Yeah, and the cool thing about the free updates is that modders can use those improvements to further add to the game; take the artifact system coming with M&M - most of the Paradox-made ones will be in the paid DLC, but the system itself is part of the free update. This means modders can use it to add proper items that previously may have existed as traits and thus cluttered the trait screen.
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Stellaris |OT| Imperium Universalis
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Yeah, and the cool thing about the free updates is that modders can use those improvements to further add to the game; take the artifact system coming with M&M - most of the Paradox-made ones will be in the paid DLC, but the system itself is part of the free update. This means modders can use it to add proper items that previously may have existed as traits and thus cluttered the trait screen.
LurkerPrime
Member
I have the same issue, but fortunately I ordered from Amazon so I'll probably get it a week later or something.
Hooray Amazon!
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
Quite a few paradox expansions have arguably not been worth the full asking price day one, but that's ok because you don't have to pay for it to get some benefits and eventually it will be heavily discounted. I don't buy every expansion on launch if I'm not satisfied with what's on offer, but I do buy them 6-12 months down the line when they're going for 4.99 instead of 19.99.
TheVoidDragon
Member
That's understandable and I'll be doing the same, it's just my main issue is what the overcharging implies about their approach to the whole thing in the first place rather than the actual cost to myself.
If the paid content of Leviathan and Utopia had been packed into one expansion at around $15 instead, i wouldn't have much of a problem with that.
CertifiedFP
Member
Might as well call Utopia the Grand Strategy Update IMO.
Now to play CK2 while I wait.
Now to play CK2 while I wait.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Not yet. This is an important step in the right direction, especially in terms of differentiating empires, but we won't be there all the way until at least they fix diplomacy.
With all the new ways to specialize and funnel empires into paths they have a great grid to work on Diplo going forward because of this.
Poodlestrike
Banned
They do, but it's not there yet
I'd also like to see trade considerably fleshed out before I call it the "grand strategy update." Espionage too.
I don't usually buy Paradox's dlc at full price when I feel they're not doing something that will changed the core of the game. However the upcoming Bank update and Utopia expansion do great amount of changes to the nation state roleplay element that it justify for me to buy at full price. Of course it's not helping that I weak with grand space game like this and regional pricing practically makes it priced at $10.
LurkerPrime
Member
I think you mean
Didn't notice that they get their own set of civics, which is cool beans. Paradox is watching over me.
I just want it to be out already!
[Zerg intensifies]
Didn't notice that they get their own set of civics, which is cool beans. Paradox is watching over me.
I just want it to be out already!
TheVoidDragon
Member
I think you mean
[Zerg intensifies]
Didn't notice that they get their own set of civics, which is cool beans. Paradox is watching over me.
I just want it to be out already!
Considering what he said was a W40K reference, Tyranids would be more appropriate there than the Zerg.
A completely organic (not the plant one) race pack would be interesting to see, it would fit in quite well with that.
One Foul Note
Member
Yeah, being able to devolve an entire species into cattle is a level of either zero empathy or unquestionable wickedness that it is difficult for me to process. Can't wait to do it, thumbs up!
But is it worse to just grow them for food, or grow them for food and modify them not to complain about it 🤔
Poodlestrike
Banned
I feel like the former is worse from a utilitarian happiness view, and the latter is worse from a basic principles one.
Oh, hadn't seen that the OT for this game is active. Guess I'll drop here and say hi to you all.
Lately Stellaris has become the go-to-game for me and a group of friends. At the beginning we were like 3 different people, but not we are up to (if everybody joins) 5. For some co-op fun I'd say 3 was the sweet spot though. When there is so many people the game becomes a bit too easy. I certainly appreciate that the game was a bit on the simpler side, since most of us weren't too much into strategy games, so this has been quite noob friendly.
I'm sure I'm going to delve into more complex games though. One of my friends and I have bought the latest Civilization bundle.
I've been messing around alone too, ofc. In general, I'd say I love the different stories that can emerge while you play. The game is not perfect, but it seem to be getting better with each Update and, after buying both the game and Leviathan during a sale, I think I'm buying Utopia day one.
All those changes to ethics and race customization look great
Lately Stellaris has become the go-to-game for me and a group of friends. At the beginning we were like 3 different people, but not we are up to (if everybody joins) 5. For some co-op fun I'd say 3 was the sweet spot though. When there is so many people the game becomes a bit too easy. I certainly appreciate that the game was a bit on the simpler side, since most of us weren't too much into strategy games, so this has been quite noob friendly.
I'm sure I'm going to delve into more complex games though. One of my friends and I have bought the latest Civilization bundle.
I've been messing around alone too, ofc. In general, I'd say I love the different stories that can emerge while you play. The game is not perfect, but it seem to be getting better with each Update and, after buying both the game and Leviathan during a sale, I think I'm buying Utopia day one.
