Steph Curry Supernova

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Gully State said:
I don't disagree with you but it's just more that the shots they take are so ingrained in them at this point I dunno if it's something that easy to simply change.
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yeah that's true but for golden state and their type of offense I feel like passing up a decent shot for a better shot should be ingrained in them more so than forcing something up. especially with all that time left.
 
B.O.O.M said:
lol fuck that ..Portland is a really good team. You don't accomplish what they did without being a good team. What they lack is experience and a good defensive big man.

And no they really weren't fucking around..what is this bs?..if Curry didn't go ape shit and if Portland didn't shit the bed completely in game 2 we would be looking at a different state of things that series. Without curry going full curry mode that team not that great is the reality and some just don't seem to accept it for whatever reason
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This Portland team 2-3 years ago wouldn't even sniff the playoffs. They are East-good.
 
Red Blaster said:
blazers were giftwrapped a series after clippers were reduced to jj redick being their best player and then were pasted by a mostly stephen curryless warrior squad. portland had a mediocre ass .8 point differential--only the 8th seed pistons and rockets (btw literally the worst playoff team ive ever seen) were worse.

they got by because lillard is a great (if streaky) offensive talent but they're absolute asscrap on defense and wouldn't have gotten as far as they did if the western conference wasn't garbage this year.
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Lol yes it was git wrapped in the end but that series was not a given to the clippers even if they were healthy! Blazers were actually ahead in the 4th game before CP got injured.

And you are being intentionally obtuse and reductive. They were not pasted at all jesus did you even watch that series? Blazers actually led a lot if not most quarters in that series. The inexperience and lack of post defense lost them at least two games in the 4th Q.

And pls don't tell me you are actually putting the eastern conference teams much ahead of Portland? lmfao. The Eastern conference finalist Raptors bst scoring duo were absolute trash for majority of the playoffs and still they are in the finals. That's how bad the east is. Raptors-Heat was one of the worst playoff series to watch in the recent decade. If Lebron's team loses they should bloody ashamed because so far it has been a cake walk to the conference finals. East is still a joke (less of a joke than last year but still a joke nontheless)

True Savior said:
This Portland team 2-3 years ago wouldn't even sniff the playoffs.
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Now we going back in time now. I say this team would have made the playoffs 2-3 years ago too...now what? You have some magical way to prove your point or prove mine wrong? lol Because I tell u this much, the starting 5 isn't as good as the Blazer's starting five last two years, but the bench is MILES better. Bench is one of the main reasons Blazers lost many games last couple of years.
 
B.O.O.M said:
And you are being intentionally obtuse and reductive. They were not pasted at all jesus did you even watch that series? Blazers actually led a lot if not most quarters in that series. The inexperience and lack of post defense lost them at least two games in the 4th Q.
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losing a series in 5 is a pasting-- especially one that includes a laughably embarrassing ot display as a hobbled stephen curry singlehandedly sends a team packing

And pls don't tell me you are actually putting the eastern conference teams much ahead of Portland? lmfao. The Eastern conference finalist Raptors bst scoring duo were absolute trash for majority of the playoffs and still they are in the finals. That's how bad the east is. Raptors-Heat was one of the worst playoff series to watch in the recent decade. If Lebron's team loses they should bloody ashamed because so far it has been a cake walk to the conference finals. East is still a joke (less of a joke than last year but still a joke nontheless)
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your paucity of basic basketball knowledge is embarrassing, thank goodness people like me who know what theyre talking about are here to inform you

the western conference literally has two teams with negative point differentials in the playoffs, that's absolutely pathetic. this includes a memphis team that lost something like 10 in a row going into the final stretch. if we look at stats like srs, portland is ranked 13th and are behind every eastern conference playoff team except the 8th seed pistons.

get some facts and try again.
 
Expecting the Warriors to come out in game 2 hard. Okc should come out like they are down 3 0 and thier life depends on it. They should be working most hard on defense and get a lead at half and rest in the third. Imo this is the most important game for them if they are to win the series. Going back to ok with a 2 0 lead will benefit them more than anything. That's a big mental game.

