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pe·do·phil·i·a

sexual desire in an adult for a child.

That body doesn't look like it belongs to a child. OH TEH NOES I MUST BE A PEDOPHILE LOLZ. ::

 

[SantaC]

that is possibly the ugliest person I ever seen

 

[Pimpwerx]

Interesting discussion, despite the hilarious topic. That kid is screwed six ways from Sunday. A friend's father went upstate for two years when his sister-in-law ratted him to the cops for owning child porn on a CD. He was a elementary school teacher, and his neighbors tried to claim he touched their kids only after they found out he was arrested. It's strange, b/c he's a former priest and a really nice man otherwise. He used to take kids to his lakehouse often (his wife and kids would be out there, so don't get ideas), and they got a lot out of it. The arrest ruined his life, and more importantly, ruined the live of his family.

The discussion is good, though. There are far more people who are attracted to children than get arrested. I'd throw out some high percentage of posters in this thread, but it would just cause lots of defensive posturing. You can claim otherwise, but let's look at this situation. This kid got busted for porn featuring 7-14yo. I graduated 8th grade at 13, and a lot of kids graduate at 14. So, if you were to include middle-school students in there, and you did not have the age neatly labeled for you, a lot of you would fap yourself raw to their images. I'm not saying pedophilia is latent in all of us, but I think it's also a little reactionary to just spew nonsense about sicko this and that, when a vast majority of you would form a similar level of "attraction" (or lust, if you will) towards children of the same age that dumb bastard found attractive.

I guess a distinction is that he would actively seek out these images to satiate his desires, whereas most of us do not. But is that an issue of motivation or attraction? I think it's the former, but I think pedophilia still lies heavily in the latter. Just as some people are more motivated to act on other urges, I think the people who get caught are just the ones more motivated. Damn, it's kinda early, and I lost my train of thought. I just thought the thread had a good mix of laughs and psych evaluation. I'm gonna end this post....here. PEACE.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

We're not talking about 15 or 16 year old girls that look like they are 18 or 20. We're talking about children.

People are not born pedophiles. It typically has some kind of psychologically traumatic experience that triggers it. I can't even name a possibility why people would want to have sex with a child.

These people are mentally ill. A child is not going to respond well to molestation or sex at a young age. If there has ever really been an instance of it, I have yet to read it. The child tends to grow up with neuroses and possibly psychoses. There's enough science to back it up. Comparing it to homosexuality is dumb because at least with homosexuals, there is mutual consent between knowing adults.

 

[Raven.]

Nope you are wrong on the 1st point

as to the 2nd point I'm not a conspiracy theory nut, i'm a civil liberties nut. merely making possion of just images carry such a huge penlty which are easily reproducable, is incredibly incredibly dangerous, you don't particulary like a person who isn't that reputable already? just get child porn on their computer, report them while being hidden on a tip line and viola, revenge is yours. it ruins thier life so much more then framing them for murder and the burden of proof is next to nothing.

This stratagy also works extremly well for drugs too, you don't even need to plant the drugs, if the person has a gun and can't hear very well

That is true, and we've to remember that, as I've said, this affects nudist families' rights, in this country. I honestly don't know how they deal with family photos at all in this country, it could be a serious problem for foreign nudist families that come here, without knowing the laws are that strict over here.

It's also a problem for some film connoisseurs that want original and unedited versions of all their movies. Suppose some of them were fans of Brooke Shields and owned all of her movies, their property(e.g. Pretty Baby.) could actually have become illegal by now, at least in this country. I'm not sure if such movies would be exempt, as they've value and are considered art, from whatever laws have been made in washington, but it wouldn't surprise if some of the films they owned are no longer legal to own... and for simply having the movies they've legally bought and had with them for years, they're now candidates for prison time, maybe even unknowingly.

 

[PjotrStroganov]

What happened to this thread? I thought it was about making fun of a pedophile bastard and then it turned into a discussion of how pedophilia is not a choice and such nonsense. Are people trying to rationalize pedophilia? Why?

