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[Reizo Ryuu]

There's some sense of irony nymphae upvotes your post as "thoughtful" when your message is mostly "it works for me so it must be a you problem" or it's mcdonald's wifi or PC issues. I lol'd.

Please don't reduce my posts to nonsense you want to hear. I never said it was a "you" problem, nor did I question your specs; also actually posting those is entirely meaningless, because it's a p2p game so all variables from both sides need to be taken into account.

I was wondering what exactly causes this problem, because it hasn't been my, and others', experience.
Saying "hundreds of players complaining", doesn't really mean anything either unless we also know the number of people that don't have problems.

And before you twist my words again, I'm not saying it isn't happening to whoever is experiencing these problems. I'm wondering what causes it when all variables are ideal.

 

[Richard Packer]

This will hit them whether or not they throw out an attack, it's an offensive parry whereas you are wide open if you made a bad read with VS1.

To the point where I'm wondering how useful VS1 even is anymore, why use a parry that leaves you wide open when you have this? Not sure how it's all going to work yet.

From this page alone. These are posts a total scrub would make. Someone who has even a little bit of knowledge in SF would know better.

 

[Nymphae]

From this page alone. These are posts a total scrub would make. Someone who has even a little bit of knowledge in SF would know better.

I said be specific. Cite something that displays I don't know what I'm talking about.

my bad lol, sorry.

 

[Nymphae]

For the first quote, that is the literal difference between the two, is it not? One is an offensive parry + attack, and the other is simply a command parry, which can leave you open. How is that wrong? We don't know frame data yet.

I don't see how the second quote is incorrect, we need to know the frame data to know whether or not it will always be more useful than VS1. Ultrachen was talking about it on this Tuesday's show and they were guessing that it could be plus frames on block, which would make it the better choice to throw out, no?

 

[Richard Packer]

I said be specific. Cite something that displays I don't know what I'm talking about.

my bad lol, sorry.

I just did.

 

[Nymphae]

I just did.

Right, I apologized for jumping the gun above. How were my quotes ignorant?

 

[Richard Packer]

For the first quote, that is the literal difference between the two, is it not? One is an offensive parry + attack, and the other is simply a command parry, which can leave you open. How is that wrong? We don't know frame data yet.

Do you honestly think this new attack leaves you in a more vulnerable state then the regular parry? Capcom has done a lot of stupid things with sfv, but that would be beyond stupid if it was plus on block. If you whiff this chances are you're gonna be at a way worse disadvantage then if you whiffed a parry. Probably gonna have about the same recovery as Giefs f.hp. which means it will be easily whiff punishable.

This looks like way more risk/reward then a parry. I don't know what to tell you if you don't see that.

 

[Nymphae]

Capcom has done a lot of stupid things with sfv, but that would be beyond stupid if it was plus on block.

Well Ultradavid was suggesting it could be plus on block on this weeks show. James said it'll likely be negative, but just saying, I'm not the only one who said that. I don't really dig in as deeply as others and would never claim otherwise. I was trying to help out someone that was asking a question, you could add to that and help inform people further if you think I made an error.

 

[Rentahamster]

lol

 

[pineapplepizza]

People read waaay to much into reactions ffs lol. I gave that post a thoughtful reaction because I have experienced fairly minimal lag when I play online, similarly to R Reizo Ryuu , yet I constantly hear about how terrible the netcode is. Sorry for reacting to a post guys, jesus.

I don't know any history here why "Richard Packer" is saying that stuff towards you lol - not my intention. But the sense of irony for me is there because you upvoted his post as "thoughtful" when it's majority just self-reported experience versus my long winded post that had evidence going back to 2016 of community input. Wasn't suppose to be super serious, more just funny observation why "I dont have issues, anytime it is because my opponents have McDonald's WiFi" is a "thoughtful" reply. (Sorry, I know you didn't interpret it that way. Wasn't trying to stir up shade)

 

[BarmyDodger]

Does the GAF community ever organize any kind of fight night?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

We used to, feel free to organise something if you want.

 

[Nymphae]

Street Fighter 5: Champion Edition V-Skill 2 stream showcase now starting

www.eventhubs.com

Guess they're showing off the rest of the second V-Skills today, I am very curious what Vega is going to get.

EH had an article suggesting it could be his Crimson Terror move, but that seems a bit much for (essentially) a single button press. A good comment on that article said that Vega's V-Reversal should be the Crimson Terror move instead of the backroll, and switching that to his second V-Skill - having the back roll as part of his V-Reversal doesn't make a ton of sense I don't think.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Well....they barely showed anything.

 

[kunonabi]

Well....they barely showed anything.

Well they made it clear that they dont give a shit about Alex with all of those limitations on his new vskill. Meanwhile Dhalsim, Birdie, and Urien are getting the nuttiest shit.

 

[Richard Packer]

Well they made it clear that they dont give a shit about Alex with all of those limitations on his new vskill. Meanwhile Dhalsim, Birdie, and Urien are getting the nuttiest shit.

What are the limitations? From the trailer his v skill 2 looks pretty good.