If gs wins game two then it's going to change things a bit going into games 3 and 4.

I felt gs were handling them pretty well in the first half and the 4th is usually thier strong point. The coaches really need to find a way to get guys fresh for the last five minutes in the 4th against gs.
 
This is a weird series. Basically OKC has two megastars, but they are coached by a buffoon, so they rarely play a solid 48 minutes and have to rely on one of the superstars to go crazy and just take over the game. That's more likely to happen at their home court. Meanwhile GS is a little banged up and hasn't played to regular season standards. Curry might be on/off depending how his knee is feeling at gametime.

Still funny that this is the first so called "test" in two years for GS. It used to be you had to fight and claw to make it out of the West, no more. Last year they played nobody and Cavs were hurt. And now Cavs (again) walk straight into the Finals against three JV teams.

Just looked for reference and took the expansion year and the year after that: In 95-96, the East 8th seed had Tim Hardaway and Alonzo Mourning. In 96-97 the 8th seed had Juwan Howard, Chris Webber and Rod Strickland. Transfer either of those teams to today, I have hard time believing they'd be the 8th seed in the current East. Such an incredible amount of bad and mediocre teams (and players).
 
The 2nd tier of East playoff teams are better than the West's 2nd tier. At the very least comparable.

The West has 3 elite teams though to the East's one.
 
Azih said:
The 2nd tier of East playoff teams are better than the West's 2nd tier. At the very least comparable.

The West has 3 elite teams though to the East's one.
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nah Portland and healthy Grizz/Clippers are better than anybody in the East besides the Cavs and a healthy Heat. the Raptors and the rest of the conference aint shit.
 
Azih said:
The 2nd tier of East playoff teams are better than the West's 2nd tier. At the very least comparable.

The West has 3 elite teams though to the East's one.
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The East is a pile of shit. Clippers would sweep most of those teams with a healthy team. Craptors might also be the worst conference finals team of all time on top of playing some of the worst ball I've seen at the playoffs (almost every East series which I stopped watching after their first few games)

Only Cavs plays attractive ball from that awful conference.
 
Azih said:
Raptors play ugly ball that's for sure but they had a winning record against the West.
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In regular season yeah. The Blazers would probably beat those losers. The East has never been so garbage in the playoffs. Some of the worst basketball I've seen during PO. And no it's not effective. It's just bad in every way.
 
To be fair, I do think this would be a different postseason if Miami and Toronto were healthy. Not that the Cavs wouldn't still go to the finals, but Miami with a healthy Bosh and Whiteside and Toronto with Jonas, Caroll and and Lowry healthy would probably be better tests for Cleveland.
 
DasPenguin said:
This is a weird series. Basically OKC has two megastars, but they are coached by a buffoon, so they rarely play a solid 48 minutes and have to rely on one of the superstars to go crazy and just take over the game. That's more likely to happen at their home court. Meanwhile GS is a little banged up and hasn't played to regular season standards. Curry might be on/off depending how his knee is feeling at gametime.

Still funny that this is the first so called "test" in two years for GS. It used to be you had to fight and claw to make it out of the West, no more. Last year they played nobody and Cavs were hurt. And now Cavs (again) walk straight into the Finals against three JV teams.

Just looked for reference and took the expansion year and the year after that: In 95-96, the East 8th seed had Tim Hardaway and Alonzo Mourning. In 96-97 the 8th seed had Juwan Howard, Chris Webber and Rod Strickland. Transfer either of those teams to today, I have hard time believing they'd be the 8th seed in the current East. Such an incredible amount of bad and mediocre teams (and players).
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it's patently obvious that tobias harris is a vastly better basketball player than 1997 juwan howard. reggie jackson is on par with rod strickland, reggie's a much better scorer too since rod couldn't hit 3s. and you'd give the edge to webber over drummond but the gap isn't super enormous and andre is a solid player.

thank god i'm not a nostalgia addled fanboy. next you're gonna use the first run tmc squad winning only 37 games as evidence of how stacked the league was back then. that team gave up almost 120 ppg on defense.

