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[hikarutilmitt]

I have an aluminum battop, so it actually loosens it a bit. Nearly to JLF levels, but still not quite as loose. I've been thinking of adding a spring or changing it to a stiffer one to compensate but it's not a bad feeling at all.

I'm really, really considering a Hayabusa, though. Everyone keeps saying it's like a Seimitsu in feel and that just makes me giddy.

 

[Reverend]

You sound really elitist when you say that.

I'm not so sure you understand how arcade sticks work. All you need to do to get your stick working on a new console is acquire licensing and in the case of Microsoft acquire authentication chips. It's not like they need to start redesigning sticks from the ground up in order to work on a next gen console. Unless their potential user base is so phenomenally low that the licensing fee would outweigh their profit, you can bet that they will make sticks for the next gen consoles.

First of all- you asked. I prefer a square gate because it's easier to hit diagonals. Other than holding diagonals, the style of gate doesn't particularly matter to me because I'm rarely hitting the gate. I don't know why that comes off as elitist, but I'm sorry that it did because it wasn't my intention.

Second of all, I'm not sure you understand how production works. It may not be a technically daunting thing (hell, I think in PS4's case it's a standard DirectInput device thing), but they still would have to spend money to produce, label, ship, and promote these products, and I don't see them doing so until some games that actually use the products for these games become available.

Let me just reiterate (for the third time) that there will definitely be arcade sticks for PS4. They'll swing by right around the same time as the first big PS4-centric fight game comes out.

 

[BOTEC]

I have an aluminum battop, so it actually loosens it a bit. Nearly to JLF levels, but still not quite as loose. I've been thinking of adding a spring or changing it to a stiffer one to compensate but it's not a bad feeling at all.

I'm really, really considering a Hayabusa, though. Everyone keeps saying it's like a Seimitsu in feel and that just makes me giddy.

Really? Every time I read about the Hyabusa all the platitudes sound like code for "like Sanwa, please buy me." Now I know that Hori goes to great lengths to make their products hybrids, somewhere between the looseness of a Sanwa and the stiffness of a Seimitsu, but I wouldn't be surprised if the glitz and monies of the Street Fighter arcade market lured them in. If you get your hands on one, chime in with your impressions, I'd like to hear them.

 

[GeorgeC]

... what did I just read?

A friend just came back after having lived in Fukushima for the last two years. We hugged. I'm pretty sure neither of us are dying.

... Go ahead and believe everything the government and big media tell you.

KEEP YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND LIKE A GOOD OSTRICH.

It's not like they've ever lied to us, right?
It's not like NBC News, which is owned by General Electric, ever tailors reports on nuclear power plant safety issues... it's not like GE actually builds nuclear power plants for the Navy isn't lobbying the US federal government to build new nuclear power plants, right?

Nobody ever died from exposure to radioactive fallout poisoning from the nuclear weapons tests conducted in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s in the Southwest US.

Of course, Chernobyl was just a little burp and it's perfectly safe to live within the radiation zones and eat off the land there.

The fact of the matter is many more people got poisoned by Fukushima than what we were told... they underestimated the spread of the radiation and the people who were not immediately evacuated to more than 25 miles from the plant got high doses. They may not be losing hair now but they are at much higher risk for developing any number of cancers down the road. Leukemia and bone cancer get particularly elevated by high exposure to radioactive fallout.

The most immediate problem the Fukushima radiation poses to everybody in the Pacific is what it's doing to the wildlife. Radioactive material accumulates in body tissues... You'll get a nice dose of it if you eat anything from shellfish to tuna! Biologists have already noticed massive die-offs of starfish in the Pacific... The starfish are literally disintegrating and this is only a recent phenomenon. Gee, I wonder what THAT'S connected to?!?!??

Your comment about hugging your friend demonstrates you are clueless... You WON'T catch hard radiation from just hugging someone but that person has been dosed by the radioactive material released from the Fukushima nuclear plant. I would hope they'll still be healthy many years down the road and won't develop an abnormal cancer but the statistics are not in their favor. We have plenty of people who have gotten sick who lived in cities and towns near nuclear weapons plants in the US. Gee, I guess the elevated radiation in the water and radioactive metals in the soil are normal!

 

[GeorgeC]

That explains it! GergeC's ramblings are clearly due to the neural degradation caused by poisoned fish. Whew, glad to have finally gotten to the bottom of this.

(The PS4 just launched in Japan, the XBone doesn't even have a date. Hori would probably like to wait at least until a single fighting game is released in their territory before releasing a new stick.)

