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Street Fighter V Beta 2 Thread: Welcome, future 21007s! Now on PC!

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vulva

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Slaythe said:
It's a problem when other characters do twice the damage without them and they're not intended to be part of the game.

Also, online. 3frames buffer makes it very easy to find proper opponents online. 1F links is pretty much forcing you to play nearby players. Cool for you if you're american, the rest of the world doesn't have scenes and we'd like to be able to enjoy other countries players too.
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That's flat out not true. Landing one frame links comes from muscle memory. 1 frame punishes are the problem for online, not 1 frame links
 
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Producer

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Shackzam said:
There's a ton of sick stuff in v-trigger. Him without it is like a baby version of his v-trigger mode. Also he can link lights into mediums in v-trigger
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Yeah you can, you can also dash under after ex grab. He can also combo into medium stomp, so much other stuff too
 
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hitsugi

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Ken's normals also change a bit with V-Trigger, thus, his combos are also different.

Things like s.HP, run, s.LP, b+MP~HP are possible, or s.HP, run, c.LP, lk hurricane kick, ex hurricane kick.. so..

jump in, c.HP, hado, v-trigger, s.HP, run, c.LP, lk hurricane kick, ex hurricane kick.

Ken has some neat stuff and he's been a lot of fun to play.
 
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kirblar

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vulva said:
That's flat out not true. Landing one frame links comes from muscle memory. 1 frame punishes are the problem for online, not 1 frame links
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The issue is more that if 1f stuff is optimal, it becomes effectively mandatory for competitive play, thus blowing up one of their major design goals.
 
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Shackzam

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miku the prodigy said:
Yeah you can, you can also dash under after ex grab. He can also combo into medium stomp, so much other stuff too
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You damn right
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Musicmugen

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Slaythe said:
It's a problem when other characters do twice the damage without them and they're not intended to be part of the game.

Also, online. 3frames buffer makes it very easy to find proper opponents online. 1F links is pretty much forcing you to play nearby players. Cool for you if you're american, the rest of the world doesn't have scenes and we'd like to be able to enjoy other countries players too.
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no character is dependent on 1 frame links i understand how i can be annoying that other characters can do more damage easier than yours but damage output isnt everything in fighting games specially streetfighter
 
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Coda

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Fr0stbyte said:
Just got matched, didn't get any points or fight money from it though :(.
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The points have been hella buggy for me during every beta. Either it would fail to upload to the server or say it uploaded to the server than disconnect me and they'd be gone once I jumped back in.
 
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Scrub Mcgrubb

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So they're doing a total of 22 hours of server maintenance over the beta... yet they can't correct the matchmaking which was working fine before.

Not a good look...
 
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FistOfSyn

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vulva said:
That's flat out not true. Landing one frame links comes from muscle memory. 1 frame punishes are the problem for online, not 1 frame links
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Except that without plinking you will land your 1f link one time out of 3 even if you practiced it for over 100hours...
 
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Ferrio

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Much better this was caught in the beta phases. God would of been a nightmare if it would of straight up been released like this.

Scrub Mcgrubb said:
So they're doing a total of 22 hours of server maintenance over the beta... yet they can't correct the matchmaking which was working fine before.
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The matchmaking has never been fine. It's worked for people in the past beta, but not everyone and especially not well for everyone. I got a total of 10 matches in the first beta... waiting a good 20 minutes between matches. What people are experiencing in Beta 2 is what some of us experienced in 1.
 
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I know it's a beta and everything, but it really makes me wonder why they even think this is a good look for them. At the end of the day the general consensus is that a beta is just a demo. No matter how much you splash that it isn't on the screen. Granted matchmaking stuff can be fixed more so then actual game problems. But it's just not a good look when every other company releases beta's without much hassle to them functionality wise.
 
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I-hate-u

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Scrub Mcgrubb said:
So they're doing a total of 22 hours of server maintenance over the beta... yet they can't correct the matchmaking which was working fine before.

Not a good look...
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PS4 matchmacking exclusively might be working good, but incorporating PC into this might be causing these issues.

Jawmuncher said:
I know it's a beta and everything, but it really makes me wonder why they even think this is a good look for them. At the end of the day the general consensus is that a beta is just a demo. No matter how much you splash that it isn't on the screen. Granted matchmaking stuff can be fixed more so then actual game problems. But I know if it was me I wouldn't bother until we had stuff better off than this.
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Beta is not open for everyone though, just the people who pre-ordered. The 21007 error was much more worse. At least we can play offline.
 
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Coda

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They should've just made it so you could look for players/challenge opponents instead of waiting in training mode for the game itself to do matchmaking. Seems like a convoluted system if you ask me, but I bet they had a reason for it on the server side of things.

At least we know when the game drops we'll be able to just crank out matches.
 
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enzo_gt

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OP updated with latest update.

Pretty cool that they will be sanctioning more opportunities to play the beta before release and after this second beta period ends officially.
 
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SephLuis

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Jawmuncher said:
I know it's a beta and everything, but it really makes me wonder why they even think this is a good look for them. At the end of the day the general consensus is that a beta is just a demo. No matter how much you splash that it isn't on the screen. Granted matchmaking stuff can be fixed more so then actual game problems. But it's just not a good look when every other company releases beta's without much hassle to them functionality wise.
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It's a beta to find bugs, glitches and issues with the game code. If they putted it out, they were expecting that this version was stable, which, in reality, isn't the case.

