Is it jumping the shark if you never come down?
I like the look of the show, will definitely make it stand out. But looks like animation itself won't be top notch if this episode is anything to go by, visuals might just be carried by its unique art direction.Then comes the plot and episode 1 isn't an info dump, it isn't much of an introduction either, it's almost like a 40 minute pilot that somebody cut out all of the dialogue sections that give more background and just gave us the battles in it. The opening in Japan seems to have little reason to it right now besides somebody from the higher ups saying "please make it start in Japan because we're a Japanese company first and foremost, even if all three leads and the enemies are in the USA".
The Reflection 1
This is one of those first episodes that while enjoyable doesn't really tell you much about the type of show you're gonna be watching. We're only somewhat introduced to the main cast, and most of the episode is spent giving the show a sense of time and place.
I guess,that depends on how you define "jump".Is it jumping the shark if you never come down?
Is it jumping the shark if you never come down?
More like launch past the shark and fly straight through the atmosphere to crash into Jupiter.
By the way, does Code Geass ever jump the shark and turn into a smoldering mess, or is it okay to watch all the episodes available on CR?
BokuHero 29
Somewhere deep down inside my American heart, I love Stain. The same way I "love" Spawn. He's an antihero - won't side with the villains but definitely won't side with the heroes and would rather adhere to his own twisted and warped ideals.
Breh if you got to episode 22 and are asking when it jumps the shark you will be fine it jumped the shark ages ago
My question was basically due to how I enjoyed the duality Lelouch had within himself, but now that things have escalated to such a crazy point, I expect such a trend to continue, which is kind of futile because he's now 100% Zero, making moral dilemmas meaningless as he now treats absolutely everyone except for his little sister as nothing but disposable pawns, and there's no nuance in such a character to keep carrying the series' momentum forward unless the show's formula changes considerably once again.
My question was basically due to how I enjoyed the duality Lelouch had within himself, but now that things have escalated to such a crazy point, I expect such a trend to continue, which is kind of futile because he's now 100% Zero, making moral dilemmas meaningless as he now treats absolutely everyone except for his little sister as nothing but disposable pawns, and there's no nuance in such a character to keep carrying the series' momentum forward unless the show's formula changes considerably once again.
Why do some characters love licking their weapons?
I see this shit everywhere lmao.
Why do some characters love licking their weapons?
I see this shit everywhere lmao.
Just uh, make sure you tank through the fourth episode about the idols. Its terrible but its the only terrible episode.
BokuHero 29
Somewhere deep down inside my American heart, I love Stain. The same way I "love" Spawn. He's an antihero - won't side with the villains but definitely won't side with the heroes and would rather adhere to his own twisted and warped ideals.
Honestly the people who say that Geass jumped the shark after Suzaku outran a machine gun turret are hilarious to me. Geass was always high octane pure entertainment.
I actually giggled a bit.
Sure, watch season 2.
[Made in Abyss] - 3
I understand all the complaints people have levied against the plot moving too slowly. I don't think that's actually the biggest problem here. On the contrary, I feel like the series needs to do a good job setting up the world and characters that our protagonists will be leaving behind with essentially no hope of ever returning. It needs to feel like this is a big commitment the characters are making and so rushing into it wouldn't feel right.
"Episode didn't tell us anything new"[Made in Abyss] - 3
My one big issue since the start was how Lelouch The Chessmaster would fail to notice that the prototype white robot showing up to screw his plans up had become a recurring trend after the 20th time it happened in a row, even though I did like the plot developments introduced by those mistakes, so it wasn't all bad in my book.
...it's basically the Doomed Hometown trope being invoked in a figurative sense to remove all nuances and contradictions Lelouch had as a character, finally turning him into a cardboard cut-out of a card-carrying extremist
I talked about the change being legit good for the show and its cast, and not the List-worthy kind of "good".
"Episode didn't tell us anything new"
"Proceeds to show screenshots of some shady remarks that feel like foreshadowing"
Something doesn't quite add up, but I can't quite put my finger on it. 🤔🤔🤔
Not to mention that we got an introduction to all the layers of the abyss.
I feel like its disingenious to handwave away everything we learn about the world and reduce this episode to 'we learned nothing new [about the characters]', especially since the world in this show very much is a main character.
And in any case, it was necessary development that needed to happen, and at least I found their good-bye pretty sad.
The Reflection Episode 1
My favorite part of living in America is all the flags everywhere
I mean, yeah, basically. There are so many flags here.
No, I did not purposely re-arrange the screenshots. The scene actually went like this.
Reminds me of the one chick from Upotte who fingered herself to completion at the thought of torturing the other girls.
Gundam SEED Destiny - 5
Sheesh, a Colony Drop attempt in the fifth episode?
For a show that apparently wants to be Zeta, it sure is rushing things.
Reminds me of the one chick from Upotte who fingered herself to completion at the thought of torturing the other girls.
why are you doing this to yourself?
Fate Apocrypha 1-3
Fate Zero this is not. I also see it continues the tried and true Fate tradition of turning historical and literary figures into young cute waifus for the otaku to fawn over in order to keep the well-oiled money printing machine up and running in tip top shape.
I feel like the meat of the series is going to be adventure, which is why I feel lingering on the town is a mistake especially since, as you allude to later, they don't really introduce anything new. Most relevant information about their life above the Abyss was established in 1 and 2, and 3 could've been fit into 1 and 2 as well. They made it clear they're not going to be returning to the town any time soon, if ever. So it's a bit like Harry Potter spending the first quarter of the book talking about how shitty his life is with the Dursleys, and then never mentioning them ever again because Hogwarts is a permanent board school and he has no reason to go back.
Contrast this with, say, KonoSuba or even DanMachi where the main characters have a "home base" outside of the quest area, which needs to be populated since they're going back over and over again.
I mentioned all the developments of note this episode and on their own they aren't enough to sustain 24 minutes of television. All the lore stuff was fairly short and could have even been compressed into a couple of minutes at the start of the episode."Episode didn't tell us anything new"
"Proceeds to show screenshots of some shady remarks that feel like foreshadowing"
Something doesn't quite add up, but I can't quite put my finger on it. 🤔🤔🤔
Not to mention that we got an introduction to all the layers of the abyss.
I feel like its disingenious to handwave away everything we learn about the world and reduce this episode to 'we learned nothing new [about the characters]', especially since the world in this show very much is a main character.
And in any case, it was necessary development that needed to happen, and at least I found their good-bye pretty sad.
Compulsive gambling does things to people.
Yes, I agree with this stance, but only with the luxury of time. Given the restraints of broadcast anime I feel it's a mismatch. I'd accept 6 episodes worth of "dicking around" in the home town before adventure time in a manga, for example, or in a book. Promised Neverland is doing just this. But Made in Abyss is, what, 12, 13? And this isn't the kind of show to get more than 2 seasons. I'd like to see as much of the Abyss as possible in that time.- When a hero goes out on an adventure into a fundamentally different world than their own I believe it's important to an establish a baseline for comparison between the normal and the abrnormal. This is true in basically every story where a character leaves their hometown to see the wider world, but that it's even more important in a fantasy series. The more concretely this baseline is established, the sharper the contrast between the familiar and the foreign, the greater the sense of adventure when our heroes transition into this new space.
If the story rushes through this initial introductory phase because it feels like it just wants to get the 'meat' of the adventure, you lose the sharpness of that contrast, and you also lose that weight of a character leaving their home to travel on a journey.