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[vulva]

I just tested with a Ken dummy, block srk and punish with st. HK (crush counter) in to cr HP, HK stomp, EX upper. Easy to land and does 386 damage without trigger. You can also do super instead of ex and it'd 521 without trigger.

With trigger ex upper ending does 410, super ender does 571.

 

[SixMachine]

EX DP has never consistently been the fastest punish. There's no telling what the fastest reversal is in this game unless without frame data.

I decided to test all dps and it seemed that Mika's HP flying peach is safe at max distance. Her only normals that are unsafe on block seems to be HP, cr.HP, and cr.HK. Doing mk really close (like face to face) also gets punished on block but I don't know why anyone would do that with this poke. Also her target combo is not a true block string, so people can mash right after the lk before mp comes out. I'm also surprised her f+HP is safe on block, since it is a juggle starter.

edit: it's a bitch to record all possible reversal options each time you switch character...

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Except that without plinking you will land your 1f link one time out of 3 even if you practiced it for over 100hours..."


I guess no one did 1f links consistently before SF4.

Oh wait.

 

[Qvoth]

the more i look at necalli the more i think he's decent enough

 

[Anbec7]

Had my first match and won against a Necalli player.
Was a little laggy so only basics...

any R Mika easy combos?

 

[Clawww]

execution lords, try this one: v-trigger active ken, s.Hp run cancel c.mp, b+mp~hp (target combo)

 

[SixMachine]

Had my first match and won against a Necalli player.
Was a little laggy so only basics...

any R Mika easy combos?

mp > mp > mp flying peach.

Target combo which is lk > mp into mp flying peach.

mp > hp > hp flying peach

charge HK > mp > mp flying peach.

charge hk > mp > hp > hp flying peach

for a low starter you can do cr.lk > st.lp > lp flying peach

 

[nikos]

Two and a half hours and not one match. Capcom pls.

 

[Dremark]

PS4 matchmacking exclusively might be working good, but incorporating PC into this might be causing these issues.

I believe that the match making system is matching based on skill level and that's probably why there are issues with it now when there weren't before.

PC cross play is likely another issue but with the Beta not live on PC yet I'd I'd imagine it's not that big if a factor, at least not yet.

 

[skLaFarebear]

Switch to Necalli for the first time, use him for 2 minutes and got into and blown up in a match.

SMH

 

[vulva]

There's some good ways where she can nail some raw hurt, especially in V-Trigger, but beyond that, he's not particularly great on the mixup, and not a lot of combo variety. Another character that is just missing something.

He's really straightforward and has very short combos/little room for creativity. Good beginner character, bad for lab monsters.

Necalli isnt all that fun. Not much to else say either, none of his moves are all that interesting except his charge move which is obviously limited in its utility.

you're all my enemies now

 

[Anbec7]

mp > mp > mp flying peach.

Target combo which is lk > mp into mp flying peach.

mp > hp > hp flying peach

charge HK > mp > mp flying peach.

charge hk > mp > hp > hp flying peach

for a low starter you can do cr.lk > st.lp > lp flying peach

Thank you, I had another match but.. I got disconnected lol

 

[Gr1mLock]

I think it's easier to combo from HK stomp in to super in non-trigger than trigger. Maybe just my imagination

I have, and it's great haha

I'm trying to find some anti air jump strong shenanigans. So far it might just be an easy way to combo into super bipson's style. Aside from that the only thing i have is after you air juggle with jump strong, depending on what normal you ground reset with if you Vtrigger cancel the normal and dash forward and end up either in front or the back. stand strong xx v trigger leaves you behind stand fierce in front. Bit similar to the ex grab reset shenanigans.

same with his target combo, perfect range for j.mk crossup

My only legit gripe is that he cant cancel his target combo into anything aside from his v skill. It's not like it would be some earth shattering thing.

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

I kinda feel I got faster in a match when it wasn't officially open.
I see even other europeans on the heat map. Let me play them, Capcom pls.

 

[Ferrio]

mp > mp > mp flying peach.

