DarkLordMalik
Member
You will get your Nomura trailer fix with Kingdom Hearts 3. He ain't going to make one for FF XV now.
Stella has been removed from FFXV; Itamuro writing game; Demo 2 June 9; FFXV not @ E3
- Thread starter LiK
- Start date
Since you guys were talking FF14 I have an excuse to post this article I enjoyed reading.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/05/meet-the-man-who-redeemed-final-fantasy
An optimistic quote from Naoki Yoshida:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/05/meet-the-man-who-redeemed-final-fantasy
An optimistic quote from Naoki Yoshida:
DarkLordMalik
Member
His quote makes it sound like FF XVI is already in pre-production
I might have not played FF XIV (to completion) but I love this guy. He bought a lot of respect back to the series Hopefully Tabata does the same and makes FF XV the one of the best FF game
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
yea. but I do think these quotes from 2013 is probably gone too..
Those types of poetry lines were in the XIII trailers too. I think they're just a late-2000s Square Enix trailer trademark. It's not necessarily for the game.
qualitydisc
Member
Thanks for posting that. First Tabata and now Yoshida are saying FFXV is a standalone title. Does that mean "World of the Versus Epic" (which we assumed to mean sequels/spinoffs) is dead?
DarkLordMalik
Member
World of Versus Epic was long dead after E3. I remember Kagari stating as much back when it was revealed at TGS.
I don't think we are going to get sequels but if FF XV is popular enough, we will get spin-offs based on the characters.
BossDarkseid
Member
If Yoshida wasn't busy with xiv and ito with xvi (I'm half in dreamland)then I'd love to see him direct a sp mainline title.
I wonder if they'd ever go for a lower budget title that also releases on the NX in a few years.
I wonder if they'd ever go for a lower budget title that also releases on the NX in a few years.
Yea World of the Versus Epic is dead for sure now.
I remember SE trademarked that thing lol.
I might have not played FF XIV (to completion) but I love this guy. He bought a lot of respect back to the series Hopefully Tabata does the same and makes FF XV the one of the best FF game
Yoshida is a really cool ,respectable and likeable person ,but so is Tabata!
I think Tabata delivered much more than talk since he came to lead FFXV.
Regular updates and an actual playable demo happened.Not to mention there is a tremendous amount of effort being poured into the game.
I think its fully within a director's rights to change or adjust a game as he sees fit.The result will be more cohesive and authentic this way.
qualitydisc
Member
yea. but I do think these quotes from 2013 is probably gone too..
This is just my speculation but....... we know that Noctis still has some kind of "power from the stars" that lets him control summons (mentioned in Japanese magazines late last year). Whether or not this is the same as his "eyes that see expiring souls" power aka "gift from Etro" that he shared with Stella (RIP), who knows. I don't.
i don't want to live on this planet anymore.gif
The real question is, how many babies this year will be named Stella Nox Fleuret
qualitydisc
Member
Yep, was going to mention that. As seen in the very first 2006 (or 2007?) trailer.
But Tabata is destroying Nomura's vision u guyze
Nomura did mention back in 2013 that his eye turning red was related to his warping ability. But in Duscae it seems it's related to the summon (and power of the star)
I wonder if this is one of the element that was changed.
lol
Nomura made it sound like the eyes were only for magic. Which is kinda weird. We haven't really seen those eyes being used for any story purposes yet.
Honestly, the whole red eyes thing is something that'll be either a huge hit or a miss. My fanfic goes that Noctis can use this power to sense the death of others but can't do anything to stop it.
longdi
Banned
Haven't been keeping tracks on FF games since how super sucky FF13 was, but can someone explain how did a thread about changing a character in a still in-development game managed to get so many pages?
I still think boyband roadtrip FF15 looks awkward and i bet the writing and core story would still be a silly, convoluted mess like FF13, with all the crazy names and terms.
I still think boyband roadtrip FF15 looks awkward and i bet the writing and core story would still be a silly, convoluted mess like FF13, with all the crazy names and terms.
If we did that every time someone asked the thread would be twice as long.
Funny how it works out D:
Yeah, I see XV as a potentially very good game. One they can build off of.
Final Fantasy doesn't just need "redeeming". It needs to evolve while maintaining the spirit of the series.
We haven't seen them since 2013, I think that's a pretty good reason to think that they are gone.
The narrative poetry style was a theme for Versus XIII up until 2013 but that's just looking at the trailers.
Imo we never had information on whether or not the lyrical style was to be implemented into the final game.
Nomura said he wanted to make Versus XIII a musical at one point so you could argue that almost happened. Heh.
LOL. Maybe this was the reason he left. Square Enix didn't agree with the musical idea. /gossip
But yeah, Nomura trailers were awesomesauce.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
I am pretty salty about some of the original concepts being tossed out, but at the same time, I'd rather Tabata not try to hamfist his own direction into concepts he didn't decide on in the first place. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and let him do his own thing without getting upset about it.