Because a witch hunt isn't the solution. Trying to understand how people get this screwed up and then preventing it at the root is the way to the solution.

 

[Booser]

Hey dude, long time no talk!

You ever get my mix cd?

:lol :lol

that is possibly the ugliest person I ever seen

*cries*

 

[xabre]

What happened to this thread? I thought it was about making fun of a pedophile bastard and then it turned into a discussion of how pedophilia is not a choice and such nonsense. Are people trying to rationalize pedophilia? Why?

I don't believe it is a choice. Let's face it, why would a person risk complete ostracization and rejection from society based on an absurd and completely unrealistic infatuation with minors? It's a mental illness, brought on by a variety of factors throughout the individuals life (i.e. abuse at a young age etc).

Is this a rationalization of the behaviour? Maybe it is, but I think trying to rationalize paedophilia and thus develop a better understanding of it and why it happens is infinitely more constructive then mindlessly condemning it with emotive terms like 'evil' and 'paedophile bastard'.

 

[jamesinclair]

I don't believe it is a choice. Let's face it, why would a person risk complete ostracization and rejection from society based on an absurd and completely unrealistic infatuation with minors? It's a mental illness, brought on by a variety of factors throughout the individuals life (i.e. abuse at a young age etc).
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I agree that not all pedophiles are evil, but disagree with this point. People to hard drugs willingly, even though there are heavy sentences if caught, which could essentially ruin a life (career over).

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I agree that not all pedophiles are evil, but disagree with this point. People to hard drugs willingly, even though there are heavy sentences if caught, which could essentially ruin a life (career over).

yeah but hard drugs are awesome and affect nobody except yourself?

Unless you have a family or rob/kill to get the cash for such things of course.

 

[McLesterolBeast]

Not all pedophiles are the demons people make them out to be? Dude, they have sex with children. They rape children. They molest children. They violate children. If that's not sick and utterly repulsive I don't know what is.

This thread is about possessing images on a computer. Not raping. Possessing a picture of a crime being commited isnt punishable by law for ANY other types of images, because they dont carry the taboo.

Should people who download gore videos also be subject to criminal prosecution? People who obsessively download that are probably far greater dangers to society.

What about 9/11 video?. What kind of sick freaks would possess a video of an event that lead to the death of so many?


It's pretty ****ing sickening to think that someone can be tried for having downloaded an image on the internet. Im sure the authorities dont target people who have some random image of a girl who looks 19 but is actually 16, but it's still ****ing terrible to think of worst case scenarios.

"Sir, we recently found out that some feature of the week at bang bros was underaged. our records show that you got a hacked password for that site. you are under arrest"

 

[Tumalu]

I agree that not all pedophiles are evil, but disagree with this point. People to hard drugs willingly, even though there are heavy sentences if caught, which could essentially ruin a life (career over).

With hard drugs though, anyone could get addicted to them (assuming they tried them once). While they did have to willingly make the decision the first time, in later cases it may have more to do with the addiction.

The difference is that normal people don't have urges to have sex with pre-pubescent children nor would they develop such urges even if they "did it once" for some bizarre reason. There has to be something that causes some people have the attraction in the first place while others don't. This is the factor that is most likely beyond their control. Obviously, they can control whether or not they act on that attraction, but the attraction itself surely isn't something that they choose to have.

 

[McLesterolBeast]

The difference is that normal people don't have urges to have sex with pre-pubescent children nor would they develop such urges even if they "did it once" for some bizarre reason.

So i take it you've tried...

 

[Tumalu]

So i take it you've tried...

Obviously not. I'm not accessing GAF from the state prison. :lol

But do you disagree? Given that most people find the notion disgusting, do you think that a 16 year old guy having sex with a 15 year old girl (who he thought was 16) would trigger an attraction to 15 year-olds for the rest of his life? I highly doubt it.

On the other hand, most people don't find the notion of doing drugs "disgusting" per se. And there's no question that they could develop an addiction if they got started.