Target combo which is lk > mp into mp flying peach.

mp > hp > hp flying peach

charge HK > mp > mp flying peach.

charge hk > mp > hp > hp flying peach

for a low starter you can do cr.lk > st.lp > lp flying peach

And if you wanna add a bit more damage :

(charge HK/Jump hp ) mp > hp > f+vtrigger > hp > assist hits > wingless airplane

 

[Shouta]

Ken damage does seem a little loweron the whole but I did find that he can get 350+ meterless from st.hk in footsies and 400 with a jump in if he has V-Trigger. ready to activate.

 

[kirblar]

you're all my enemies now

What? I like the character. I love that he requires virtually no skill in execution (aside from the obnoxious super cancel.) I can actually follow along and do these setups/cross-unders and its AWESOME. But if you're a James Chen-type who goes and loves doing every trial from 1-20 for every character, you're going to hate him because he doesn't reward that shit in the least.

 

[Producer]

My only legit gripe is that he cant cancel his target combo into anything aside from his v skill. It's not like it would be some earth shattering thing.

Yeah, it would help him during non VT state. But its still not bad at all.

 

[vulva]

What? I like the character. I love that he requires virtually no skill in execution (aside from the obnoxious super cancel.) I can actually follow along and do these setups/cross-unders and its AWESOME. But if you're a James Chen-type who goes and loves doing every trial from 1-20 for every character, you're going to hate him because he doesn't reward that shit in the least.

His combos seem about as complex as anyone else in SFV so far though, and he definitely has high ceiling for what he's capable of. I was all sad on my way home thinking he'd be a boring simple character but he's far from it.

 

[Skikkiks]

I've had some fun in the beta. Here are some R. Mika clombos for fun.

Additionally, for Necalli, st.jab -> st. forward is a good frame trap for throws that can lead to a counter hit link to c.mp, letting you do st.mk -> c.mp -> light charge move or go into the target combo.

 

[Moaradin]

And if you wanna add a bit more damage :

(charge HK/Jump hp ) mp > hp > f+vtrigger > hp > assist hits > wingless airplane

I have a variation of this that does a bit more damage.

MP > HP > f+vtrigger >HP > assist hits > charge HK > ex wingless airplane

Very fun to do

 

[Shackzam]

Is there anything you can link off of an overhead crush counter with nacalli. Also having trouble finding something that links after a farther st.hk crush counter as well

 

[joekusa]

Ok Capcom have issues with the matchmaking but HOW CAN WE UNLOCK KANZUKI ESTATE WITHOUT MATCH?!!

 

[Rentahamster]

Does preload happen automatically on Steam, or do I have to enable something?

 

[Producer]

Is there anything you can link off of an overhead crush counter with nacalli. Also having trouble finding something that links after a farther st.hk crush counter as well

You can link super or berserker slash

 

["God's Beard!"]

Crush Counter combo with Vega

Also, you can make people fall out of Vega's Critical Art if you hit them high enough with it in the corner, which allows for some funny looking DHC-glitch-esque combos.

Impossible combo for lols

 

[vulva]

Finally got a match, beat some Ken but I didn't put much of what I practiced in to action. Now to wait another 4 hours qq

 

[Shackzam]

You can link super or berserker slash

Hmmm, was trying to see if there was anything else. Guess not lol

 

[Moaradin]

Oh shit got 2 matches within a few minutes

 

[Shackzam]

Oh shit got 2 matches within a few minutes

I got the in less then 10 and then it stopped giving me matches

 

[kirblar]

His combos seem about as complex as anyone else in SFV so far though, and he definitely has high ceiling for what he's capable of. I was all sad on my way home thinking he'd be a boring simple character but he's far from it.

Your really good execution skills might be blinding you a little on this one. Compare him to say, Vega, where you have to consider screen positioning (which side/how close to wall), juggle potential, claw on/off, v-trigger available or no, CH or no, etc., all on the fly- he's really complicated in a way Necalli isn't.

