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[glassgannon]

screw this i havent even been able to download the ingame update.
error 22004
tried everything..
different accounts, db rebuild, redownload ..

 

[skLaFarebear]

DC'd

 

[mattp]

wait. so after all this time the matchmaking system is fucked again? lol god dammit
no wonder I've only had one match.
what a bummer

 

[CountBlack]

I don't plink in sf4 and I land my one 1 frame link combo I do consistently. Chris G plays sakura and does her loops that have 1 frame links without plinking as well.


So no, that's not true.


Yeah, also I decided I'd rather go for EX upper instead. in trigger does 427 damage and then you can apply the pressure after for stun

PM me your PSN breh

 

[LowParry]

I don't plink in sf4 and I land my one 1 frame link combo I do consistently. Chris G plays sakura and does her loops that have 1 frame links without plinking as well.

Plinking is just too odd to get used to using. I think I use it more for canceling normals but that's about it.

 

[Mr. X]

Bleh too bad we can't find other people and have to wait for ranked matches

 

[vulva]

Just tested it out and def agree- the uppercut's just so much safer than risking the super whiff.

Yeah, plus it gives you time to go for a divekick set up to keep the pressure going which can lead to command throw mixups.

PM me your PSN breh

kk

 

[GuardianE]

In the corner, sometimes Ken does his kick target combo in the wrong direction after a crossunder. I hope that gets fixed.

 

[PadWarrior]

Liking Ken a lot. His cr mk seems shorter than Ryu's. Or maybe it's all in my head. Still trying to find a good strategy for using his V-skill run. Will practice some more combos later.

 

[Producer]

Necalli's target combo: you can opt not to go for his vskill ender and instead you can get a crossup j.mk

 

[vulva]

Who were the people saying that Necalli was a really straight forward and totally figured out character? This dude seems pretty great, other than having kind of shit anti-airs other than his DP

 

[Lulubop]

Rog says Vega is probably the best in the scr out of all characters, but Imma take zts word on that one.

 

[Scrub Mcgrubb]

so with crossplay testing pretty much off the table for this beta phase... they should just throw PC a bone and flip that version on

 

[vulva]

Another reason I like cr mk for the reset after command grab is that you can also do cr hk which leads to a knockdown. Doing this can confuse the opponent if they're not fully ready for the reset, thinking they're in a knockdown state and need a second to think

 

[Gr1mLock]

Who were the people saying that Necalli was a really straight forward and totally figured out character? This dude seems pretty great, other than having kind of shit anti-airs other than his DP

I was hoping he would be good and turns out he is. Maybe I wont have to main Chun after all.

 

[vulva]

I was hoping he would be good and turns out he is. Maybe I wont have to main Chun after all.

It's like you cracked open my head and read my thoughts

 

[Qvoth]

screw this i havent even been able to download the ingame update.
error 22004
tried everything..
different accounts, db rebuild, redownload ..

is it the update file installation failed? the download doesn't reset even if you get this error, i got this a lot last night either

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

Rog says Vega is probably the best in the scr out of all characters, but Imma take zts word on that one.

Ken is the best in this build so far. St.Lk is stupid. No way it remains special cancelable. And I don't car what Ed says I have my own opinions from my own experiences I don't just follow what X player says cause he is player X.

 

[Edzi]

So what exactly can you use Ken's V-Skill for?

 

[Attleborotaco]

So what are some of Ken's B&B's?

 

[glassgannon]

is it the update file installation failed? the download doesn't reset even if you get this error, i got this a lot last night either

yes, and i deleted it myself thinking it could be a corrupt file causing this.
sometimes ill get into the menu to select 1 of the 5 options but it quickly exits with same error.
sometimes ill see a splash screen with r mika but thats far as it goes.
but most of the time it just kicks me out of the title menu

 

[Producer]

Another reason I like cr mk for the reset after command grab is that you can also do cr hk which leads to a knockdown. Doing this can confuse the opponent if they're not fully ready for the reset, thinking they're in a knockdown state and need a second to think

In VT you can also do jab then dash under. A bit gimmicky but it can catch someone off guard. If you slightly delay the dash he will stay in front.

 

[kirblar]

So what exactly can you use Ken's V-Skill for?

It's essentially an FADC, complete with forward dash. It's a combo extender.

 

[SixMachine]

I have had 2 matches with decent connections in the past 30 minutes. Really surprised because I'm on wifi because I'm too lazy to connect my ethernet cable. I like Necalli so far.

 

[direct_quote]

Ken is the best in this build so far. St.Lk is stupid. No way it remains special cancelable

Maximilian thinks otherwise (about Ken being the best), but he could be to Ken what James Chen is to Cammy..

 

[GuardianE]

Maximilianthinks otherwise (about Ken being the best).

I take anything Max says with an enormous grain of salt.

 

[Lulubop]

Well PR Rog thinks Ken is the worst as well.