 

[TacosNSalsa]

What are the limitations? From the trailer his v skill 2 looks pretty good.

I'm curious to ..cancelling one special into another sounds damn good, honestly it sounds more like something a v trigger would do not a v skill . Did I miss something? Like can he no longer block or does he take double damage or something?

 

[kunonabi]

What are the limitations? From the trailer his v skill 2 looks pretty good.

-Goes away if he gets hit
-Goes away after a special move is performed whether it's cancelled or not
-cant cancel from an EX move
-doesnt build v-guage unless you get the cancel off
-cant cancel into the same special
-not all specials can be cancelled into

Plus there are other questions we dont know the answers to which could hurt it even more. It will probably still end up better than vskill1 but that isnt really saying much.

 

[Richard Packer]

That really doesn't seem that bad. This vskill looks amazing and makes me want to play Alex when it comes out. As long as he can cancel into command grab or stomp it looks like it's gonna be pretty powerful.

 

[kunonabi]

That really doesn't seem that bad. This vskill looks amazing and makes me want to play Alex when it comes out. As long as he can cancel into command grab or stomp it looks like it's gonna be pretty powerful.

Command grab is unclear and is probably too slow to be of much use if it even is possible. Combo into stomp is pretty much the point of the vskill so far since it gives him a meter less hard knockdown.

The biggest problem is it doesnt really help with his core deficiencies and is just more of the same for him.

 

[Kenji Ramon]

In what sense? Please be specific. I speak my experience and don't claim to be an authority on anything.

People read waaay to much into reactions ffs lol. I gave that post a thoughtful reaction because I have experienced fairly minimal lag when I play online, similarly to R Reizo Ryuu , yet I constantly hear about how terrible the netcode is. Sorry for reacting to a post guys, jesus.

Exactly. FGC community is literally ridiculous and OTT reactions on twitter wishing giving any context about anything whatsoever.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

ngl, pretty excited about seth. looks like they have enough gimmicks to be super fun.



Also really digging the theme.

 

[Celcius]

ngl, pretty excited about seth. looks like they have enough gimmicks to be super fun.



Also really digging the theme.

So he uses a female body in this one while keeping his same voice? lol
Also, I'm not really interested in playing as bosses like Gill or Seth so will probably skip both.

 

[Cravis]

Gotta admit, it’s pretty cool seeing all the final bosses in one game.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

So he uses a female body in this one while keeping his same voice? lol
Also, I'm not really interested in playing as bosses like Gill or Seth so will probably skip both.

It makes sense if you think about it, seth was number 15, this doll is number 0, so probably the earliest prototype for a bison replacement body after the experiments that resulted in creating decapre and cammy.
It has an 'organic brain' as the trailer mentions, so the vocal chords probably just adjust to fit the persona in the brain. Why it looks like juri though? Either he absorbed some of her DNA when she "killed" him, or it's just to mock her; golden freeza style.

 

[kunonabi]

no new female voice sucks. Shame too because the summer costume looks awesome.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Bison's VS2 looking really good.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

ngl, pretty excited about seth. looks like they have enough gimmicks to be super fun.



Also really digging the theme.

Is he trans now

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

He probably never really had a gender, the trailer just calls him a 'pseudo personality asset'; sounds like some kind of hybrid AI thing like JARVIS.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Alex VS2 looks garbo.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Update is live on steam; 24.7GB

 

[Nymphae]

Nice, they gave Vega an extra move in addition to his new vskill.

 

[Whitesnake]

Capcom is out here trying to tempt me to spend money on this garbage-ass game by making Seth into a hot asian muscle android waifu. This form fits all of my tastes perfectly, almost as of this decision was made to tempt me in particular.

The waifu bait does inspire me to give in to Capacom‘s greed, for the black hair, red eyes, silver skin, and muscles all appeal to my feral instincts. If I were to describe the things I would like to do with this character I would banned from this site, and indeed any site in which my words could potentially reach the eyes of others. But my resolve is stronger than the greed of Capcom’s fighting game division. I will not partake of the devil’s fruit.

”There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” —1 Corinthians 10:13

 

[sid2vicious]

I was playing arcade mode and Gill DOES have resurrection! I got my butt kicked after that.

 

[DR2K]

Here’s the 3rd strike character you didn’t want and the SFIV character you definitely didn’t want, but with optional pussy edition.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Capcom is out here trying to tempt me to spend money on this garbage-ass game by making Seth into a hot asian muscle android waifu. This form fits all of my tastes perfectly, almost as of this decision was made to tempt me in particular.

The waifu bait does inspire me to give in to Capacom‘s greed, for the black hair, red eyes, silver skin, and muscles all appeal to my feral instincts. If I were to describe the things I would like to do with this character I would banned from this site, and indeed any site in which my words could potentially reach the eyes of others. But my resolve is stronger than the greed of Capcom’s fighting game division. I will not partake of the devil’s fruit.

”There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” —1 Corinthians 10:13

That's a dude man.

 

[GreatnessRD]

Seth looks pretty wild, but interested in seeing how people use him or shim.