 

[Ragingnight]

the most damaging combo (with no meter) I have personally found with mika is like

st. mp - f. st mp throw (any direction including midscreen) wall bounce - f. hp - anti air move

though its a bit finicky landing the last part

 

[Moaradin]

the most damaging combo (with no meter) I have personally found with mika is like

st. mp - f. st mp throw (any direction including midscreen) wall bounce - f. hp - anti air move

though its a bit finicky landing the last part

instead of the f.hp do a charge HK into medium anti air. That does a little bit more damage.

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

I give it up for now.

 

[Coda]

Well at least this beta was good for taking screenshots:

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[Rean]

execution lords, try this one: v-trigger active ken, s.Hp run cancel c.mp, b+mp~hp (target combo)

Wow the timing on the cr.mp is so tight. You can cancel into mp srk > hp srk after the target combo or mp srk > super too.

 

[SSnake]

Got one match in after waiting one hour. We both picked Mika. We both did the full speech at the same time and I grabbed him and won. lol saved that replay.

 

[Edzi]

Finally got a match and it was against Vega. He's still as annoying to fight as ever, just constantly jumping around or rolling. -__-

 

[Ragingnight]

instead of the f.hp do a charge HK into medium anti air. That does a little bit more damage.

I swore I tried doing charge HK and it didn't work...but then again I have horrible execution

 

["God's Beard!"]

I thought they took out cross up tatsus? Ken can get a basic combo off a deep cross up air tatsu. Definitely needs to be deep enough to not be so ambiguous as before, so maybe that's good enough for them.

 

[RickyRozay]

Any way to play the pc version without paying full price for the pre-order on steam?

 

[Moaradin]

I swore I tried doing charge HK and it didn't work...but then again I have horrible execution

Just gotta start charging early. Before the wall bounce happens.

 

[SixMachine]

Ok Capcom have issues with the matchmaking but HOW CAN WE UNLOCK KANZUKI ESTATE WITHOUT MATCH?!!

Sadly even with a match, you get no fight money. I had 2 matches with Necalli and won them both, but no fight money earned. Also it isn't recording my matches like yesterday. I have a 0 matches played in my profile and doesn't show a history of who I fought. So that is probably what Capcom was referring to when they said they ran into some issues, their fight network is having problems, even though it was working somewhat yesterday.

 

[qcf x2]

Ken damage does seem a little loweron the whole but I did find that he can get 350+ meterless from st.hk in footsies and 400 with a jump in if he has V-Trigger. ready to activate.

I came to the conclusion that characters with DPs have lesser damage output per combo (which doesn't necessarily matter). Seems likely to be a conscious decision on Capcom's part. Ken does feel very balanced / beginner friendly, like a different flavor of Ryu. All around, doesn't excel at any one thing. I'm okay with that.

Also, not sure if this is an old build or what, but Ken and Mika both can link jab into other normals into special/super. I thought that was gone, but it doesn't seem particularly useful; at least it isn't multiple jabs like that beta 1 Cammy nonsense.

Got one match in after waiting one hour. We both picked Mika. We both did the full speech at the same time and I grabbed him and won. lol saved that replay.

lol, that's awesome. That's some fight money high stakes cowboy shit lol.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Finally got a match and it was against Vega. He's still as annoying to fight as ever, just constantly jumping around or rolling. -__-

YODELAY HEE-HOO

 

[SixMachine]

Also, not sure if this is an old build or what, but Ken and Mika both can link jab into other normals into special/super. I thought that was gone, but it doesn't seem particularly useful; at least it isn't multiple jabs like that beta 1 Cammy nonsense.

I think it's like Nash. They allowed them to go from lights into their target combos, since Mika can do lp > lk > mp into flying peach. To get rid of it, they basically would have to make her lk too slow to combo from her lp. The damage seems rather scaled though, so I don't think it's a big issue.

 

[Anbec7]

so what can Mika do against Vega? I'm training with the CPU and shit he is hard to beat

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";182526743]YODELAY HEE-HOO[/QUOTE]
Why does a spanish ninja yodel anyway?

 

[skLaFarebear]

Got one match in after waiting one hour. We both picked Mika. We both did the full speech at the same time and I grabbed him and won. lol saved that replay.

Mika mirrors are gonna be some crazy shit.

 

[Clawww]

just got a match yay