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[Angry Grimace]

That's still not enough to cover the entire arc without skipping so I wonder what they will do.

Rush the entire second half. Skipping this arc makes it pretty clear that's where they're going. There's no reason not to adapt this part unless they plan to try and get all the way to the end, which they can only do by rushing all of the remaining material.

 

[zulux21]

That's still not enough to cover the entire arc without skipping so I wonder what they will do.

end it at a random spot with a season 2 in spring 2016 announcement

 

[AquaWateria]

end it at a random spot with a season 2 in spring 2016 announcement

Will Soma get a second season though?

 

[Articalys]

AX has kinda shown the companies are hitting another bubble with streaming as titles aren't moving much, if any better, at physical stores. Sigh. I'm glad I went JP only now.

Have to apologize since I'm trying to figure out what you mean by this sentence but I'm just not getting it. You're saying that streaming has started to reach the limits of its profitability?

 

[Angry Grimace]

end it at a random spot with a season 2 in spring 2016 announcement

If they were doing that, why skip the entire Summer arc?

 

[TUSR]

LWA2

OH YES

 

[Crash Station]

Game of Laplace 1

So is this like an adaptation of something from the 40s, or is it just inspired by Ranpo's works?

It's alright.

 

[ultimatemegax]

Have to apologize since I'm trying to figure out what you mean by this sentence but I'm just not getting it. You're saying that streaming has started to reach the limits of its profitability?

Basically the increase in funds is coming from streaming and not physical releases as much. Titles haven't moved as much as previously or have slowed down, yet companies are licensing more and getting more revenue from streaming on sites like Hulu and Crunchy in addition to Funi focusing heavily on their own site.

Instead of learning their lessons from previous company failures where they licensed everything under the sun ASAP, we see them licensing earlier and earlier in competitions for streaming, which may not recoup their funds. This is looking like another bubble.

 

[cajunator]

Don't forget Bandai Entertainment! Manga is still alive in UK though. Lol.

Geneon was a real trendsetter back in the day. Not only were they on production committees for a number of shows, I heard they overpaid out of the ass for some licenses too. It was the golden age of American money flowing into the Japanese anime industry, and in the end everyone got burned. RIP Gonzo!

I remember reading that companies spent stupid money on licenses like 600k for Pumpkin Scissors lol

 

[javac]

Don't forget Bandai Entertainment! Manga is still alive in UK though. Lol.

Geneon was a real trendsetter back in the day. Not only were they on production committees for a number of shows, I heard they overpaid out of the ass for some licenses too. It was the golden age of American money flowing into the Japanese anime industry, and in the end everyone got burned. RIP Gonzo!

Even Manga in the UK are a shadow of their former selves, basically watered down to the One Piece/Naruto company so much so they they've even got a spinoff now called Animatsu that as time goes on will deal with more of their titles. Fans don't seem to be happy with Manga either, with their releases coming with a load or problems, dropping BD and going DVD only for series mid way doesn't help either. Starz actually sold off Manga Entertainment not too long ago. Manga are still the big dog in the UK due to the titles that they own which are the big sellers (FMA, Death Note, AoT, DBZ, OP etc) while MVM just deal with the more otaku based titles like FLCL, Bakemonogatari and its counterparts, Log Horizon, From the New World etc. Not the biggest sellers but popular enough. Anime Limited on the other hand seem interested in classics/modern classics like Bebop, Gundam, Lagann while picking up the newer titles too like Space Dandy, KLK and SAO. They seem to be doing well for themselves.

Its fair to say that their isn't much competition in the UK, with Manga the equivalent of Funimation, if they just focused on the high sellers with Anime Limited getting the rest. Animatsu is the UK equivalent of Sentai and MVM pick up all of the leftovers. Just doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm in the UK with everybody just regurgitating what they do across the pond. Anime Limited acquisition wise have been a little more interesting but their track record leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[Crocodile]

Yep, FUNi just announced "Dimension W", a new show they will be co-producing.

The art looks good. Is this a property I should care about?