Keep dreaming and wanking to joysticks.
Keep eating toxic food.


Freaking idiot...!

 

[hikarutilmitt]

... Go ahead and believe everything the government and big media tell you.

KEEP YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND LIKE A GOOD OSTRICH.

It's not like they've ever lied to us, right?
It's not like NBC News, which is owned by General Electric, ever tailors reports on nuclear power plant safety issues... it's not like GE actually builds nuclear power plants for the Navy isn't lobbying the US federal government to build new nuclear power plants, right?

Nobody ever died from exposure to radioactive fallout poisoning from the nuclear weapons tests conducted in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s in the Southwest US.

Of course, Chernobyl was just a little burp and it's perfectly safe to live within the radiation zones and eat off the land there.

The fact of the matter is many more people got poisoned by Fukushima than what we were told... they underestimated the spread of the radiation and the people who were not immediately evacuated to more than 25 miles from the plant got high doses. They may not be losing hair now but they are at much higher risk for developing any number of cancers down the road. Leukemia and bone cancer get particularly elevated by high exposure to radioactive fallout.

The most immediate problem the Fukushima radiation poses to everybody in the Pacific is what it's doing to the wildlife. Radioactive material accumulates in body tissues... You'll get a nice dose of it if you eat anything from shellfish to tuna! Biologists have already noticed massive die-offs of starfish in the Pacific... The starfish are literally disintegrating and this is only a recent phenomenon. Gee, I wonder what THAT'S connected to?!?!??

Your comment about hugging your friend demonstrates you are clueless... You WON'T catch hard radiation from just hugging someone but that person has been dosed by the radioactive material released from the Fukushima nuclear plant. I would hope they'll still be healthy many years down the road and won't develop an abnormal cancer but the statistics are not in their favor. We have plenty of people who have gotten sick who lived in cities and towns near nuclear weapons plants in the US. Gee, I guess the elevated radiation in the water and radioactive metals in the soil are normal!

Keep dreaming and wanking to joysticks.
Keep eating toxic food.


Freaking idiot...!

Please, just stop. If you want to rant about Fukushima and the lack of true information find a thread on OT about it, not this one. This isn't for calling each other idiots or trying to "enlighten" us to things we already know, it's about arcade stick discussion. Enjoy your stay, however short it may end up being if you keep this up.

EDIT: aaaand banned while typing my post.

 

[BOTEC]

Ha ha ha, what the fuck? It's Saturday morning and I'm checking GAF while having my bagel and coffee and I come upon... this. Thanks George, my weekend is off to a great start!

 

[hikarutilmitt]

By the way, this SRK tech talk thread that was linked earlier is where I got the impression that the Hayabusa is closer to a Seimitsu than a Sanwa. He did go through a lot of modding steps in the post itself, but says the stick feels close to an LS40 (my favorite lever) in the throw, engage and general feel. It even looks to use Matsushita switches, though not of the levered variety.

Which actually reminds me, I've been wanting to drop a stiffer spring into my LS40 since I have the aluminum battop loosening the stock spring some.

 

[hibachifinal]

I just won an auction for a Hori T5 10th Anniversary Stick for total price of $25

man this stick, i don't need it at all. but its so cheap, so easy to convert to "real HRAP status". I think i've gone through 5 of them already.

 

[BOTEC]

Speaking of wanking to joysticks, I'm getting that funny feeling again. I think it's time to pick up a new arcade stick. I was checking out the N3-SA, but decided it wouldn't get much use on the PS3, since most of the shooters I play are on 360. I was then super bummed out that there isn't a NX variant for 360. What's even worse is that the controller board in my VX-SE Kai identifies itself as "RAP.NX" to Windows. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Maybe I should grab the VX-SE Kai from arcadeshock, since it seems like they still have stock. I'm not too thrilled about the whole "Kai" part though. Any other unique sticks out there that I'm missing? I'm looking for a plain workhorse stick, not something pretty to put on a shelf or keep in a box. Preferably something without licensed stickers all over it.

