
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Randall365
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I'd be amazed if it wasn't 850 - even their VR thing is 1000
Sebastian1295
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Just spend the 750 dollars or more and upgrade your PC. You're essentially just buying a non customizable and low spec PC in the steam machine and it makes no sense to do so. Your games are going to run worse on this thing than on a PC that's upgraded using the money u would've spent on this to upgrade your rig.
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Steam has a captured audience, none of Valve's hardcore fans would buy a PS5 instead of a Steam Machine even if the Steam Machine cost twice as much as a PS5. Even Sony acknowledges the fact that they can't get anyone to move from Steam to PS5, which is why they instead port everything to Steam.
Might be trying to make its possibly cheaper $450-600 price seem reasonable when it gets announced. This is a laptop without a screen/batteries, only has 512GB storage and 8GB VRAM. They can do cheaper than $750 if they wanted to.
yeah valve one caters to blind fangirls, which will amount to single digit millions at most. so doa
falling into hell
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$750 nobody will buy it at that price. If they try to sell it at that price most computer shops will built their own mini pcs selling for a cheaper price making fun of valve.
PlayStaytion
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It has 20TF.
ValiantInstance
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The Steam Deck benefitted from the fact Microsoft had already paid for the development of the chip for a handheld that was later scrapped, Valve found a use for it instead.
Now we're seeing the true cost of a smaller company trying to compete.
Now we're seeing the true cost of a smaller company trying to compete.
mèx
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The Steam Deck benefited from a much better value proposition: bring your 20+ years Steam library everywhere. That was awesome, even with weak specs.
What is the value proposition for existing Steam users? Playing at a lower resolution, with worse settings and framerate?
What is the value proposition for console gamers? They can have better performance by buying a PS5 Pro.
For Valve this should be a trojan horse to get people into the Steam ecosystem. At 700+ this is not happening. At 600 I would say it's not worth it, save up and buy something better. 500 would be the sweet spot.
Hudo
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I am not the target audience for this because I have a powerful PC. But for people who have worse specs than this (and according to the Steam survey, there are a lot), if Valve can make that "upgrade" more affordable than you'd have to pay elsewhere, it might be a boon. I think this is their attempt at presenting a hardware baseline that devs can target.Just spend the 750 dollars or more and upgrade your PC. You're essentially just buying a non customizable and low spec PC in the steam machine and it makes no sense to do so. Your games are going to run worse on this thing than on a PC that's upgraded using the money u would've spent on this to upgrade your rig.