Testing in a controlled environment is much different than testing with thousands of actual users. For them, both betas were a success, since it allows them to deal with those issues before the game actual release.

Can you imagine how bad it would be if we had to wait months for them to patch the online mode ? It would kill a lot of potential communities around the globe.
 
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VariantX

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I-hate-u said:
PS4 matchmacking exclusively might be working good, but incorporating PC into this might be causing these issues.



Beta is not open for everyone though, just the people who pre-ordered. The 21007 error was much more worse. At least we can play offline.
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Yep, ill take the offline training mode with cpu dummy over not being able to play at all like the first beta. That's just time for me to mess around and try to figure out how these characters work. I do wish I could unlock kanzuki estate though
 
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Sonson21

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Got a grand total of one match, haha. I will say this, it was smooth as silk. Hell maybe the guy lived in the apartment next to mine.

Anyway I'm over training mode so I'm done for tonight. Maybe the PC version's match making won't be so broken.


P.S. Necalli is the bizniz. I had no interest in this guy at all until I got to mess around with him. So much fun, seriously considering maining this guy.
 
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Automatisch

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I'm probably going to wait until MM is fixed, I've messed around in training mode enough and I really just want to play some matches. I think it's good they're doing this in the first place, but we're not that far out from March at this point, and I would hope by the next beta that this still isn't an issue.
 
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Manbig

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So matchmaking is still pretty busted for everyone else too right? I've been going at it with the dummy for about an hour now.
 
Jawmuncher

Jawmuncher

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I-hate-u said:
PS4 matchmacking exclusively might be working good, but incorporating PC into this might be causing these issues.



Beta is not open for everyone though, just the people who pre-ordered. The 21007 error was much more worse. At least we can play offline.
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SephLuis said:
It's a beta to find bugs, glitches and issues with the game code. If they putted it out, they were expecting that this version was stable, which, in reality, isn't the case.

Testing in a controlled environment is much different than testing with thousands of actual users. For them, both betas were a success, since it allows them to deal with those issues before the game actual release.

Can you imagine how bad it would be if we had to wait months for them to patch the online mode ? It would kill a lot of potential communities around the globe.
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Thats all true I suppose. Would be a much worse state of affairs if the game was closer. Or if this was a open beta they were hyping.
 
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Manbig

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kirblar said:
Yup.

The silver lining is that it lets you play pretty much endless local pvp.
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That blows. I have nobody to play with locally, so I was just fighting the Ken AI. Dude is quite a killer lol. That pressure off of his run seems like it's going to take quite a while to get used to.

EDIT: A couple of things that I did learn just messing with the AI while using R. MIka though...

Cr. MK was able to low profile under the fireball a few times. I didn't really practice the timing using the record function though, but I imagine that if this low profiles under fireballs, it might also be a solid long range anti air normal. Slide also low profiles under fireballs obviously.

Fully charged HK jumps over fireballs. Not sure about non charged.

I had some issues trying to convert hits from slight range. The range on her normals are so limited, and cancelling into the butt thump from certain distances makes it not combo, which is very bad because it is awful on block. Basically, with her limited footsie game, you won't be doing much from a slight range other than landing single hit normals.

St. MK is obviously the go to normal from slight range. It is worth noting that EX QCB+P appears to have the same range as the stationary version of st.MK, so you can use it to help judge grab range if you're slick.

All you need is one charge of her V-Skill to get a ton of damage on her grabs. This is actually a pretty realistic thing to do too. Also, you can combo off of the mic toss into both st. LK and st. MP, so there might be some slick oki set ups using this thing.
 
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JayEH

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I don't understand how the beta got worse. If there was PC players in I could understand some issues but this is still ps4 exclusive so idk.
 
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vulva

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FistOfSyn said:
Except that without plinking you will land your 1f link one time out of 3 even if you practiced it for over 100hours...
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I don't plink in sf4 and I land my one 1 frame link combo I do consistently. Chris G plays sakura and does her loops that have 1 frame links without plinking as well.


So no, that's not true.
CountBlackule said:
Timing for the Super is tight.

Are you on PSN?
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Yeah, also I decided I'd rather go for EX upper instead. in trigger does 427 damage and then you can apply the pressure after for stun
 
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Dartastic

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BiggNife said:
Yeah, I saw that. I'm a little less sympathetic than I was in August considering this is their third attempt at a beta. The fact that it sounds like this issue is going to last through Sunday is what annoys me the most, I'd rather they just delayed it a couple weeks until they got this shit sorted.
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Same. I can't even install the update file, so I can't even get into the fucking training room. This is crap.
 
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Ferrio

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JayEH said:
I don't understand how the beta got worse. If there was PC players in I could understand some issues but this is still ps4 exclusive so idk.
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But it's running the version that will accept PC crossplay.

It's still a beta so I'm not upset, but so far it's getting worse and that's kind annoying. First "unofficial" beta I got by far the most matches.
 
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Clawww

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I'm having trouble with some of the v-trigger run cancel links. right now im doing s.hp run cancel c.mp link to target combo and barely getting it lol
 
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HardRojo

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Gonna call it quits for today. I really need a stick, unless I want to get blisters on my thumb. Need to keep experimenting with Ken and Mika, possibly Vega too since he seemed interesting. Can't wait for Karin and Rashid go be available for some lab time.
 
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