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Summer Anime 2015 |OT| SharingMana

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I thought that hope died once people watched KLK.

Some are delusional and expect Trigger to make a Gurren Lagann. They never will.

I already gave up hope on Ufotable to save anime after FSN and that one that is coming this season based off a video game with ridiculous anime people fighting monsters with giant weapons.

I'll laugh my ass off if fucking that Dragon Ball Z season ends up saving anime.
 

Thoraxes

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So has there been a food porn show in anime that didn't seek to keep attention from otaku by having ecchi?

Ben-to was the other one I can think of. And I'm not even gonna mention the one about the two girls that aired like a season or 2 ago where they made orgasm faces.
Bento had ecchi scenes though.

Koufuku Graffiti is a good cute food porn show.
 

yami4ct

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How is LWA2 going to be made available for those that didn't Kickstart? Sounds like something I should see.

Some are delusional and expect Trigger to make a Gurren Lagann. They never will.

I already gave up hope on Ufotable to save anime after FSN and that one that is coming this season based off a video game with ridiculous anime people fighting monsters with giant weapons.

I'll laugh my ass off if fucking that Dragon Ball Z season ends up saving anime.

We all know Madhouse is the one and true savior. One Punch Man will be great.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Toriko?

Kind of counts but the art is too ugly to be considered "food porn".
 

javac

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I'm not going to watch the digital version, I'll wait for the physical version, hopefully it isn't too far away!
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I'm pretty sure less people use Anime Network than Daisuki. Sentai had to put everything on Hulu to make some money.

I rather liked Neon Alley and was sad to see it go. The concept was good, but a hard sell to people. It actually inspired me to get Fate/Zero after hearing the dub one random night. Its failure didn't bode well for dubs being a big motivating factor for streaming though. It's just too easier (and cheaper) to get subtitled versions now.

Streaming could be in the downward spiral phase, especially as companies grab different titles. It's different than Japan where we're starting to see multiple companies with the same titles (example: Euphonium was on NicoNico (both live broadcasts and its own channel for later viewing), dAnimeStore, U-Next, Bandai Channel, and AnimePass). Internationally, you have Crunchy OR Funi/Viewster OR Hulu OR Daisuki. Only Aniplex titles go on multiple sites now.
Yeah, I think Attack on Titan was really the first one to be on both sites simultaneously.
Also AnimeSols died I supposed, but that doesn't count as part of the bubble since it was probably never going to work anyway. lol

Ultimately I'm not sure what strategy will work. I think most anime fans don't care about drama, so CR chasing jdrama licenses probably doesn't help them. And for whatever reason, people love anime dubs, but Funi seems to be more interested in burning money now. Especially since they basically gave up distribution of discs and are essentially out of that game.
 
How is LWA2 going to be made available for those that didn't Kickstart? Sounds like something I should see.



We all know Madhouse is the one and true savior. One Punch Man will be great.

Unless they give us another Parasyte with mediocre animation especially in fight scenes. :(

Man Bones or Mappa should of been the ones to adapt OnePunch Man because they actually can do sakuga scenes properly.
 
Yeah, I think Attack on Titan was really the first one to be on both sites simultaneously.
Also AnimeSols died I supposed, but that doesn't count as part of the bubble since it was probably never going to work anyway. lol

Ultimately I'm not sure what strategy will work. I think most anime fans don't care about drama, so CR chasing jdrama licenses probably doesn't help them. And for whatever reason, people love anime dubs, but Funi seems to be more interested in burning money now. Especially since they basically gave up distribution of discs and are essentially out of that game.

AnimeSols wasn't related to anything and was doomed when it was NA-only.

Crunchy's dramas are doing well, so I'm not worried about that. It's the loss of additional revenue the (previous) all-access license had that worries me.

Dubs are popular and a great way to get people to watch shows that weren't used to subs, but it's just not feasible to dub everything you have. Sentai's easily the smartest with that.

Funi's distribution is likely better now in theory. Universal can get into more physical stores and get better deals on discounts than Funi could before, but Funi has to move enough product for Universal to continue. It's a decent risk-high reward strategy pending the titles can move, which doesn't have good signs with the decrease in unit sales.
 

Clov

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Alright, so I need AnimeGaf's help with something. I'm going to get one Aniplex title, and I need to decide which one I get. My choices are Fate/Zero Set 1, Bakemonogatari, or the 8th Kara no Kyoukai movie.