I think everyone involved is striving to find a good balance. That's what they have been communicating so far. So what you said sounds very reasonable to me.
There's a serious amount of work being put into the game.I think we can all look forward to something substantial out of FFXV.
E3 2013 was unreal. Especially the beginning part of it with the grass and the strings music.
I think many people were almost brought to tears when they saw that reveal :v
I'm fine with that. He probably would've made every character each other's rival, mandated there be a half-baked, unsupported, local-only multiplayer mode, make 13 playable characters who serve 13 different factions governed by 13 gods powered by 13 capital C Crystals, who must ultimately learn to forge new memories together before feelings and time are eradicated or something by the 13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo.
I've always believed Nomura is best suited for the hyper imaginative types of story's like KH. Hell, he probably would have made a better XIII than what we got.
Personally, I don't think he'd have delivered on Versus the way some imagine. Obviously we'll never know but XV seems to be in good hands with Tabata.
Personally, I don't think he'd have delivered on Versus the way some imagine. Obviously we'll never know but XV seems to be in good hands with Tabata.
ayy lmao. This makes it sound like Nomura stories are a bad thing.
EatChildren Courtesy!
Yeah, i'd actually love the plot to be more grounded, political themed (which is kinda what it points to), like FFXII.
Tabata has a record with Type-0, where the war between elements was good, but it got slaughtered by the remaining shit. Hope he can improve on that.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Nomura is best suited for directing trailers that hype the shit out of gullible fanboys with sprinkles of pretentious latin key phrases to never ever releasing it, leaving the project to someone else who became a scapegoat for trying to salvage the vaporware and actually make a game with proper closure and readied to be shipped within a realistic time frame.
Don't kill me. ;_;
Liquid_015
Gold Member
I honestly wonder, whether or not the current changes mentioned in the recent ATR were after the debut of the E3 2013 trailer (i.e. when SE rebranded Versus as FFXV). On another note, what would Luna's casual wear be outside of the white dress shown in the trailer - personally, it would be awesome to see Luna in "Stella's" attire in 2006/07.
It's 100% after the E3 2013 trailer.
Liquid_015
Gold Member
Damn. You're right. Since there's a scene of Noctis in his suit, and we were all told by Tabata that the party scene has been cut from the game.
Also, if you read the dialogues from the E3 2013 trailer carefully, it's all from the invasion of Lucis (although most of the actual clip takes place from Accordo.
Liquid_015
Gold Member
Sigh. And I was hoping, that some parts of the trailer were still in game but we wouldn't know until we've played the final product.
ayy lmao. This makes it sound like Nomura stories are a bad thing."You know nothing, Games Cook."
EatChildren Courtesy!
Lumina was fun...
Such haterz. >
Earthpainting
Member
It's a futile thing to think about, since we don't know what Versus XIII was morphing into before the change to FFXV. It's been in the oven for so long, it's just as likely that many of the changes we hear of today were already decided under Nomura's direction. When the game was stuck into pre-production limbo, you've got a lot of time to retool the fundamentals in drastic ways.
Stone cold.
Stella was definitely redesigned under Nomura's direction.
Luna's current design is definitely the same one that Stella would've used,had Nomura been director.
This design was dumped long ago,even by Nomura.
Oh I know Stella was redesigned by Nomura. He said that himself in the interview. I was talking about the actual changes of contents from E3 trailer (car scene, insomnia stuff)
Alex_Mexico
Member
I'm super bummed FFXV will be skipping the second E3 in a row after the 2013 reveal.
They better be bringing the KH3 guns then. Unlike FFXV which has been shown a couple times since the initial reveal, we haven't seen shit about KH3 since 2013.
They better be bringing the KH3 guns then. Unlike FFXV which has been shown a couple times since the initial reveal, we haven't seen shit about KH3 since 2013.
I don't think we'll see KHIII yet. The D23 expo will probably be the first time we see this. I expect all of E3 from SE to be Western focused games, and HD remaster announcements.
They are gonna be at Gamescom in August so you won't have to wait for long. Depending on where I am I might attend :3
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I fear (or rather soberly expect) that you are correct.
Just what a shame that there wouldn't be a big Japan studio Square game at their first E3 press conference
Guys, but what if they announce Chrono 3 for next gen- STOP IT inner child, just stop it
Might settle for XII HD, tho.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I actually like the XIII games to a certain degree. They're pretty, anyway, and would look great in higher res. But it's way too soon for me to care.
Yabberwocky
Member
I was channel surfing today, only to see How Stella Got Her Grove Back on one of the movie channels, followed by 'Stella' on one of the UK ones. Ouch. I just needed A Streetcar Named Desire for the perfect heartbreaking trinity. Too soon.
At any rate, I'm curious to see Luna in action. C'mon, Gamescom!
At any rate, I'm curious to see Luna in action. C'mon, Gamescom!
donutzsick
Member
If that e3 2013 trailer was also nomura... I'm legit way sadder for the future of 15. I know it's silly of me but cool trailers get me so excited