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Whoa. I haven't gotten on today, but that is a whole lot of nerf thrown at Bison. Can he still do ex stomp after ex inferno in trigger?
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Whoa. I haven't gotten on today, but that is a whole lot of nerf thrown at Bison. Can he still do ex stomp after ex inferno in trigger?
_Final_Phoenix_
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The easiest one I can think of is:
jMK, crMP, stMP, qcf+K-P, qcb+LK into either Super or EX qcb+K (I can't land EX qcb+K outside corner though)
EDIT: HardRojo is right, EX qcb+K is better, deals more damage.
ThirtyPlus
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Apparently, they are gonna nerf everyone into the ground before launch so they can keep to their mantra to only buff characters for balance.
Good.
I hope they tore Birdie to shreds.
Good.
I hope they tore Birdie to shreds.
Karsticles
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If he started out like this, I would have wondered why he had two useless specials, at least. I would think Psycho Inferno and Psycho Blast sucked, just like I do now.
Don't you mean EX QCB+P? Yeah, it seems like it only works in the corner. The rest of Karin's BnBs, are a variation of that. Keep in mind that you can also use cr.MK xx QCB+K (light or heavy for all hits, medium is an overhead mixup) as a punish if you aren't feeling confident and want sure damage. You can cancel those into super too.
And Mika's hair too, don't ruin excellent character animation by leaving the hair for the physics engine to animate, shit looks awful
Nothing wrong with normals though. :3
Karsticles
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The two buffs I have found so far:
EX Psycho Blast travels MUCH slower.
Teleport dash is default.
Another nerf:
His VSkill no longer counters multihit moves.
EX Psycho Blast travels MUCH slower.
Teleport dash is default.
Another nerf:
His VSkill no longer counters multihit moves.
It used to be better.
Yeah, VEX Inferno chains to VEX Stomp still, but VEX Blast NEVER does. Not even on a missed tech. Weird nerf.
Stubby normals coupled with half the characters in this game having abysmal walk speeds (what the fuck did they do to Bison lmao) means neutral feels like total dogshit with some characters. Moving Nash and Bison around feels like you're travelling through molasses.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Yup, just beat a Ken with it. Both times, my opponents tried to bum rush and close distance, only to get smacked by a mic. So good.
KidA Seven
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『Inaba Resident』;182817311 said:
The only theme I dislike is Cammy's.
You can land super in the corner you just have to delay it.
Zombegoast
Member
I can barely play the game after Charlie was added, The framerate fluctuates back and forward during matches.
_Final_Phoenix_
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No, but that works better actually. EX QCB+P does more damage and is less likely to drop than my suggestion, good catch.
The two buffs I have found so far:
EX Psycho Blast travels MUCH slower.
Teleport dash is default.
Another nerf:
His VSkill no longer counters multihit moves.
It used to be better.
Yeah, VEX Inferno chains to VEX Stomp still, but VEX Blast NEVER does. Not even on a missed tech. Weird nerf.
Inferno can be combo'd in to up close off cr mp and works as a frame trap and knocks down without using meter. I wouldn't call that useless.
_Final_Phoenix_
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whoops, I meant that I can't land the EX QCB+K outside the corner, super is easy to land everywhere
Just had a pretty good game against the rank 34 R Mika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwzxhjCjQqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwzxhjCjQqU
Karsticles
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Another Bison buff: stun is up from last beta. His max damage combo does like 85% stun. Pretty nuts.
I like Bison's slow walk speed. He has the best meterless footsie tool in the game, so he has to sacrifice something.
Not yet.
10-0 with him so far. Psycho Inferno nerf hasn't affected me because, just like in Beta 1, NO ONE BLOCKS.
It's better to use V-skill in the corner after the first launcher, more damage (IIRC) and harder to miss the combo.
Widdly Scuds
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fyi if youve been one of the unlucky pc users having 2100e errors since yesterday (me) it should be fixed now
https://twitter.com/SFVServer/status/658075126676635648
https://twitter.com/SFVServer/status/658075126676635648
Bison is a completely new character from his SF4 self, just like Makoto from previous SFs, he's balanced around that slow walk speed. If you can't deal with slow ass walk speed, play characters with good walk speed, lots of those in this beta!
Karsticles
Member
Cheers!
Bison and Nash wouldn't be overpowered with better walk speeds, but they would probably actually be fun to play.
Playing matches as Bison now. Crossup mk, cr. mp to inferno is a nice BnB for a knockdown. I don't get how this move is useless to you?
"God's Beard!"
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Shouta
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Not sure why that guy didn't go for st.mp into qcf+mp on some of those jump-ins he got. It gets him damage even if he would want more.
CoyoteSpitfire
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(Without claw) MP > HK > Super
Rolling attack (any strength) > Super
V- trigger > Super
V-trigger can be used to take people out of the air from full screen. You can combo into it with his (clawed) HP. As a side note, remember that using when crouched changes the arc.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Every now and then everything comes together and you have your 2 best rounds of the day and it's all worth it. Mika is a blast.
I once had Necalli's braid wrap around his eyes during his super freeze, reminding me of Geordie LaForge. It was awesome!
I'm dropping Necalli for now, too frustrating. Stubby normals, and even so, his lk stomp can still whiff during combos. His seismos are so dangerous to use, and his furthest poke is so slow. I'll try him again when the real game comes out though. I'm going to miss his super though.
I'm trying out Rashid now, pretty fun!
You can also use V Skill after qcf+K-P if you want to build V meter.
QisTopTier
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My favorite thing about rashid is getting free combos off of anti aired tornadoes
Bison will absolutely be over powered with a fast walk speed, his normals are ridiculous.
You can combo lk scissors off ex psycho blast which combos from cr mp as well. So for one meter you can get some pretty big damage
No they're not, and they're certainly not any better than his normals in the games where he doesn't have a totally fucked movespeed.
never chun-li
yes
Bah...What do you guys know about that CIBO MATTO 1999! Straight outta purgatory all day.
Anyways, holy shit at the surprise characters. Good shit, capcom
Saw them live like 5 years ago. Shit was so good. I'm more of yuka honda guy though. I liked her album with Yoshimi
Karsticles
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Psycho Blast already provides a knockdown in that situation, and it is safe on block. Useless.
Plus, who goes for a basic frame trap that is unsafe on block when you have safe alternatives? Just use Knee Press.
It has EX value - they both do. But moves shouldn't just be useful when you EX them.
R. Mika rocks me, though. Karin is about even. Nash is so much more manageable now that his antiairs suck.
down charge is easier to combo in to and more reliable than back charge.
Are we talking about only useful when EX moves now? Chun's SBK has never been a useful tool outside of EX. This isn't uncommon in SF. You can find some minor uses for some non-ex moves, but their strength can be in EX. I don't see a problem with that.
edit: and to answer your question about who goes for that frame trap? Someone who has the read that the other person likes pushing buttons between strings. That's like... the purpose of every frame trap. Nowhere does a frame trap necessitate that it's safe.
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