Fate/Zero Set 1 I mostly want to get because I already have set II, and I'd like to complete my collection of it. Bakemonogatari is the same price, and I'd really like to have the first season of it. Kara no Kyoukai's 8th movie is more affordable than both, and it's something I enjoyed. Still, it's not a full series worth of content.

Which should I pick up?
 

duckroll

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Wow that sucks. That's basically the entire climax sequence. :(

Imagine if the video cuts off right after the arm breaks out from the ground. And then, you get really upset that it cut off. You go online to bitch about it, and your friends are telling you how AWESOME the ending is!
 

Articalys

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Streaming could be in the downward spiral phase, especially as companies grab different titles. It's different than Japan where we're starting to see multiple companies with the same titles (example: Euphonium was on NicoNico (both live broadcasts and its own channel for later viewing), dAnimeStore, U-Next, Bandai Channel, and AnimePass). Internationally, you have Crunchy OR Funi/Viewster OR Hulu OR Daisuki. Only Aniplex titles go on multiple sites now.
What are the root causes of that difference? And don't a good lot of the Funi/Sentai/Aniplex series all show up on Hulu pretty quickly after they're simulcast elsewhere?
 

jbug617

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Alright, so I need AnimeGaf's help with something. I'm going to get one Aniplex title, and I need to decide which one I get. My choices are Fate/Zero Set 1, Bakemonogatari, or the 8th Kara no Kyoukai movie.

Fate/Zero Set 1 I mostly want to get because I already have set II, and I'd like to complete my collection of it. Bakemonogatari is the same price, and I'd really like to have the first season of it. Kara no Kyoukai's 8th movie is more affordable than both, and it's something I enjoyed. Still, it's not a full series worth of content.

Which should I pick up?

Fate/Zero Set 1. I don't like to have an incomplete set.
 

Crocodile

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Parasyte was fantastic most of the time.

Not really?

The problem is that disc sales are dying and the streaming subscription model thing is the only thing that works at the moment and the two companies are competing with each other to get exclusive shows.

Before Funimation did simuldubs, the Crunchyroll guys straight up said they licensed everything because a) the licenses were cheap and b) the subbers were college students looking for part time work, so the model made sense. They grabbed shows no one would watch because the cost to them was negligible.

The fact that the price is being driven up but the number of people watching has presumably peaked is why Funi started doing "Simudubs" and CR gave up and rolled their Manga, Drama, and Anime subs into one membership.

So basically instead of competing to license shows to put on the shelves of Best Buy, they are competing to license shows to put on their respective streaming services? Outside colluding or finding a way to make their streaming services appealing outside from having exclusive access to particular shows, I'm not sure how one combats this issue. What do you suggest?

Yeah, I think Attack on Titan was really the first one to be on both sites simultaneously.
Also AnimeSols died I supposed, but that doesn't count as part of the bubble since it was probably never going to work anyway. lol

Ultimately I'm not sure what strategy will work. I think most anime fans don't care about drama, so CR chasing jdrama licenses probably doesn't help them. And for whatever reason, people love anime dubs, but Funi seems to be more interested in burning money now. Especially since they basically gave up distribution of discs and are essentially out of that game.

Yeah, what mystical reason could be the cause of people preferring to watch television shows in a language they natively understand? :p
 
Alright, so I need AnimeGaf's help with something. I'm going to get one Aniplex title, and I need to decide which one I get. My choices are Fate/Zero Set 1, Bakemonogatari, or the 8th Kara no Kyoukai movie.

Fate/Zero Set 1 I mostly want to get because I already have set II, and I'd like to complete my collection of it. Bakemonogatari is the same price, and I'd really like to have the first season of it. Kara no Kyoukai's 8th movie is more affordable than both, and it's something I enjoyed. Still, it's not a full series worth of content.

Which should I pick up?

I own the first two and I'd say Bake. Not only do you get the 15 episodes, you also have the character commentaries subtitled for each episode. Nisio wrote these just for the anime, so it's a fun extra that was never done by the fans.
 

Quasar

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What, no Tamayura love here? WTF?

I obviously need to keep reversing as I'm not sure what this is in reference to.

EDIT: Well I'm cautiously excited. Never heard of Nozomi before so I don't know how they treat their releases. So want the whole thing on BluRay though.
 

yami4ct

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Don't get me wrong I did enjoy the anime but unfortunately the fight scenes were pretty mediocre especially for Madhouse standards.

Not really?

I thought they did fine given what they had to work with. The fight scenes in Parasyte weren't really conducive to the most dynamic of animation. I think HxH especially proves Madhouse still has it. I expect them to bring that A game to OPM as well.
 