But let's talk about what really matters. Why is my mans Punk the official James Harden of the FGC? I can't believe he lost! Good win for IDOM, though.

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

A few thoughts...

It was amazing to see idom win CC. I really cant believe it. Unsponsored and using multiple characters who arent considered top tier, to win the biggest event of the season? This is unreal. I thought his switch to Poison would be his downfall, but he even won that game!
I was so disappointed to see Seth show up. I expected it, but he's just such a crappy looking character - especially now. I dont even know what he is.
I hope Rashid gets heavy nerfs. Too many pro's use him and it makes watching streams boring.

 

[SALMORE]

Rashid & Karin ruined SFV for me ! as a spectator , it's just the same setups & combos over & over & over !

Am glad that players who used them got their butts kicked

 

[kunonabi]

Alex VS2 looks garbo.

It really does especially with vskill 1 getting buffed. They played way to safe with it and the limitations are killing it usefulness.

 

[dalekjay]

Capcom is out here trying to tempt me to spend money on this garbage-ass game by making Seth into a hot asian muscle android waifu. This form fits all of my tastes perfectly, almost as of this decision was made to tempt me in particular.

The waifu bait does inspire me to give in to Capacom‘s greed, for the black hair, red eyes, silver skin, and muscles all appeal to my feral instincts. If I were to describe the things I would like to do with this character I would banned from this site, and indeed any site in which my words could potentially reach the eyes of others. But my resolve is stronger than the greed of Capcom’s fighting game division. I will not partake of the devil’s fruit.

”There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” —1 Corinthians 10:13

And the voice it’s just a cherry on top! Lovely dayum

 

[abstract alien]

Air boom looks pretty good

 

[Whitesnake]

That's a dude man.

Bro you think i give a fuck

 

[TacosNSalsa]

Patch notes for Champion edition . I swear it seems like 10 people write these patch notes at times ...

They actually buffed Ryu *sniffles*

https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/as/pdf/en/adjustmentscever.pdf?h=01c823d3d68fa6ed8b1ca2a0de4cc2a7

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Don't understand the point of cammy's vs2 yet.
Like properly spaced it's safe, but then you just reset neutral, however it's also a CC that hops lows.
For now I'm guessing it's only good for baiting on wakeup/frametrap, but if you guess wrong you give up pressure....hmmmmmmm

It really does especially with vskill 1 getting buffed. They played way to safe with it and the limitations are killing it usefulness.

I really don't understand the point of it, it kills all momentum on a momentum based character, but then you lose it on hit and whiff....

 

[Life]

Nice, they gave Vega an extra move in addition to his new vskill.

It's baffling he still can't cancel his normals into specials. In a game where others have better normals and specials than him, Vega has to rely on poking you to death when he has no bar.

I mean look at his cr.MK - shit range, uncancellable. Cr.MP average range, uncancellable. Why?

Low-tier until this game dies.

 

[Nymphae]

It's baffling he still can't cancel his normals into specials. In a game where others have better normals and specials than him, Vega has to rely on poking you to death when he has no bar.

I mean look at his cr.MK - shit range, uncancellable. Cr.MP average range, uncancellable. Why?

Low-tier until this game dies.

Yeah I don`t know. I haven`t played around with the new version yet but it looks like he got some buffs. You can do more from clawless in terms of cancelling, but I`ve always liked his poke heavy style here. Looks like he got some buffs on st. MP and f+HP which should help with the poking a bit.

 

[Richard Packer]

So Ryu vskill 2 is complete garbage. Which was obvious to anyone who has ever played a fighter before. I dunno wtf these guys were thinking. Of course it's minus on block Nymphae

I played around at locals last night with sfv. I enjoy the variety this game now has, but I still don't get much enjoyment out of it. I'm going to learn how to play Poison, she seems like fun. We'll see.

Guile and G new vskills are pretty insane. I'm going to mess aroubd with Guile too, you can play like a real jackass with his new vskill.

They kinda turned sfv into marvel lite or a basic anime fighter. I haven't really processed how I feel about it. At least it makes me want to go into training mode to test shit out.

 

[Business]

Capcom is out here trying to tempt me to spend money on this garbage-ass game by making Seth into a hot asian muscle android waifu. This form fits all of my tastes perfectly, almost as of this decision was made to tempt me in particular.

The waifu bait does inspire me to give in to Capacom‘s greed, for the black hair, red eyes, silver skin, and muscles all appeal to my feral instincts. If I were to describe the things I would like to do with this character I would banned from this site, and indeed any site in which my words could potentially reach the eyes of others. But my resolve is stronger than the greed of Capcom’s fighting game division. I will not partake of the devil’s fruit.

”There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” —1 Corinthians 10:13

 

[Nymphae]

Which was obvious to anyone who has ever played a fighter before. I dunno wtf these guys were thinking. Of course it's minus on block Nymphae

Dude you are insufferable, give it a rest. Stop @'ing me because you feel like a superior SF player, I don't give a shit. I am glad you're enjoying the game now.