They should have done that with My Hero Academia instead.

Way too soon, there just isn't enough manga material.

Companies learned during the bubble not to overpay for licenses in a mad rush for sight unseen in a "gotta get them all" pattern and we're in a better place now.

Oh wait, companies are starting to acquire titles for Fall now and announce them w/simlucast rights, Sentai paid for the most expensive title known around, and Funi's back on committees. LESSONS LEARNED!

AX has kinda shown the companies are hitting another bubble with streaming as titles aren't moving much, if any better, at physical stores. Sigh. I'm glad I went JP only now.

Well I mean why wouldn't they announce Fall acquisitions now and get simlucast rights with them? These deals often take months so of course they would be happening now and Anime Expo is the biggest anime convention of the year so if you've got shit to announce, you usually do it now! I also don't see how being in production committees is inherently a bad thing - if they get in on the ground floor of an actually profitable show, it saves them a lot of money in the long run.

I would think the issue is that American Companies should probably avoid going after or getting involved with shows with low Western appeal/stream/sales potential unless they can get them for very, very cheap. That's the crux of the issue no? Though "what will or won't be a hit overseas" is kind of subjective and can be trickier to discern that one would expect I'd assume.

If anything, Funimation should really be taken to task because it is the year 2015 and it seems the Western anime fandom will have to turn to REDACTED to view the airing of a BRAND NEW DRAGONBALL SERIES!!!!!!!

Spoiler

To be fair, I'm sure Toei shares some/most of the blame. Fuck them too!

 

[wonzo]

fwi lwa2 upload is missing the last 20~ mins. lmao

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I am struggling in the decision on whether FMA original is worth buying whenever it happens.

I mean I liked it, but I feel that FMA is like in every streaming service... at least brotherhood is. And if I had to make people watch one or the other, I'd likely go with Brotherhood.

 

[firehawk12]

I can't believe Trigger screwed up the LWA2 vimeo stuff. lol

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

fwi lwa2 upload is missing the last 20~ mins. lmao

Even when it's out you can't have it!

 

[zulux21]

If they were doing that, why skip the entire Summer arc?

because it wasn't a very good arc and I forgot about it until I reread the manga

as someone else said though it could easily be covered via OVA as it's not important at all right now you just replace

Spoiler

the 9th fighting for him to be in the elections to someone else or leave it as the 9th seat just don't mention the main reason why he cares.

anyways the summer arc would have taken 3-4 episodes which is about how many more episodes you would need to stay at the current pace and end right before

Spoiler

the final 8 tournament. thus it's likely they are skipping it to end it at the final 8 spot which makes sense because the final 8 through the final could easily take a whole season on their own.

 

[Narag]

fwi lwa2 upload is missing the last 20~ mins. lmao

TUSR fucked up again!

 

[firehawk12]

Companies learned during the bubble not to overpay for licenses in a mad rush for sight unseen in a "gotta get them all" pattern and we're in a better place now.

Oh wait, companies are starting to acquire titles for Fall now and announce them w/simlucast rights, Sentai paid for the most expensive title known around, and Funi's back on committees. LESSONS LEARNED!

AX has kinda shown the companies are hitting another bubble with streaming as titles aren't moving much, if any better, at physical stores. Sigh. I'm glad I went JP only now.

It's an arms race between the two big companies, with Sentai somehow existing as a shell company to launder money via weebs. lol

For me the biggest casualty in all of this is the death of licensed Japanese special features. There's literally no reason to get them anymore.

 

[fertygo]

end it at a random spot with a season 2 in spring 2016 announcement

the animu is bombing yo, maybe they aim for original ending

 

[Angry Grimace]

because it wasn't a very good arc and I forgot about it until I reread the manga

as someone else said though it could easily be covered via OVA as it's not important at all right now you just replace

Spoiler

the 9th fighting for him to be in the elections to someone else or leave it as the 9th seat just don't mention the main reason why he cares.

anyways the summer arc would have taken 3-4 episodes which is about how many more episodes you would need to stay at the current pace and end right before

Spoiler

the final 8 tournament. thus it's likely they are skipping it to end it at the final 8 spot which makes sense because the final 8 through the final could easily take a whole season on their own.