Articalys

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I own the first two and I'd say Bake. Not only do you get the 15 episodes, you also have the character commentaries subtitled for each episode. Nisio wrote these just for the anime, so it's a fun extra that was never done by the fans.
So what's the reason those never showed up on any further AoA -mongatari release anyway? Cost savings? Wanted to release them faster and didn't want to take the extra time to translate them? AoJ said "no"?
 
So what's the reason those never showed up on any further AoA -mongatari release anyway? Cost savings? Wanted to release them faster and didn't want to take the extra time to translate them? AoJ said "no"?

Seiyuu agency rights issues. Likely with Sakamoto since she's very strict with her rights (she's the only character not to sing an opening). Once hers had to be left off Nise, there was no point to continue translating the others and leaving hers off.
 

duckroll

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Seiyuu agency rights issues. Likely with Sakamoto since she's very strict with her rights (she's the only character not to sing an opening). Once hers had to be left off Nise, there was no point to continue translating the others and leaving hers off.

I've heard it mentioned before that she refuses to sing character songs and do silly "in-character" promotional stuff. Do you know if it's because she wants to keep her singing career and her voice acting career separate?
 
I've heard it mentioned before that she refuses to sing character songs and do silly "in-character" promotional stuff. Do you know if it's because she wants to keep her singing career and her voice acting career separate?

I've heard that it's more a control issue; character songs are usually written by others and so she would want to write the lyrics and have more control over the backtrack. She's done character commentaries, commercials, and next episode previews in-character (all for the -monogatari series), so I think it's more music related for that in the Japanese market.

Internationally, she'd (or her agency would) like to have more control over the translation of her stuff, so that's probably why they're not willing to do rights as easily. Shows are a bit easier to do since that's worked out beforehand.
 
The arts for them viewing a movie are good.
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firehawk12

Subete no aware
So basically instead of competing to license shows to put on the shelves of Best Buy, they are competing to license shows to put on their respective streaming services? Outside colluding or finding a way to make their streaming services appealing outside from having exclusive access to particular shows, I'm not sure how one combats this issue. What do you suggest?
Well, restraint as ultimate suggests. Hell, Funi is starting to get into the anime production game (although I guess they did that with the Bioware movies), and honestly this will probably end in disaster. Except now that people have gotten paid to do subs, I wonder if any of these people would even consider going back to doing subbing for free as "fans". lol

Yeah, what mystical reason could be the cause of people preferring to watch television shows in a language they natively understand? :p
Well, beyond the fact that I think the acting is generally bad or at least bland, I just think it's better to watch anything in their native language. I wouldn't want to see a dubbed version of Borgen, for example.

AnimeSols wasn't related to anything and was doomed when it was NA-only.
I just meant in terms of trying to get old anime to buff up an archive. No one gives a shit about old anime. Hell, no one gives a shit about last year's anime. lol

Crunchy's dramas are doing well, so I'm not worried about that. It's the loss of additional revenue the (previous) all-access license had that worries me.
I think they believe that contracting it all into one sub will help their numbers, but I think they are two completely different audiences. Especially since kdrama fans are probably a different group of people than anime fans (or even jdrama fans). Then they are also competing with Viki, which is a whole different can of worms.

Dubs are popular and a great way to get people to watch shows that weren't used to subs, but it's just not feasible to dub everything you have. Sentai's easily the smartest with that.
I think Funi can do it since they have their own studios anyway, and they presumably are planning to use these dubs on their disc releases. I know someone who has stopped watching simulcasts and switched to simuldubs, even though they are several weeks behind.

Funi's distribution is likely better now in theory. Universal can get into more physical stores and get better deals on discounts than Funi could before, but Funi has to move enough product for Universal to continue. It's a decent risk-high reward strategy pending the titles can move, which doesn't have good signs with the decrease in unit sales.
Well, considering how positive they seemed to be about their own distribution a year ago, I just think it's an interesting sign. I guess since Funimation already has the Christian Home Video stuff, they'll never really get out of the physical media business though. But I presume this lets them free up capital for other ventures.
 
Oops, Right Stuf Tumblr jumped the gun before their panel even started~

http://rightstufanime.tumblr.com/post/123145322826/we-just-announced-a-ton-of-new-licenses-and

So at this point, Gundam Age is the only currently without an NA release past, present or future. That's quite fitting actually.