 

[kirblar]

In VT you can also do jab then dash under. A bit gimmicky but it can catch someone off guard. If you slightly delay the dash he will stay in front.

I just tried this and...holy bejesus.

None of these characters suck, fwiw.

 

[KingBroly]

so with crossplay testing pretty much off the table for this beta phase... they should just throw PC a bone and flip that version on

No crossplay? Then why isn't it up?

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

So what exactly can you use Ken's V-Skill for?

A poorly conceived mix up tool that also helps him combo crush counters.

 

[Coda]

Ok bored of training now pls give me matches.

 

[vulva]

In VT you can also do jab then dash under. A bit gimmicky but it can catch someone off guard. If you slightly delay the dash he will stay in front.

Haha, that's cool. Definitely worth it for the mix up once in awhile. I love cross unders.

I'm so mad at people who said Necalli's already been figured out and is too simple

 

[Edzi]

It's essentially an FADC, complete with forward dash. It's a combo extender.

That's his V-Trigger though, right? I'm talking about his run/step kick. Seems pretty useless since I can't find anything it can cancel.

A poorly conceived mix up tool that also helps him combo crush counters.

Huh, I figured it would have more utility than that. It's not even useful to move quickly across the stage since his dash seems just as fast, if not faster.

What's Ken's crush counter move?

 

[Scrub Mcgrubb]

No crossplay? Then why isn't it up?

Well if the matchmaking doesn't work... I don't see how we're going to test crossplay?

 

[GuardianE]

Got a match! Finally! And won. Alright, I got my one match after 3 hours.

0 points and fight monay.

 

[Producer]

I'm so mad at people who said Necalli's already been figured out and is too simple

Whoever said that probably played him for 5min tops

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

Maximilian thinks otherwise (about Ken being the best), but he could be to Ken what James Chen is to Cammy..

Character has everything. Damage, good normals, strong antiairs ,& easy hit confirms. What is there to complain about?

 

[SixMachine]

Did some testing Mika's flying peach is safe on block when done at a distance. Ken cannot ex shoryuken punish after blocking it. Is EX DP is fastest reversal and does it have i frames? Just wondering if it is worth it to test the other dp.

 

[Gr1mLock]

It's like you cracked open my head and read my thoughts

Have you noticed how command grab (non ex) leaves you at a perfect distance for a jump mk/dive kick mixup?

 

[ZeroTheShadow]

That's his V-Trigger though, right? I'm talking about his run/step kick. Seems pretty useless since I can't find anything it can cancel.



Huh, I figured it would have more utility than that. What's Ken's crush counter move?

St.Hp is what Im using. Cancel it with V-skill on counter hit & link b+mp hp

 

[GuardianE]

Did some testing Mika's flying peach is safe on block when done at a distance. Ken cannot ex shoryuken punish after blocking it. Is EX DP is fastest reversal and does it have i frames? Just wondering if it is worth it to test the other dp.

EX DP has never consistently been the fastest punish. There's no telling what the fastest reversal is in this game unless without frame data.

 

[Slaythe]

Character has everything. Damage, good normals, strong antiairs ,& easy hit confirms. What is there to complain about?

Didn't check all the characters, but his damage seems fairly low compared to the other characters.

I mean look at Mika.

 

[vulva]

I think it's easier to combo from HK stomp in to super in non-trigger than trigger. Maybe just my imagination

Have you noticed how command grab (non ex) leaves you at a perfect distance for a jump mk/dive kick mixup?

I have, and it's great haha

 

[direct_quote]

Finally a fight...

 

[Slaythe]

Finally a fight...

Demon !! Demon !!!

Still nothing out of 3 hours.

 

[Qvoth]

yes, and i deleted it myself thinking it could be a corrupt file causing this.
sometimes ill get into the menu to select 1 of the 5 options but it quickly exits with same error.
sometimes ill see a splash screen with r mika but thats far as it goes.
but most of the time it just kicks me out of the title menu

yeah, just continue from title into the ingame downloader as per normal
saw this on srk, necalli can use his stomp to cancel projectiles

 

[kirblar]

That's his V-Trigger though, right? I'm talking about his run/step kick. Seems pretty useless since I can't find anything it can cancel.

Oh, yeah, sorry. The step kick's start up seems like an issue in the brief time I was playing with it, but he's got run cancel combos, at the very least.

I had a harder time with the Stomp->Super timing in normal.

 

[Producer]

Have you noticed how command grab (non ex) leaves you at a perfect distance for a jump mk/dive kick mixup?

same with his target combo, perfect range for j.mk crossup

 

[Secret Character]

After messing around with all 4: Ken is garbage with Necalli close behind. I'm having a hard time deciding if Mika or Vega is better, but they're both super strong characters.

Ken has a couple decent things about him. One being his standing LK and the other being his v skill. Otherwise, his approach is weird, his damage isn't optimal, and his zone game is so much worse than Ryu's.

 

[Mr. X]

Ken having a tatsu that knocks down is totally messing with me.