You could easily do it in one. Its only 4 manga chapters. You still have to explain where everyone goes for a month and a half.

I'm a lot more concerned they're going to

Spoiler

attempt to reach the end of the entire tournament. Ending on the Top 8 or Alice's battle seems fine to me...

 

[Save 'N Quit]

NAKIRI GENES ARE THE BEST GENES

I also like how they made Erina cosplay Blanka since that parallels with how Tsukuda (Author of Shokugeki no Soma) and Ono use those characters on their twitter profile picture.

 

[wonzo]

TUSR fucked up again!

the dave lang of anime only with weed instead of alcohol

 

[Crocodile]

Basically the increase in funds is coming from streaming and not physical releases as much. Titles haven't moved as much as previously or have slowed down, yet companies are licensing more and getting more revenue from streaming on sites like Hulu and Crunchy in addition to Funi focusing heavily on their own site.

Instead of learning their lessons from previous company failures where they licensed everything under the sun ASAP, we see them licensing earlier and earlier in competitions for streaming, which may not recoup their funds. This is looking like another bubble.

Oh you're saying they should wait until after shows have shown to be appealing to the West (after they have aired) and then snatch them up rather than acquiring them beforehand. That makes sense. Then again, if they do that, REDACTED will start to rise again and I certainly feel they want to avoid doing that. Plus they would lose riding the wave of hype of currently airing shows and I'd assume trying to acquire a show after it has shown to be a hit with the Western sub-watching anime community would be harder than acquiring it before hand and having it blow up (even if both you and the license holder already felt safe you had a good thing on your hands).

 

[javac]

This video cannot be downloaded any more right now. Please try again later.

Ok.

 

[ultimatemegax]

Well I mean why wouldn't they announce Fall acquisitions now and get simlucast rights with them? These deals often take months so of course they would be happening now and Anime Expo is the biggest anime convention of the year so if you've got shit to announce, you usually do it now! I also don't see how being in production committees is inherently a bad thing - if they get in on the ground floor of an actually profitable show, it saves them a lot of money in the long run.

I would think the issue is that American Companies should probably avoid going after or getting involved with shows with low Western appeal/stream/sales potential unless they can get them for very, very cheap. That's the crux of the issue no? Though "what will or won't be a hit overseas" is kind of subjective and can be trickier to discern that one would expect I'd assume.

If anything, Funimation should really be taken to task because it is the year 2015 and it seems the Western anime fandom will have to turn to REDACTED to view the airing of a BRAND NEW DRAGONBALL SERIES!!!!!!!

Spoiler

To be fair, I'm sure Toei shares some/most of the blame. Fuck them too!

Basically them announcing fall series now means they're focusing on a rush to get series instead of being intelligent and seeing if it fits the market for what they're willing to pay for it. Funi has been grabbing tons of titles for their streaming service rather than seeing what their customers would buy (and not converting enough from Crunchy/other services).

When you're on a production committee, you're paying more than usual for just international rights. If this isn't going to be a huge seller, you're out a lot of money. This strategy has helped to kill 4 companies thus far, so seeing someone do it again isn't a good sign they're being intelligent with their funds.

You say "oh they should wait", but everyone's rushing to grab any title they can for the streaming funds now. That's another sign prices are going up as people are rushing to get whatever they can similar to an arms race. Even Sentai paid a lot of money to get Legion of the Galactic Heroes and it's not sure whether or not they'll break even on it. This happened back in the late 2000s and bad things happened. History can repeat very easily for a niche market like anime, especially when people only buy cheap sets now unless you're Aniplex/Pony and refuse to lower prices.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

NAKIRI GENES ARE THE BEST GENES

preach brother

the dave lang of anime only with dota instead of alcohol

fixed

And I thought we already confirmed TUSR is actually Brad?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

So has there been a food porn show in anime that didn't seek to keep attention from otaku by having ecchi?

