Practicing it when everything's static isn't too helpful, since I can do it practically every time in those cases (though, I was still doing it in the waiting time for new matches). It's when there's action and I have to do it in the heat of the moment that I have trouble making it come out. I was getting much better near the end, though.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Street Fighter V Beta 2 Thread: Welcome, future 21007s! Now on PC!
- Thread starter enzo_gt
- Start date
- Status
Practicing it when everything's static isn't too helpful, since I can do it practically every time in those cases (though, I was still doing it in the waiting time for new matches). It's when there's action and I have to do it in the heat of the moment that I have trouble making it come out. I was getting much better near the end, though.
Yeah. Won't be back up until 2AM PST.
LowParry
Member
https://twitter.com/PR_Balrog/status/657072848855392256
Seems I'm not the only one thinking Necalli has shit normals.
Seems I'm not the only one thinking Necalli has shit normals.
Zombegoast
Member
Who wants to play a beta at 2 in the morning? Glad I live in the East Coast
skLaFarebear
Member
wow lol.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Got to play this earlier today. It's good to know I got in right away unlike the last beta. It still looks great and plays fantastic. I've only played Necalli so far but I feel compelled to only play Necalli. He's freaking awes-
...or maybe not.
...or maybe not.
Goddammit!
Great, Im off work and ready to get in the lab and shit is down until I go back to work...
Overall...I'm not liking this beta outing. Not the down times, but the actual game.
Normals across the board for these 4 characters seem...stubby. Feels like SF4 all over again. What happened? The first few characters seemed nice and SF5 feeling. Like, Nash's low forward. That felt like getting back to SF. Now compare Nash's low forward to Necalli's. Just feels like a step back. Meating feeling poke ranges, reliable anti airs...I want that back.
This time out things feel less settled and more gimmicky. Like, when the beta comes back up, go try some normals out for these 4. Most of their best ranges leave you in a HUGE dead zone where you'll get crossed up because you have no buttons to deal with it.
Normals across the board for these 4 characters seem...stubby. Feels like SF4 all over again. What happened? The first few characters seemed nice and SF5 feeling. Like, Nash's low forward. That felt like getting back to SF. Now compare Nash's low forward to Necalli's. Just feels like a step back. Meating feeling poke ranges, reliable anti airs...I want that back.
This time out things feel less settled and more gimmicky. Like, when the beta comes back up, go try some normals out for these 4. Most of their best ranges leave you in a HUGE dead zone where you'll get crossed up because you have no buttons to deal with it.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
Wow. That's terrible
This dude is a hero, got a code and it worked!
yeah on Maximillians stream he showed us how bad necallis normals are, but on the plus side he seems to be a great frame trap character, either way these things will change
I don't know why so many people hate on Ken/Ryu/Shotos in general. They are the most iconic fighting group in Street Fighter to the masses. It's probably the easiest to pick up, and therefor easiest to test mechanics of a new game out. They are great characters usually prettey evenly balanced and accessibility goes a long way. It's a beta of a new game, people are gonna flock to these characters.
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Oh damn, didn't realized the second beta had started. I didn't get to play during the first beta with all the server issues, so hopefully I'll get some matches in this time. I'm nowhere near pro or anything, but I always enjoy a little Street Fighter. I just know I'm going to get my ass handed to me online, though.
I'm particularly looking forward to trying Rashid. He looks really fun. Ken, too.
I'm particularly looking forward to trying Rashid. He looks really fun. Ken, too.
There's a bot in there too, set infinite meter for yourself
skLaFarebear
Member
Yeah when your options are Vega, Mika and a brand new character otherwise, its not surprising to see people, especially new ones, jump to Ken.
Yes, I was doing that too. This isn't my first fighting game; it's just that the motion's leniency isn't the same as the ASW games I'm used to.
