Gunslinger
Member
Nothing wrong with that. You buy whichever game you wanna buy with your cash bro.
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Street Fighter V patch releasing March 28th, Alex on the 30th, more info
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Is there any science to that or is that just a guess?
Steamspy has PC sales at 150k. First week sales in Europe were like 80k, Japanese sales were 45k. US retail was around 200k according to NPD. Factor in digital sales and any additional sales over the past month and I'd say 500-700k is more accurate.
Which is not awful but still not very good and way below Capcom's expectations.
Radical Edward
Member
Yeah, RQing is pretty much nonexistent in casual and you still get fm an exp. Matchmaking might be a little skewed, though. I find playimg causual matches a lot harder than ranked because a lot of the bronze ppl I'm facing should be in a higher bracket but are either sandbagging to get easy points or just not playing ranked bc of Rquitters. Either way, you are right RQing isnt as bad but I hear it is a little rough the closer you get to gold because of the trophy.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
I think I'm just gonna revisit the game I'm January when it's finished.
The Lone Dragon
Member
That's what Battle Lounge is for.
Casual is just for finding quick matches against random people.
i HeaR MusiC
Member
What old school game has costume unlocks? Maybe colors... to my knowledge you could never unlock entirely different costumes in SF games by just playing the game. You guys are reaching for anything. Correct me if I'm wrong.
YOU DON'T ACTUALLY UNLOCK THE OUTFITS FOR THE AMOUNT THEY GIVE YOU FOR THE QUICK WORK YOU PUT IN
Hightlight-bligee here for folks that don't get it.
Thank you for the correction.
SO IN OTHER WORDS: YOU DON'T ACTUALLY UNLOCK THE OUTFITS THROUGH STORY MODE WORK BY 2X You unlock them through HAVING TO GRIND ONLINE 4X to the additional money. How is that not a problem? It's not a 1:1 trade-off with that mode in regards to unlocking the outfits.
"Oh you put in that work to access the ability to buy these outfits but we don't give you the cash to actually buy them all because we want you to spend money for something that should be free because it's two minutes work and already on the disc! Please understand!"
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
I think hes saying that story costumes should just be unlocked when you finish that character's story and that the fight money you should get be equivalent to the cost of the costume at least. I get that its annoying to have to "buy" the costumes when they're already in the game but I get why they're doing it. There needs to be some sort of cash sink or else people would get the majority of characters for free very easily. You can also purchase colors but I doubt they cost that much. They've also been very upfront about this for months now. just saying.
Jack Random
Member
what money? there's not money involved here
wait i'm confused what's your issue with this again?
lol
Omnistalgic
Member
What? You unlocked the costume by being awarded fight money. I'm not sure i understand what you're talking about here. And you get like 10k per story I think, and easy survival is pretty quick, those modes give you a lot of FM at least for a handful of your favorite characters. Ok read your edit, hmmmm...I don't have a problem with it but ok. You get good points for those easy story modes and Mika and Zangief are funny! Lol
I dunno how people got 700k or more, I only managed 500k so far.
Jack Random
Member
so your complaint is that you do not unlock things fast enough.
You should have led with that.
Still sounds like you're making mountains out of molehills and the obnoxious red text isn't helping.
They're alt costumes, and they're free. I don't think having to grind for them is that ridiculous.
Jack Random
Member
i believe the new modes in the march update will also earn FM, shouldn't be hard to accumulate. i just want something to spend it on.
Looking forward to the trials and Alex (I guess). I'll try him but typically I don't enjoy grapplers.
Kind of bummed no mention about a real RQ fix or being able to buy colors with FM. If I can't buy colors after this update I just might go download that trainer and get it taken care of. Survival isn't my cup of tea.
Kind of bummed no mention about a real RQ fix or being able to buy colors with FM. If I can't buy colors after this update I just might go download that trainer and get it taken care of. Survival isn't my cup of tea.
skLaFarebear
Member
Yes, you have to play the game a lot to unlock stuff.
No Capcom won't make it free because as far as we know from day one story costumes, colors, and Alex are the only thing in the shop you can buy with FM. People with the season pass and/or don't care about colors would have nothing to buy atm and Capcom would prefer people to spend their FM on things that aren't characters. That's just how it is.
Omnistalgic
Member
Yeah I'm going to play more casual now with best out of 3. My favorite mode is battle lounge, but you don't get exp -_-
skLaFarebear
Member
You can buy colors with FM.
Radical Edward
Member
To be fair, that's only because old school games didn't have online stores. In today's world, costumes, for any game, usually come at a price. At least you can unlock them for free in sfv, if you choose. I'm an old school gamer and I'm fine with this. I'm just happy that the games I spend $80 on today are better than the shit I payed $80 for back then. I bought ljn's Wolverine for xmas one year with all my gift money. Lol.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Maybe so, if getting a battle lounge going with an opponent with a good connection was currently possible.