Ben-to was the other one I can think of. And I'm not even gonna mention the one about the two girls that aired like a season or 2 ago where they made orgasm faces.

 

[firehawk12]

Oh you're saying they should wait until after shows have shown to be appealing to the West (after they have aired) and then snatch them up rather than acquiring them beforehand. That makes sense. Then again, if they do that, REDACTED will start to rise again and I certainly feel they want to avoid doing that. Plus they would lose riding the wave of hype of currently airing shows and I'd assume trying to acquire a show after it has shown to be a hit with the Western sub-watching anime community would be harder than acquiring it before hand and having it blow up (even if both you and the license holder already felt safe you had a good thing on your hands).

The problem is that disc sales are dying and the streaming subscription model thing is the only thing that works at the moment and the two companies are competing with each other to get exclusive shows.

Before Funimation did simuldubs, the Crunchyroll guys straight up said they licensed everything because a) the licenses were cheap and b) the subbers were college students looking for part time work, so the model made sense. They grabbed shows no one would watch because the cost to them was negligible.

The fact that the price is being driven up but the number of people watching has presumably peaked is why Funi started doing "Simudubs" and CR gave up and rolled their Manga, Drama, and Anime subs into one membership.

 

[Puruzi]

So has there been a food porn show in anime that didn't seek to keep attention from otaku by having ecchi?

Ben-to was the other one I can think of. And I'm not even gonna mention the one about the two girls that aired like a season or 2 ago where they made orgasm faces.

Soma has ecchi because the manga's artist does hentai.

 

[AquaWateria]

So has there been a food porn show in anime that didn't seek to keep attention from otaku by having ecchi?

Ben-to was the other one I can think of. And I'm not even gonna mention the one about the two girls that aired like a season or 2 ago where they made orgasm faces.

Yakitate!! Japan

 

[zulux21]

the animu is bombing yo, maybe they aim for original ending

I haven't seen any info about how it is doing, it seems to be doing well due to the manga ads for it though (every chapter starts with how well received and how well watched the anime is )

I have to imagine it is at least doing better than Baby Steps and that got a second season.

You could easily do it in one. Its only 4 manga chapters. You still have to explain where everyone goes for a month and a half.

I'm a lot more concerned they're going to

Spoiler

attempt to reach the end of the entire tournament. Ending on the Top 8 or Alice's battle seems fine to me...

well you can reduce the whole thing to about a minute if you want.

Spoiler

just jump ahead to him coming back from summer break and just casually talk about how he took down a store and made a new enemy.

beyond that it's not beyond the realm of possibility for them to change up the order of things a bit

Spoiler

and have the announcement of the election stuff first and then have summer break to train and get better.

 

[firehawk12]

So has there been a food porn show in anime that didn't seek to keep attention from otaku by having ecchi?

Ben-to was the other one I can think of. And I'm not even gonna mention the one about the two girls that aired like a season or 2 ago where they made orgasm faces.

Antique Bakery and Ristorante Paradiso, I suppose. But they're aiming for the female audience.

You say "oh they should wait", but everyone's rushing to grab any title they can for the streaming funds now. That's another sign prices are going up as people are rushing to get whatever they can similar to an arms race. Even Sentai paid a lot of money to get Legion of the Galactic Heroes and it's not sure whether or not they'll break even on it. This happened back in the late 2000s and bad things happened. History can repeat very easily for a niche market like anime, especially when people only buy cheap sets now unless you're Aniplex/Pony and refuse to lower prices.

Sentai is weird because, at least based on people here anyway, I think less people use The Anime Network than they do Daisuki.

We already had Viz's anime "streaming" site die though. So perhaps the bubble has already popped and we're just at the downward spiral.

 

[Soma]

Soma has ecchi because the manga's artist did hentai.

fixed

;_;

 

[AquaWateria]

I haven't seen any info about how it is doing, it seems to be doing well due to the manga ads for it though


well you can reduce the whole thing to about a minute if you want.

