Suikoden 1 & 2 HD launching 3/6/2025
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Have they detailed the QoL changes like auto battle, difficulty modes etc?
saintjules
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I don't think I've seen it yet apart from the visual changes and the in battle menu.
saintjules
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Please play the first Suikoden. Nothing like it. Ending got me emotional when I first played this back in 1997.
Sadly, the series gets progressively worse after 2.
Rambone
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I kind of felt the same way. If Konami was going to do another Suikoden, they should just re-do Suikoden 1 and 2 from the ground up (like FF remake) I'm sure they wouldn't be capable of making a brand new story, world, etc.
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DeVeAn
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Really that good huh? Never had the chance to play these.
Shadowstar39
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About time, been waiting years. I guess I could go dust off my vita, psp or psp classic, but damn I want this on my switch. Can't wait
Bumblebeetuna
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I need to finish DQ11, play through Avowed, and then start this up.
Walter Matthau
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These games have some of the best pacing of any RPG ever created. I'm usually someone who gets bored part way through an RPG, but these really hold your attention all the way through without ever feeling like you're just wasting time.
The stories are grounded, music is great, and the battle system is fun. Recruiting is meant to be the main hook for the series yet I see it as just a bonus on top of an already great game. The visuals aren't likely to blow your mind because we've had a recent renaissance for pixel art, but they hold up better than most games from the PS1 generation.
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E-Cat
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Bit of both. Some things were redesigned. If it were purely a remaster, then it would just be upscaling res, textures and maybe making it 60fps.
Bad art™
saintjules
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saintjules
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Personally my all time favorite JRPG. I loved it more than the 2nd game. I highly recommend the soundtrack. For a 1997 title it's quite special.
The soundtrack is to die for personally and the story can make you emotional at times. I played this when I was 14. I lost it at the end but more so because I couldn't believe it was over.
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Krathoon
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This is a problem with remasters and remakes. Censorship. They pulled it with the Tomb Raider Remaster.
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Grizzled Ghost
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I only ever played 3. Do the first 2 also split the narrative between 3 different groups?
They do not.
BennyBlanco
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StereoVsn
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Do I double dip on Switch and Steam copy? That is the question.Suikoden I&II HD Remaster Gate Rune and Dunan Unification Wars | PC Steam Game | Fanatical
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BennyBlanco
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Do I double dip on Switch and Steam copy? That is the question.
I'm buying the Switch physical copy and not opening it
Dirk Benedict
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I'll stick with the originals, which I can play on my PS1. If I want to go better? Duckstation can make it looks really nice.
Just like the Lunar Collection, I'm good. I despise these redesigns and butchered localizations.
Just like the Lunar Collection, I'm good. I despise these redesigns and butchered localizations.
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StereoVsn
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Yep, and Going to do the same with Lunar!
I'm buying the Switch physical copy and not opening it
StereoVsn
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I have the originals as well, but still will get these. Could these be better? Sure, but hey, I have a ton of nostalgia for these titles and would rather get these vs most modern games.
Dirk Benedict
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If they keep changing original games for stupid reasons, I will not support. Simple as that. If they change Localization to convey what they truly mean? I am all for that.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
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I'm thinking of double dipping. I played both of those games recently on emulation. I tried to play it on my Vita but my saves got deleted and both games ran super slow on it. I hope we get a Suikoden 6 in the future but I wonder if it will be a direct sequel to Suikoden 3 since that game had some cliffhangers in regard to the story. It's sad that the original creator died. I'm a huge fan of the franchise. Eiyuden Chronicles is great but I love Suikoden more
saintjules
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Mozzarella
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This is the best JRPG of all time imo, does what JRPGs does the best, plays to the subgenre strengths the most.
Still, not sure i will get this, the improvements don't seem worth the full price.