And hey Utena BDs. Haven't watched Utena yet but between this GBF and Gundam 0079, I'm excited to see how Nozomi handles them.

so it seems toei commissioned eng dubs of the first few episodes of world trigger even though no company has picked up the rights to do so lol

I can't blame anyone for not wanting to pick it up since the animated manga crunchyroll sometimes releases has more animation than world trigger did :p

That's an odd decision. Usually Toei couldn't be arsed to do anything nice for non-Japanese fans.

FUCKING BOOOOOO!

No one wants you either Harmony Gold.


Interesting. I'll be keeping my eye on this one.

Alright, so I need AnimeGaf's help with something. I'm going to get one Aniplex title, and I need to decide which one I get. My choices are Fate/Zero Set 1, Bakemonogatari, or the 8th Kara no Kyoukai movie.

Fate/Zero Set 1 I mostly want to get because I already have set II, and I'd like to complete my collection of it. Bakemonogatari is the same price, and I'd really like to have the first season of it. Kara no Kyoukai's 8th movie is more affordable than both, and it's something I enjoyed. Still, it's not a full series worth of content.

Which should I pick up?

Haven't seen any of these but if I were you I'd go with Fate/Zero set 1 so you can complete the collection.
 

duckroll

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I've heard that it's more a control issue; character songs are usually written by others and so she would want to write the lyrics and have more control over the backtrack. She's done character commentaries, commercials, and next episode previews in-character (all for the -monogatari series), so I think it's more music related for that in the Japanese market.

Internationally, she'd (or her agency would) like to have more control over the translation of her stuff, so that's probably why they're not willing to do rights as easily. Shows are a bit easier to do since that's worked out beforehand.

Yeah that makes sense. Sometimes it does feel like a bit of a waste though. Wish her character in Star Driver got an insert song. It'll always be weird to me if Maaya Sakamoto plays a key character in a show where everyone sings except her. ~_~

But it's probably good that she has the power to control her own rights too. It's really easy to get taken advantage of in entertainment industries, especially for emerging artists. :p
 

Quasar

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Well, beyond the fact that I think the acting is generally bad or at least bland, I just think it's better to watch anything in their native language. I wouldn't want to see a dubbed version of Borgen, for example.

Yeah. Pretty much my stance. Hearing characters with voices that are obviously not theirs (like Japanese characters in Japan sounding all american) totally breaks the media illusion for me. Doesn't matter if its live action or animation.

I'm equally bothered by US/UK characters in anime that are voiced by non english native speakers. Or at least by those who cannot do a believable US or other accent. Surely there's westerners in Japan who would jump at the chance to do what amounts to bit parts most of the time.
 

yami4ct

Member
Yeah. Pretty much my stance. Hearing characters with voices that are obviously not theirs (like Japanese characters in Japan sounding all american) totally breaks the media illusion for me. Doesn't matter if its live action or animation.

I don't blame people who like dubs. Reading and paying attention to the animation simultaneously can be a hard skill to pick up. I'm just surprised the dub market hasn't contracted super heavily now that the western broadcast market for them is super slim. The SimulDub strategy actually might be a really smart way to pick up more casual anime fans broadcast has left behind.
 

PK Gaming

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Samurai Flamenco 19-20

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Gatchaman Crowds 7-8

Well I suspected something like this will happen. The past few episodes have mostly been buildup, so hopefully that pays off in a big way.
 

Tuck

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Gangsta - 1
This was... really dull. Was Black Lagoon's first episode this boring? No, right?

Whoever mentioned the ripped posters was right - they're plastered on every wall lol. The city felt pretty lifeless. Felt like they were just running down the same few alleyways shot from different angles. And the flip, oh man.

Meh. Don't think I'll continue this one.
 

yami4ct

Member
That just reminded me Gatchaman Crowds S2 is coming. I have really high hopes they can pay off from all the build up in season 1 in a big way. It could end up being really fantastic.
 

Quasar

Member
I don't blame people who like dubs. Reading and paying attention to the animation simultaneously can be a hard skill to pick up. I'm just surprised the dub market hasn't contracted super heavily now that the western broadcast market for them is super slim. The SimulDub strategy actually might be a really smart way to pick up more casual anime fans broadcast has left behind.

Its hard for me to judge growing up in a culture where subbed material is normal for the most part.

In a way I'm not surprised by the survival of dubs though given the perception of the US as a country that isn't into subbed material more generally.
 

yami4ct

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Its hard for me to judge growing up in a culture where subbed material is normal for the most part.

I can totally see that. I think a lot of dub fans here in the US come from the big anime boom in the 90s-early 00s. There was a ton of anime on broadcast television at that time. Dubs became just a normal part of watching for a lot of people.
 
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