Does Necalli still have 2 charge moves in this build? Or is it updated?
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Does Necalli still have 2 charge moves in this build? Or is it updated?
Well Gief can combo EX SPD's, so I don't think you can block that.
I get why you would do it, balance wise, because gief will have a harder time geting in, I just think it's an odd system specific thing when all command throws don't behave the same.
Berseker Barrage the only charge special
The things I like least about Necalli is that he feels like a SFIV relic. By that, I mean that he has tight timing on things that most other characters in this game just seem to WORK with.
Links feel so much easier in this game, and most people have EX specials that easily lead to extensions. Necalli's moves all leave enemies in states that LOOK like you could follow up (Like his strong command throw, or his EX slashes and stomps), but you're stuck unable to do anything while the animations / camera recover. His Cr.HP -> qcf+HK -> CA doesn't flow nicely, you have to wait until the opponent is falling, and then the actual activating hit is a bit ambiguous (unlike Karen's obvious, combo-locking blows from her CA), and is easy to miss.
This might all be forgivable if he did SO SO much more damage. But he seems to do about the same as others, just with less deftly-designed tools.
Note; I think his jumping MP might leave enemies in a float state. But kicked out the beta ATM, can't test.
Links feel so much easier in this game, and most people have EX specials that easily lead to extensions. Necalli's moves all leave enemies in states that LOOK like you could follow up (Like his strong command throw, or his EX slashes and stomps), but you're stuck unable to do anything while the animations / camera recover. His Cr.HP -> qcf+HK -> CA doesn't flow nicely, you have to wait until the opponent is falling, and then the actual activating hit is a bit ambiguous (unlike Karen's obvious, combo-locking blows from her CA), and is easy to miss.
This might all be forgivable if he did SO SO much more damage. But he seems to do about the same as others, just with less deftly-designed tools.
Note; I think his jumping MP might leave enemies in a float state. But kicked out the beta ATM, can't test.
eah, I PUT Canada too. if that's why i'm rarely getting matches it sucks :/
Did the same earlier. Oh well I can used my other account to play games.
it does, you can combo it into super which is nice
Leafhopper
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Did those recommended SFV requirements that recommended a GTX 960 is it for the 2GB version or the 4GB version?
Ooo, so Necalli's Jumping MP DOES leave them floatable. And VERY much so. You can hit with any ground normal, a new jump attack, DP, EX STOMPS even.. it's crazy jugglable. You can even hit with it AA while descending from a jump, jump back up and hit with it again, then land his DP.
Ahh, it was the SPD? Figured it's be the run grab. I don't mind the idea, chara-specific oddities are fun. Hope other characters can get the same kinda stuff though, as time goes on. I like how Birdie Can combo into his EX chain throw, for example, though I know that's an attack throw.
Ahh, it was the SPD? Figured it's be the run grab. I don't mind the idea, chara-specific oddities are fun. Hope other characters can get the same kinda stuff though, as time goes on. I like how Birdie Can combo into his EX chain throw, for example, though I know that's an attack throw.
ãInaba Residentã
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Yesssss. Buffering V-trigger with stand fierce in claw is super good.
But he's already been figured out, right?
Yeah, looked like both grabs. Combofiend did c.lp, s.lk xx EX SPD, and it was 3 hits.
But yeah, I don't mind it, I just think it's odd that grabs are altered this way at a system level to behave differently.
KhalilSyncere
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I think you can combo any type of throw off of crush counters, provided the opponent is in right position for the type of throw.
Trickster
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She's a grappler, so I'm pretty sure her super counts as a command grab or whatever they're called.
Thanks for checking that, was fun to mess around with when back in!... And kicked out again, lol.
TOTALLY! XD Especially since he can get re-balanced and adjusted right up until and after release!
Really, jumping MP is the most "fun" thing I found for him so far. Since basically EVERYTHING follows up after it (Even EX Charging claw and stomps), you get a lot of leeway as to how you'll ground / reset your opponent.
It's a grab.
I don't really understand how Vega is supposed to be used but I'm having fun with him. I noticed that without the claw his damage output is shit, but he can combo his CA from his target combo (MP, HK, CA instead of V-Skill). Other than that and the command throw I don't know if clawless is any good or not.
I really need the pros crunching time on him xD
I really need the pros crunching time on him xD
Baleoce
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That's what I've come here to find out also.
Kinda hope it stays, even if I hate SPDs, lol. (Blame the "cinematic start" for them in SFIV, especially as an early Dhalsim main, haha.) The more SNK-like the grapple game feels, the more I like it. Everyone has command throws! Give me a new one for Cammy! Mika's throw game has me kinda enchanted, even if fighting against her is constant frustration, lol. Can't believe her Promo Cut even powers up her basic throws.
Clawless is when he finally get cancellable normals too, and his command throw. He's not nearly as neutered feeling without claw as I'd expect. It's nice that he's more of a footsies guy with claw, and more of a combo one without it.
CrackpotDesert
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I'm having trouble landing command grabs. They don't vacuum people in like SFIV.
I'm having trouble landing command grabs. They don't vacuum people in like SFIV.
ãInaba Residentã
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Share Play is blocked
It's a comboable grab, st.HP xx Super works.
"God's Beard!"
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Seems like wall dive, target combo, ex wall dive, v trigger is the BnB for now. V Trigger and super both leave enough time for another wall dive mixup as well.
Target combo whiffs crouchers though.
Haven't tried the last one. The grab the cpu did was basically the regular grab but with more spins and the ex flashing.
CrackpotDesert
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It actually seems like she has 4. Wingless Airplane anti air, Brimstone and Giant Swing command grabs. Aside from these, I've noticed she sometimes does a powerbomb in place of her regular throws. Forward throw should be a Bulldog, back throw should be a Hurricanrana. The powerbomb just came out one of the times.
"God's Beard!"
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JOJO'S UP IN THIS
Dear god I love this character lol
Tag combos are fucking awesome
powerbomb = regular throw when someone is crouching
I think one of the grabs is just a unique animation that happens on crouching enemies but I could be wrong.
Mika is so awesome in this game.
Baleoce
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Bare Hand Vega is more fun. More cancellable normals, target combo special cancelable, normals seem quicker, command grab.
I've been trying to combo into claw off as quick as possible.
i HeaR MusiC
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Where is Ken?
CrackpotDesert
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That's awesome.
LelouchViBritannia
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is it still vega and mika only on the ps4?
Zombegoast
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Translation: In an hour.
direct_quote
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Surprised that Mika seems fun, and her combo potential is better than Vega's.. But I dislike her outfit though so ???
Muchi Muchi Pink
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And Necalli.
piccio_ssl
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wait...is it open?
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