Search for lounge
Click random lounge
Lounge is full
Click random lounge
Lounge is full
Search for lounge
Click random lounge
Lounge is no longer available
Click lounge
Joining lounge with opponent on other side of planet
Kill self
HeroInGreen
Member
So Alex will have a story prologue but no trials? I think they haven't said anything about trials for future characters, right? It's always "combo trials for all 16 characters"...
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Its with the in game currency. Sucks but yeah
They said they would like to do trials for DLC characters but they aren't sure at this point.
From what I understand its all story, all easy survival, all normal survival, all hard survival and some hell survival and people are close to if not over 1mil.
Meanwhile I'm at like 6 normal survivals and that puts me around 350k.
He's arguing that you shouldn't have to spend Fight Money on those costumes whatsoever because they are already in the game and you use them in their respective Story Modes. He is arguing, had this been any other game, those costumes would have been unlocked after completing the character's respective Story Mode -- you wouldn't have to complete their Story and then spend Fight Money to actually unlock it. That just completing the character's Story Mode isn't actually unlocking it and that's a problem for him.
That's what he's arguing and venting about.
skLaFarebear
Member
They said it's something they want to do, but have no plans to do it yet. My reason why they won't do it yet is if the characters release and on the off chance they're broken and need an emergency balancing, they don't want to rework both the character and their trial mode
This is a pretty nice way of dealing with a schedule slip...they cut the one thing that only benefits them and offered some extras. Considering they're still supporting the PC release so far and I am not really hung up on ranking points/ rage quitting, I'm completely alright with this.
I agree with him. But man the bold red text is obnoxious as hell.
Gunslinger
Member
What happened to the daily challenges?
Secret Character
Member
It's more than likely just the EX colors. Some of them are phenomenal.
Radical Edward
Member
Are you playing ryu now? I heard you had a scary ken. We should play sometime. I suck, badly but have been trying to learn ryu. Honestly, srk comes out way too often by mistake because of button shortcuts or negative edge and when that happens, I get punished badly.
skLaFarebear
Member
I'd assume most major tourney streamers will just buy them if/when the zenny (real money) implementation hits.
entremet
Member
You mean like ganguro Cammy?
See, all I wanted was netcode, matchmaking, battle lounge and RQ fixes. The trails and stuff? That's basically adding in base game shit. I'm not giving them props for that. That's not extra, free content. That's basic, base game shit that should have been there day fucking one. They don't get credit for that.
I'm hyped for Alex however I fully expect 8 player battle lounges to be busted as fuck and things to get worse before they get better. People are saying RQs don't happen much anymore? LOL 3/4 of every page in the OT are people complaining about RQs still.
Why are down on Capcom? Well, I just explained a lot of reasons why. The problems with matchmaking and netcode are still there. Then they basically can't even get their cashshop right for launch. A CASH SHOP. We can not unlock and use costumes we all unlocked on day one a month after launch before they can't get their shop right.
Say that out loud and you'll realize how silly that sounds in 2016. Capcom, yo. Realize this was supposed to be a service model game. lol
I'm hyped for Alex however I fully expect 8 player battle lounges to be busted as fuck and things to get worse before they get better. People are saying RQs don't happen much anymore? LOL 3/4 of every page in the OT are people complaining about RQs still.
Why are down on Capcom? Well, I just explained a lot of reasons why. The problems with matchmaking and netcode are still there. Then they basically can't even get their cashshop right for launch. A CASH SHOP. We can not unlock and use costumes we all unlocked on day one a month after launch before they can't get their shop right.
Say that out loud and you'll realize how silly that sounds in 2016. Capcom, yo. Realize this was supposed to be a service model game. lol
actually really looking forward to trials for once. I'm sure there will be some bullshit trials but I doubt we'll see impracticality on the level of SSF4's. I really want to branch out into more characters and it'd be more fun than trying to imitate youtube videos, plus SF5's execution has been quite easy for me so far.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Are you referring to the story mode costumes?
Secret Character
Member
Yup. And OG Dictator. Easily some of the best colors in the game.
The cash shop has nothing to do with story mode outfits.
There is nothing to buy other than Alex and 5 premium outfits in the cash shop right now. If you're going to criticize them for anything, it's that they don't have any content for their games as service game for consumers to spend money on.
Because I can't get out of the lower levels.
If I lose 5 and win 5, but 3 of my wins don't count because I get rage quit on, that's a recipe for staying Bronze FOREVER.
And none of the rage quitting asshats I've reported with video evidence to Capcom have ever been penalized as far as I can tell.
skLaFarebear
Member
The combo potential isn't as ridiculous as SF4's was so probably. Most combos in SFV are actually practical in a real match.
It says unlocks stay unlocked for you but you'll still have to purchase the character once the shop is out, so I'd assume so?