schroddycat
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I shorted Zillow few days ago to ready some bullets for going long on BABA. But BABA has more dowside risk that I can swallow now. I'll scrap my plan for intraday BABA trading, just too unpredictable.
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I shorted Zillow few days ago to ready some bullets for going long on BABA. But BABA has more dowside risk that I can swallow now. I'll scrap my plan for intraday BABA trading, just too unpredictable.
PartlyCloudlike
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Yeah I'm definitely learning my lesson :\
if it's any consolation, both twtr and fb are both higher now than they were at the IPO; just gonna have to be patient, I guess.
then again, it might be 100 next week
just keep an eye on it to take any opportunity to exit with profit or even
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Thanks I'm going to take your suggestion to heart. I feel a *little* better that BABA managed a mini rally towards the end there and get over $93, but we'll see next week. When it fell under $90 I was really getting nervous about a major day 1 pullback.
Yeah, it was looking like it was going to break through 90 and keep dropping, I'm glad for your sake it didn't.
Like I said, stay alert next week, I'm sure you'll be able to exit above 96 at some point if you aren't 100% sure on a long position.
if this had been a disaster, I could've seen this marking the beginning of the end for this bull run, but as the saying goes, nothing stops this train (as irrational as many valuations are).
I'm just a tad salty that they delayed the start for so long, this could've opened much lower with a higher chance of gains if they had started trades at 10:30. Bankers always have to rob us poor bagholders, every single time.
I'm still somewhat new to investing, but energy stocks have been very good. Despite everything that's happened globally, it keeps going up. I'm so awed by their success that I'm hesitant to put my money anywhere else. Because I have everything in one basket, it's definitely making me nervous; I sold earlier in the year and ended up missing out. Chalk it up to newbie jitters. I know I should diversify. I'm thinking aerospace, but it's awfully high priced.
I know you're never supposed to read Internet comments, but I can't help but glance through Yahoo Finance comments every once in a while. Goodness, it's like every article is a moon landing hoax truther video 0_o.
Is there a place outside of this thread that's sensible about investment discussion?
I usually go to
investorshub.com
and stocktwits.com
but please only use it for entertainment value and some occasional good due diligence. there's really no one out there to be trusted, in my experience.
I browse the yahoo boards as well, but they have really gone down the crapper; they are mostly a whine fest between longs and shorts and no end to the name calling and ridiculous predictions. investorshub too, to a lesser extent.
No one can be trusted. You have Wolves in Sheeps clothing and sheep in wolves clothing. People solely exist on these forums to push their investment agendas.
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Motley Fool tends to have some good articles. No discussion for me outside of GAF though.
Edit: and down we go.
Edit: and down we go.
The Power Of Snap
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Let slugger hit your portfolio!
Let slugger hit your portfolio!
PartlyCloudlike
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Anyone have insight into today's tech pullback?
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NASDAQ is always more volatile than the DOW and S&P.
The Power Of Snap
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Slugger's revenge
Ether_Snake
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What a shit week.
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DDD sure has fallen. SSYS on the other hand is doing great. I'm half-half invested in both so I'm even pretty much. Still I think DDD at this price is a good entry point.
NKE was up 12% Friday. I sold some time ago, I guess it was dumb to think that UA would eat away at Nike's profits when it's more likely that Adidas will be the one to be hit. We'll see.
edit: Ford's price makes me want to buy some.
NKE was up 12% Friday. I sold some time ago, I guess it was dumb to think that UA would eat away at Nike's profits when it's more likely that Adidas will be the one to be hit. We'll see.
edit: Ford's price makes me want to buy some.
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What a shit week, again.
toxicgonzo
Taxes?! Isn't this the line for Metallica?
Ebola related stock going up.
TKMR
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BCRX
TKMR
SRPT
BCRX
Throw LAKE in there as well. They manufacture hazmat suits.
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http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/oct/02/global-economic-recovery-weak-imf-lagarde
Lagarde pretty much said the world needs to start investing massively to boost growth, but she can't say it.
We all know we need global infrastructure spending, and the best way to make the most of it is bold renewable energy projects and new public transportation systems; rebuild the world for the 21st century. But the IMF apparently can't tell the world governments to do that, it would be promoting "socialism" and "keynesian economics".
Lagarde pretty much said the world needs to start investing massively to boost growth, but she can't say it.
We all know we need global infrastructure spending, and the best way to make the most of it is bold renewable energy projects and new public transportation systems; rebuild the world for the 21st century. But the IMF apparently can't tell the world governments to do that, it would be promoting "socialism" and "keynesian economics".
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Not sure about Tesla's supposed self-driving additions to their model(s). Is it in high demand? Seems to me at this stage Tesla would still want to have its luxury image. Unless the features appear revolutionary to the general public, making the cars look like a technological step ahead of the others.