Spoiler

just jump ahead to him coming back from summer break and just casually talk about how he took down a store and made a new enemy.

beyond that it's not beyond the realm of possibility for them to change up the order of things a bit

Spoiler

and have the announcement of the election stuff first and then have summer break to train and get better.

If you looked on Amazon it's been doing pretty badly. It's also predicted to sell terribly. Though the manga got a boost so that may help a bit.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

fixed

;_;

Soma
Member
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[yami4ct]

Soma has ecchi because the manga's artist does hentai.

Wait, really? Everything about Soma and its character designs makes so much more sense. I really started digging the manga and the echi went from off-putting to charmingly hilarious at some point. Haven't bothered checking out the anime yet.

 

[Puruzi]

fixed

;_;

A terrible loss. Dude's stuff was awesome.

Wait, really? Everything about Soma and its character designs makes so much more sense. I really started digging the manga and the echi went from off-putting to charmingly hilarious at some point. Haven't bothered checking out the anime yet.

Yes, he actually did hentai.

 

[duckroll]

Little Witch Academia - The Enchanted Parade

Incomplete and unfinished. Terrible troll for backers. Trigger sucks. Etc.

T_T

 

[firehawk12]

Little Witch Academia - The Enchanted Parade

Incomplete and unfinished. Terrible troll for backers. Trigger sucks. Etc.

T_T

Give ending~

 

[zulux21]

If you looked on Amazon it's been doing pretty badly. It's also predicted to sell terribly. Though the manga got a boost so that may help a bit.

worst case the manga isn't going anywhere, but I still expect them to do another season just because the manga is decently popular and with naruto gone and bleach ending sometime they need more shows to continue filling in stuff.

how did assassination classroom do as that one already has a second season confirmed.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Waited for Trigger to supposedly save anime

but it never happened

 

[duckroll]

Trigger pls.... T_T

 

[ultimatemegax]

Sentai is weird because, at least based on people here anyway, I think less people use The Anime Network than they do Daisuki.

We already had Viz's anime "streaming" site die though. So perhaps the bubble has already popped and we're just at the downward spiral.

I'm pretty sure less people use Anime Network than Daisuki. Sentai had to put everything on Hulu to make some money.

I rather liked Neon Alley and was sad to see it go. The concept was good, but a hard sell to people. It actually inspired me to get Fate/Zero after hearing the dub one random night. Its failure didn't bode well for dubs being a big motivating factor for streaming though. It's just too easier (and cheaper) to get subtitled versions now.

Streaming could be in the downward spiral phase, especially as companies grab different titles. It's different than Japan where we're starting to see multiple companies with the same titles (example: Euphonium was on NicoNico (both live broadcasts and its own channel for later viewing), dAnimeStore, U-Next, Bandai Channel, and AnimePass). Internationally, you have Crunchy OR Funi/Viewster OR Hulu OR Daisuki. Only Aniplex titles go on multiple sites now.

 

[wonzo]

Little Witch Academia - The Enchanted Parade

Incomplete and unfinished. Terrible troll for backers. Trigger sucks. Etc.

T_T

shenmue KS dogging karma

 

[Narag]

Another failed kickstarter I wisely avoided. rip

 

[yami4ct]

Waited for Trigger to supposedly save anime
[IM]http://i.imgur.com/YP6IW6K.jpg[/IMG]
but it never happened

I thought that hope died once people watched KLK.

 

[InsaneZero]

Well, LWA2 was great. Hope the technical issues get worked out since people should be watching this.

 

[duckroll]

Well, LWA2 was great. Hope the technical issues get worked out since people should be watching this.

How long was it?

 

[OceanBlue]

Well, LWA2 was great. Hope the technical issues get worked out since people should be watching this.

It was amazing! So glad I went to see our at AX.

 

[Giolon]

Damn, the LWA2 upload for backers cuts off right in the middle of the climax.

What I did get to see was pretty great though.