The Lone Dragon
Member
Not every character has to feel the same. Necalli isn't Nash. He's an in your face, frame trap monster. Why would he have long range normals? That doesn't make sense. Especially when his V-skill hits people nearly full screen. Especially when his cr.mk can cancel into a HK Stomp, which leaves him plus on block.
Lol, we've all been playing the game for hours. What exactly would we suddenly discover that we didn't already notice?
I played Necalli a lot, and I had no trouble anti-airing. Cr. HP and his DP work just fine.
As far as that "dead zone", the point is to stop people from getting there in the first place, which Necalli is fully capable of doing. Do you really want a game with anti-air SO good that you can't even cross people up at ALL? SF5 is filled with great anti-airs. People should be allowed o cross you up, if they work hard enough to get in that "dead zone".
Laws00
Member
glad im not he only one who feels this way
Spuck-uk
Banned
Because out of the three characters, theres one who hasn't been seen in 14 years, one who's been completely reworked into a stance characer and one who's completely new...and Ken.
People sure do love to mash out them flaming uppercuts and hope for the best I guess.
FadedRevolution
Member
Got my computer fixed just in time for the beta tomorrow. I'm so fucking hyped.
Its not like they paid for the game to play the characters they want to play.
Its not like they paid for the game to play the characters they want to play.
FadedRevolution
Member
[
Edit: Double post
Edit: Double post
I don't get it, either.
I mean, I would understand if it was just a complaint for the beta and because matchmaking isn't working, but people bitch about it all the time. Like there's something wrong with playing the two characters upon which the foundation of one of the largest fighting franchises is built.
And oh noes, they suck and spam uppers. As opposed to sucking in the same way with another character? /shrug
Ok, it's just me then. I just find it irritating as hell having the range I want to be in being the range the character is weakest at in regards to the air.
I don't really see the big deal here. Ken and Ryu have hilariously bad cr mk, and those are, you know, medium kicks. Is a standing jab or crouching lk supposed to hit 2x outside of throw range now? If his point is the hit box doesn't match up with what we're seeing, well, that applies to most of the characters. Chun's boot is basically invincible. And SF4 had hilariously bad hit/hurt boxes too. With that said, I'm sure Capcom will fix some of the sillier looking stuff (like Chun).
The Yo Tornado
Member
Granted, I have the PC version so I can't say much until tomorrow, but as someone who generally finds Ken boring his SFV incarnation looks really cool and like something I want to play. Run cancels are so my thing, even if they're nerfed now. So for once, regarding the mass number of people who play him, I get it.
Spuck-uk
Banned
Necalli has even shorter range than the shotos, even in his enhanced state
Marvel
could never
I know, it's nonsense.
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
No, because it's boring to fight the same character over and over again.
Nah... it gets real boring to play against the same character over and over again. It wasn't too bad here and it's understandable given the circumstances, but if the game was actually out and I see 70% Kens online? That'd be awful.
I just never experienced that. I played SF IV online for most of its life and while I probably fought more Ryu and Kens than other characters I still fought the other characters so I never felt like I was continuously fighting the same two characters over and over again.
You realize, outside of the extreme fandom we all have for SF and the hardcore fans, many regular fans are gonna play this game and have it preordered. It's a mainline SF game and it's being marketed to the masses. R. Mika and Karin, believe it or not, are not the most popular characters. That was a vote from hardcore fans. The casual and slightly more interested players are gonna play Ryu, Ken, maybe Zangief, maybe Bison, & maybe Chun-Li. That's how it goes.
AlphaDragoon
Member
Ken looks so fresh. Makes me sad at how utterly bland Ryu is in comparison. It's an even bigger disparity in this game. Wish Capcom would stop refusing to let Ryu evolve and get some new tricks.
That's his schtick. He stays familiar and solid while other Shotos explore zanier playstyles.
Hot Ryu wasn't enough?
AlphaDragoon
Member
Staying familiar doesn't have to mean having the same three moves forever, IMO. 3S had a new move and it was great.
Looks like there are some extra effects in there. And it looks super crisp.
- Status