Steambox may cost above 750 $ (Source: random twitter guess)

Not surprised if true with how overpriced a lot of stuff are. But if it's at that price especially for the base 512 version than I'll pass on that and would just pay more for a better PC so I can be more prepared for the next set of big games and I imagine there would be a good amount that'll just rather pay for for a better pc at that point.
 
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I'm not in the marked for this, as I have a "secondary" PC besides the TV in the living room which functions as my Steam Machine.
But if they price is above 750, i'd expect many would rather spend 100-200 more and build a superior system.
 
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Hohenheim said:
I'm not in the marked for this, as I have a "secondary" PC besides the TV in the living room which functions as my Steam Machine.
But if they price is above 750, i'd expect many would rather spend 100-200 more and build a superior system.
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Yep and a lot will even pay more than that for a better pc. At this point it goes like this

If the Steam Machine is priced at like around 600 than consumers would be like damn it's only 8gb of vram and I won't be able to have the good experience for more demanding games in the future but you know what it's only 600 so Ill consider it since I'll save a lot.

But if it's around 900 than people start going like the thing only has 8gb of vram and it's already like 900 so might as well pay a few hundred more since the price difference isn't that much anymore and just get a better pc to be better prepared for the more demanding games in the future.

And more than 8gb of vram and 512 gb would be ideal now so if the base model is already above 750 price with only 512gb than that'll be another blow.
 
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Sebastian1295 said:
This caters to an audience so niche that it has no hope of succeeding. It's just going to be an expensive low spec PC that isn't customizable like a PC is because you can't upgrade the hardware inside of it. PC guys are just going to spend the money to upgrade their rigs, and console guys will stick to console because of their friends and library of games on console.


Valve claims that it's more powerful than alot of PC's currently being used but that just means that those people either don't have the money to upgrade their PC, or they're content with what they have and don't need more powerful hardware to play the games that they're currently playing.


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I mean, I agree.

But we still don't know what the price is gonna be.
 
It's a PC. For most people that are interested in a steam machine, xbox and play station aren't even part of the equation. They'll compare it with laptops or other pre builts, which are the platforms that have the things they want.
 
More than 650 and it's dead, Jim.

The recent memory situation will have made it really hard to price this thing right now. If they have units built and in warehouses they can support those units but anything being queued up to be manufactured will be tough to price right now.
 
Sebastian1295 said:
Just spend the 750 dollars or more and upgrade your PC. You're essentially just buying a non customizable and low spec PC in the steam machine and it makes no sense to do so. Your games are going to run worse on this thing than on a PC that's upgraded using the money u would've spent on this to upgrade your rig.


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It's not for people that already have good PC's

It's for people that have no gaming pc and want to get into pc gaming for a low cost
Or people that have really old gaming pc's
 
Especially with only a pathetic 8GB of vram. If it's not priced well than it's going to be bad.

If this thing had 16gb of vram than more people will still be interested even at 750 because they'll have the peace of mind knowing that it has enough vram for the near future and even current more demanding games because there's already some current games that requires more than 8gb of vram on 1080p to run well.
 
BlueManifest said:
It's not for people that already have good PC's

It's for people that have no gaming pc and want to get into pc gaming for a low cost
Or people that have really old gaming pc's
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Even then, it's not worth it. Just save 100-200 more and get a better PC with more ram or better gpu. And for like 1200€ you can have a PC that runs everything at 2k maxed out at a high frame rate using dlss.
 
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Seems like too much.
At that price point I'd rather save up an extra $200 and build something better. And for existing PC users it's also quite expensive as a secondary device.
 
$750???
Might as build build your own with a 5080, 32gb and i9 for ~ $999
Things going to flop so hard. MS will remain king in the living room
 
DoA at $750 and it doesn't how many times people pull up the Steam survey results. People with weaker PCs than this thing don't have the money to pay $750 for an un-upgradable PC, that's why they have shitty PCs in the first place.
 
Impressively detailed source, hard to argue against all that evidence. I mean they have a picture and everything.
 
RafterXL said:
DoA at $750 and it doesn't how many times people pull up the Steam survey results. People with weaker PCs than this thing don't have the money to pay $750 for an un-upgradable PC, that's why they have shitty PCs in the first place.
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Not necessarily, it depends on who its being sold to.

Normies do not know shit about upgrading PC's. Mostly not because they are stupid, but simply because they aren't interested.

They want a box that does stuff. That just works.

Honestly I think some of you guys have been inside the enthusiast bubble so long you've forgotten that there is a whole wide world outside of it, filled with folks who don't think like you do.
 
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Not necessarily, it depends on who its being sold to.

Normies do not know shit about upgrading PC's. Mostly not because they are stupid, but simply because they aren't interested.

They want a box that does stuff. That just works.

Honestly I think some of you guys have been inside the enthusiast bubble so long you've forgotten that there is a whole wide world outside of it, filled with folks who don't think like you do.
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Yea they buy stuff like this and this is horrible compared to steam machine
This is what valve is competing with
 
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DR3AM said:
$750???
Might as build build your own with a 5080, 32gb and i9 for ~ $999
Things going to flop so hard. MS will remain king in the living room
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The cheapest 5080 on Newegg right now is $1070. Amazon has one for $1000, microcenter has one for $980.
Not sure how you are getting an entire build for less than just the GPU.
 
mèx said:
DOA if true. Just buy a PS5 Pro.
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I can see this If Valve didn't secure RAM/SSd contracts. Then they are screwed basically.

So it's better to buy a pre-built with an AMD CPU/GPU for $1k or less at that point and install Bazzite.

Steambox plus:


Steambox Pro:


The second one especially is great ! For the $. I wouldn't wait too long though as price increases will force the pre-built market to go up once inventory sells.
 
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I'm not surprised by how pessimistic GAF is (GAF is usually very critical on anything related to pricing too), but I don't think I can agree.

Even at over $750, Steam has a competitive advantage in how wide its library is and that it would be the only major provider in the space offering free online. A higher price for the unit might pay for itself (barring a price over $1100 or so, comparing to say a PS5 Pro's price + a lifespan of online payments).

Questions like, "Who is this for?" and "Consumers don't think that far ahead," have some validity but the DOA remarks are totally off the mark. We'll see how successful it is (or lack thereof) but by all accounts it will probably be solid hardware with malleable software insides, a PC that can function like a console. I think there's a market for that. I just don't know how big.
 
StereoVsn said:
I can see this If Valve didn't secure RAM/SSd contracts. Then they are screwed basically.

So it's better to buy a pre-built with an AMD CPU/GPU for $1k or less at that point and install Bazzite.

Steambox plus:


Steambox Pro:


The second one especially is great ! For the $. I wouldn't wait too long though as price increases will force the pre-built market to go up once inventory sells.
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Steam machine will likely be less than both of those and a lot smaller, I'm guessing 600
 
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Davevil said:
It doesn't matter, nobody will buy it anyway
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Definitely not literally true, because some number greater than 0 will buy it, but I don't think selling the Steam Machine is what Valve even cares about, they just want to secure their future in a world where Windows is no longer a friendly platform for them or people in general.

Even today, there's a somewhat significant amount of people who would never use Windows for gaming, exponentially more so when you focus on people who game on living room TVs.

Short of Valve releasing Steam on the PS5 or Switch 2, making Steam OS an alternative option for them is their most logical step, for without Windows right now, Valve would basically be stuck on MacOS, which I'm sure isn't ideal for them.
 
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