Tesla's market cap is more than half of Ford's. I have faith in Musk, but I still can't bring myself to buy Tesla at this price.
Tesla's market cap is more than half of Ford's. I have faith in Musk, but I still can't bring myself to buy Tesla at this price.
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Yeah it happens sometimes.
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Melon Husk
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Solars have been beaten down pretty badly. Must be the oil... Kandi made a nice recovery today. Not participating in the biotech roulette.
@Ether_Snake The longterm target was GM's market cap 2 years ago. That comes around to $350. I came to the same conclusion independently, but I thought it would take 10 years, not 3. After we reach that, I have no idea.
There's a H&S in play, we'll see how it goes this and next week. I'll write a convincing post someday.
@Ether_Snake The longterm target was GM's market cap 2 years ago. That comes around to $350. I came to the same conclusion independently, but I thought it would take 10 years, not 3. After we reach that, I have no idea.
There's a H&S in play, we'll see how it goes this and next week. I'll write a convincing post someday.
Careful. Dr. Kim is sort of a pumper. Also did a reverse split. I don't like the games they're playing
If you check out INO also take a look at NVAX
My guess is that orders were contingent on yield and quality. It's clear Apple wanted to use sapphire on more than just the apple watch. Rumors suggest they missed being in the iPhone's by a couple of weeks.
Who knows, Apple will buy a portion or all of the company at some point.
Also sounds like they are changing a lot of their business to production instead of selling furnaces.
I might jump on a thousand shares just for S&Gs. Worst case scenario is I lose 800 bucks. But upside is stock will recover as they and apple work out production links and start shipping the watch.
Isn't the word right now that the company will be fine but shareholders will get completely screwed? I wouldn't touch that stock with a 100-foot pole until we know more about its capital structure post-bankruptcy
They owe a bunch of money to Apple but they have no way of repaying them if Apple isn't purchasing their sapphire. They're fucked. The stock will get delisted.
Good read on the situation: http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfei...at-raise-money-when-you-can/?partner=yahootix
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And here we go, 0% return on my portfolio this year.
Ouch. Yeah today went in dry.
I'm still up ~5.5% for the year, but it definitely looked better at the end of August
I'm buying extra this week as some of my ETFs approach or bounce around their 200 day MA. Feels so much better to buy on weeks like this vs. buying when the market has been up for months, especially stuff that pays dividends. Wish I had more money available. Might sell some bonds later this week if things continue down to open up some more cash.
anonymous_abc
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Yea, buying ETFs automatically each month makes me feel good about market drops, because I'm all like 'yea I'll be buying stock soon and they are cheap' ;p
Darn, energy's down so much and I don't have the cash on hand to take advantage of it. Probably won't have enough to make a good buy until January.
Oil prices will likely have stabilized by then, but my company's already slowing down our drilling schedule. Feel bad for those Bakken prospectors who were hoping for $8 natural gas.
Oil prices will likely have stabilized by then, but my company's already slowing down our drilling schedule. Feel bad for those Bakken prospectors who were hoping for $8 natural gas.
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Problem is, unless you get major increases in available income to invest, your regular investments are increasingly less meaningful. If you have 100k invested, and now at the start of the month you have 2k to invest, it will do very little in terms of averaging, which gives more weight to the variances that occured early on when you had a smaller sum invested than later. You'd need to be able to keep a consistency between the growth of your investment and how much you contribute each month.
edit: DDD getting shorted like mad, it's fallen so much.
toxicgonzo
Taxes?! Isn't this the line for Metallica?
Oh boy, it's just another one of those days.
Worst hit is AMD because their CEO is being replaced in the week before the next earnings report.
Worst hit is AMD because their CEO is being replaced in the week before the next earnings report.
Melon Husk
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...Take a look at LAKE again. Could we actually recover today? What do you think? Wait for confirmation next week if you want less risk. Watchlist: TNA RUT VIX and of course solars.
Yeah I'm seeing a situation like what happened to DGLY and the st louis police brutality situation, it gets overbought for a while then a slow descent starts when people realize ebola isn't a big deal (hopefully). i wouldn't take a chance on it either.
I see people weren't impressed by the D either (tsla). MBLY took a hit due to that too.
ATVI's taken another big hit, but with their market cap, i stil expect them to continue falling a bit more.
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Walgreen is the only thing I own that has been doing fine while markets were tanking, along with CAE doing alright.
I bought Walgreen after it tanked recently when they canceled their tax scheme, since I think the market's reaction was dumb.
I bought Walgreen after it tanked recently when they canceled their tax scheme, since I think the market's reaction was dumb.
welp, there goes LAKE again...up over 15% in pre-market
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