LegendofDragoonLives said:
The East is a pile of shit. Clippers would sweep most of those teams with a healthy team. Craptors might also be the worst conference finals team of all time on top of playing some of the worst ball I've seen at the playoffs (almost every East series which I stopped watching after their first few games)

Only Cavs plays attractive ball from that awful conference.
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DominoKid said:
nah Portland and healthy Grizz/Clippers are better than anybody in the East besides the Cavs and a healthy Heat. the Raptors and the rest of the conference aint shit.
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LegendofDragoonLives said:
In regular season yeah. The Blazers would probably beat those losers. The East has never been so garbage in the playoffs. Some of the worst basketball I've seen during PO. And no it's not effective. It's just bad in every way.
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exhibits a-c on why nbagaf is moribund

azih posts a factual statement and then we get boorish stephen a smith-tier rebuttals from rubes who think defense is boring.

trash defenses like the blazers would get absolutely blasted by every team in the east.
 
Red Blaster said:
it's patently obvious that tobias harris is a vastly better basketball player than 1997 juwan howard. reggie jackson is on par with rod strickland, reggie's a much better scorer too since rod couldn't hit 3s. and you'd give the edge to webber over drummond but the gap isn't super enormous and andre is a solid player.

thank god i'm not a nostalgia addled fanboy. next you're gonna use the first run tmc squad winning only 37 games as evidence of how stacked the league was back then. that team gave up almost 120 ppg on defense.







exhibits a-c on why nbagaf is moribund

azih posts a factual statement and then we get boorish stephen a smith-tier rebuttals from rubes who think defense is boring.

trash defenses like the blazers would get absolutely blasted by every team in the east.
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What facts make the East better exactly? Doing good during regular season doesn't mean shit, otherwise you wouldn't have every single person looking at Cavs Craptors as a sweep or at worst a 5 game series. The east play awful team ball, bad isos and hero balls with no actual stars outside of PG and Cav's team. I think one of the games with pacers and toronto offered some of the worst attempts at hero ball I had seen. I think either 0 or 1 assist from both teams because they tried to do too much in the worst way possible for 5-7 minutes. Low score affair. This wasn't some elite defensive set ups, but awful plays. Even the Craptors who had a massive lead almost blew it one game because they played not to lose every single possession almost blowing a huge lead in the 4th in another game.

Blazers have an awful defense but there's no elite defensive teams in the East, esp not pretenders like Hawks that dwarf under pressure once playoffs start. They're awful teams to watch, I wouldn't be surprised if the ratings are far worse for the East then the West.

Blazers play an outgunning style and would take most awful East teams this year. Heat and Craptors would most likely beat them though and that's about it.

Fjordson said:
To be fair, I do think this would be a different postseason if Miami and Toronto were healthy. Not that the Cavs wouldn't still go to the finals, but Miami with a healthy Bosh and Whiteside and Toronto with Jonas, Caroll and and Lowry healthy would probably be better tests for Cleveland.
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I agree with Miami. I think they would make it a fun 6 game series, on top of seeing Wade vs Lebron. As for Craptors, I don't think so. Lowry has always been a playoff loser, and I don't think injuries is the reason why he's so awful.
 
im sorry but the regular season and the playoffs are just a different beast. it's a different game playing different teams every night with little time to adjust/prep vs playing the same team night after night or a week or 2.

toronto would get the shit kicked out of them in the west playoffs. and they would've gotten the same from the heat with a healthy bosh and whiteside. they got taken to the limit by a 1 man pacers show and a crippled heat team ffs. i remain unimpressed by them.
 
Man, this game is showing just how many deficiencies Stephen has when he regresses to the mean and stops making 40 ft Jimmer 3s at a statistically unsustainable rate.
 
Curry does not look healthy at all, but they can't rest him. Dude clearly can't move at full speed, which is why he can't even finish at the rim.
 
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