Still, not sure i will get this, the improvements don't seem worth the full price.
saintjules
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Northeastmonk
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Suikoden II is such a great game. Playing it again with all the QoL improvements will be good.
saintjules
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Vyse
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Me to a T!
StereoVsn
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Yep, planning to do this with the Switch physical copy.
saintjules
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Bumblebeetuna
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Yep, PS1 and eventually Saturn IIRC.
Pallas
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IIRC Suikoden 1 had some extra features on the Saturn version. Too bad that isn't coming over in the remake.
Shifty1897
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It's old but relatively short, and you can import your Suikoden 1 save into 2 for some nice bonuses.
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Shifty1897
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Reviews are out:
www.metacritic.com
Reviews seem a little nitpicky. "Fast forwarding battles makes the music speed up too!" "The event scene viewer is locked behind a game completion!" "Autosaves only happen in rooms with save points!"
Okay so the game is bug free, looks great, and plays like how you remember. Sounds good to me.
Suikoden I & II HD Remaster: Gate Rune and Dunan Unification Wars Reviews
The legendary Konami JRPGs Suikoden I and Suikoden II have now been remastered in HD! The Story of Suikoden I: A once renowned hero turns into a violent tyrant, and an empire falls into decline. A Liberation Army is rising up in an act of rebellion against an oppressive rule. One by one the...
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Reviews seem a little nitpicky. "Fast forwarding battles makes the music speed up too!" "The event scene viewer is locked behind a game completion!" "Autosaves only happen in rooms with save points!"
Okay so the game is bug free, looks great, and plays like how you remember. Sounds good to me.
Pallas
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I would definitely play 1 first, because you can import your save and pick up an extra character that was in 1(if you don't know already know whom it is, I won't spoil
It but he's a bit of a badass) plus if I'm not mistaken the things you named in 1 also carry over to 2.
sigmaZ
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Crazy that looks better than the remake.
Dev1lXYZ
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Genso Suikoden was the first PS1 RPG that I imported. My friends dropped Beyond The Beyond like a hot rock as soon as it landed on my doorstep. 
It was mind blowing at the time and we never thought it was ever going to come stateside. It was never a pretty game graphically even when it was new-scaling effects in the battles were it for eye candy special effects. The battles were remarkable in their simplicity and flow where attacks came off between simultaneous characters, which had never been seen by any of us at the time. They also loaded really fast, which made us think the PS1 was a powerful machine! When the U.S. version finally came out, I got to experience the full story and it was like a second renaissance all over again. To me, it's the same kind of fun that Nocturne In The Moonlight (Symphony of The Night) has, only in JRPG format and it remains to this day for me.
It was mind blowing at the time and we never thought it was ever going to come stateside. It was never a pretty game graphically even when it was new-scaling effects in the battles were it for eye candy special effects. The battles were remarkable in their simplicity and flow where attacks came off between simultaneous characters, which had never been seen by any of us at the time. They also loaded really fast, which made us think the PS1 was a powerful machine! When the U.S. version finally came out, I got to experience the full story and it was like a second renaissance all over again. To me, it's the same kind of fun that Nocturne In The Moonlight (Symphony of The Night) has, only in JRPG format and it remains to this day for me.
saintjules
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Genso Suikoden was the first PS1 RPG that I imported. My friends dropped Beyond The Beyond like a hot rock as soon as it landed on my doorstep.
The battle system was like a breath of fresh air for me. And I'm saying this after playing games like Super Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger and FFVI (III in the States). They're all good at what they set out to do, but when the music came on, Suikoden's battles just gave you an adrenaline rush.
I actually first started playing this game without a memory card (I was 14 with no job), until I eventually got one. It was brutal when I died.
But yeah I rented this game first at Blockbuster before finally finding it used at Electronic Boutique (EBgames back then). Hasn't left my collection since.
Mod Edit: The review thread is up, so let's use that as the main point for discussion: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/suikoden-i-ii-hd-remaster-reviews-thread.1681462/. Thanks!
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