All those changes to ethics and race customization look great
That's right. You can also eat them to extinction.
I'm looking forward to the War Goal for stopping a civ from eating other species.
There's already a "Stop Atrocities" wargoal.
That only stops them for 10 years, doesn't it?
I always use it because it's cheap and probably fucks up mineral production between wars, and by the time I attack the empire again pops are already enslaved.
Sarcastic Poster
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How has this developed since release? I remember it being very bare-bones at release and people complaining about the endgame.
midasmulligan
Member
Frankly, it's still for all intents and purposes, bare bones. The next update Utopia, however, should add some real meat to dig into.
They introduced some events for midgame and are now finalizing the first big(ish) expansion that revamps internal politics, adds a new mechanic called Unity and three progression paths at the endgame. Oh and hivemind empires and eating other sentients. So in April you can eat the galaxy empty of other sentient species. Nom nom nom.
Or a materialist empire can shed the frailty of flesh and become one with the machine.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Completely random side note, but I've always felt that this thread title missed an opportunity by not going with Universalis Universalis. Because... It's conquering the universe, instead of Europe...
Alright, alright.
Alright, alright.
Sarcastic Poster
Member
Hmmmm, seems like I'll stick to CKII at the moment then, and I'm still missing lots of DLC for that.
Monks and Mystics will be the bomb!
Look at the bright side! The game is simple enough for a new audience to start getting into Paradox games. I think it's the first game of its kind I've played.
Are there any mods worth checking that aren't very taxing with system resources? I've been looking for some information, and there that's something people don't talk about often. But I'm playing in my laptop and the CPU is not that good.
I still feel like it should have been called Making space games great again!
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
I'm still bitter I lost out with "Fellowships of the Ringworld".
All hail the blorg
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
Would the plantoids pack be worth it for around $4-$5?
Paradox sale on humble and I have the monthly discount as well.
🤔
Might just save my money though. Already bought Leviathans before.
Paradox sale on humble and I have the monthly discount as well.
🤔
Might just save my money though. Already bought Leviathans before.
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Deleted member 231381
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That's not how Latin works. That just means "to the World to the World".
One Foul Note
Member
I honestly probably wouldn't recommend it for you. The new portraits and ship designs are cool, but they are quite slight in the overall picture of the game and unless you are super invested in Stellaris and the concept of new portraits (and it sounds like you are a little on the fence) then I don't think they are really worth it. If you are getting Utopia at release I could see the appeal more due to the fact that once that dlc drops everyone is starting a new race, but otherwise I would just save your money.
Ooooh look at me, I'm Crab, I play Mafia and speak Laaaaaaaaaatin.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's not Latin, it's Canis Latinicus.
I always hated the inability to change the room backrounds without changing ethics, so that'll be nice. Then there's this:
Agri-worlds finally make sense.
Dunno. Could be based on habitability on top of available food. What's also interesting is the screenshot that shows different food stockpiling policies. There could be a cost to stockpiling and distributing food.
Smaller stockpile -> faster growth
But if you lose your agri-worlds or they get blockaded in a war, you want a big stockpile so your empire doesn't starve for the time it takes to fix that.
Wiz is doing an AMA over at r/4xgaming if anyone wants to ask some questions.
LurkerPrime
Member
There was a new Dev Diary that I completely missed, about music. Adreas Waldetoft gave a little behind-the-scenes info and two music samples from the expansion:
and also a track list for the xpac:
The update also mentioned a new free feature for everyone: a music player. (Plus a hint for what's to come at the bottom!)
hyppeeee
and also a track list for the xpac:
The update also mentioned a new free feature for everyone: a music player. (Plus a hint for what's to come at the bottom!)
The Music Player (Free Feature)
Thank you Andreas! I also wanted to touch briefly on the Music Player. The Music Player is an in-game tool that allows you to browse the music tracks available in the game and pick specific tracks you want to listen to. It also allows you to set which tracks should be on your playlist, whether they should play sequentially or use random shuffle, and also lets you go back to previously played tracks and skip forward to the next track. In other words... it's a music player, exactly as it says on the tin.
Finally, I'll leave you with a cryptic little note: There's something special that's been added to the audio for Banks by none other than our Audio Director, Björn Iversen, himself. Keep your eyes peeled for it in the patch notes...
That's all for now! Next week we'll start wrapping up the Utopia/Banks dev diaries by talking about colored ships and a few other tidbits.
hyppeeee
One Foul Note
Member
What, I missed that one too and I was checking the forums only yesterday. Good feature to put in for sure. Their are now enough tunes in the game it is nice to have some control as to what plays.
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Deleted member 286591
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This game is overwhelming. Bought it day one and still can't bring myself to start it. Even though I want to.