 

[hibachifinal]

Maybe I should grab the VX-SE Kai from arcadeshock, since it seems like they still have stock. I'm not too thrilled about the whole "Kai" part though. Any other unique sticks out there that I'm missing? I'm looking for a plain workhorse stick, not something pretty to put on a shelf or keep in a box. Preferably something without licensed stickers all over it.

do you like smaller compact sticks? if you're looking for a decent 360 stick, there's the Qanba Q1-CUT for 360. Seimitsu parts are compatible with it. It's pretty, but also cheap enough that you're not gonna feel bad if you dont baby it.

how about the sako special :v

plinking errday

 

[SUPARSTARX]

Start button is too close

 

[BOTEC]

do you like smaller compact sticks? if you're looking for a decent 360 stick, there's the Qanba Q1-CUT for 360. Seimitsu parts are compatible with it. It's pretty, but also cheap enough that you're not gonna feel bad if you dont baby it.

how about the sako special :v

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/771/771999/hori_02_cs1w1_1240x689.jpg[img]

plinking errday[/QUOTE]

Hmm, interesting suggestion. I'll check it out. Being cheap is definitely a plus, as this will be my fourth 360 stick. In the mean time I was checking out the Madcatz Fightstick PRO.

As for that RAP, did we ever get an explanation of why it looks like that?

 

[Running Wild]

I believe the gimmick with that HRAP is you can switch the Start Button to act as Select using the top panel so you can do that ridiculous Select button plinking in Street Fighter 4 without having to modify the button wiring yourself.

 

[BOTEC]

I believe the gimmick with that HRAP is you can switch the Start Button to act as Select using the top panel so you can do that ridiculous Select button plinking in Street Fighter 4 without having to modify the button wiring yourself.

Well that went cleat over my head. Ima have to google that then.

 

[noodalls]

I don't necessarily understand why, but when I put two KI sticks into my amazon.co.uk basket, the price dropped from 164 pounds each to 136 pounds each. And bought.

 

[Goddard]

Well that went cleat over my head. Ima have to google that then.

It's Daigo plinking tactics.

 

[purpletentacle]

Question:

I picked up Persona 4 Arena for the PS3 last week and am loving it. Now I'm considering getting the official Hori Persona 4 fight-stick. I recently moved over to PS3, so I figure picking one up wouldn't be a bad idea.

Does anyone know if...

A) it's any good? The Hori-branded Persona 4 one, I mean. Haven't been able to find any impressions on YouTube about it.

Also B) the only site that seems to sell it anymore (I realize I'm about 2 years too late to the party) is this one: http://www.nin-nin-game.com/lang-en...hori-official-arcade-stick-ps3-brand-new.html

Are they trust worthy? Or does anyone know where I might be able to get one elsewhere?

 

[Skilletor]

Anybody know where I might be able to find a vlx in good condition other than ebay or amazon?

I see one on amazon that I'll if I can't. 100% srs about buying one if I can find it.

Edit: Also, I'm going to be selling several Foehammer customs and dual mod plastic sticks. Any interest for that here before I post them up on SRK?

 

[MarkMan]

what the, what did i miss lol

 

[emag]

Question:

I picked up Persona 4 Arena for the PS3 last week and am loving it. Now I'm considering getting the official Hori Persona 4 fight-stick. I recently moved over to PS3, so I figure picking one up wouldn't be a bad idea.

Does anyone know if...

A) it's any good? The Hori-branded Persona 4 one, I mean. Haven't been able to find any impressions on YouTube about it.

That's a six-button Hori Real Arcade Pro V3/VX with Persona artwork. I'd imagine it functions similarly to other RAP V3 (PS4)/VX (360) sticks.

 

[Skilletor]

Woot. Found a ps3 VLX for 315 with the Hori bag.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Woot. Found a ps3 VLX for 315 with the Hori bag.

Congrats! I'd love to get one, but it's out of my price range.

 

[Skilletor]

Congrats! I'd love to get one, but it's out of my price range.

Yeah, I'm selling several sticks and trying to consolidate else I probably wouldn't have.

Sad that it's a ps3 version. Going to take a bit more work to dual mod if I choose to do that.

 

[StarCreator]

Yeah, I'm selling several sticks and trying to consolidate else I probably wouldn't have.

Sad that it's a ps3 version. Going to take a bit more work to dual mod if I choose to do that.

At this point I'd just replace with a PS360+ rather than attempt dual-modding. Maybe wait and see what board adds X1/PS4 compatibility to the mix first even.

Don't suppose one of the sticks you're selling is a Hori 360 stick with the old style headset connector next to the guide button?

 

[Skilletor]

At this point I'd just replace with a PS360+ rather than attempt dual-modding. Maybe wait and see what board adds X1/PS4 compatibility to the mix first even.

Don't suppose one of the sticks you're selling is a Hori 360 stick with the old style headset connector next to the guide button?

That's likely what I'll end up doing. I have plenty of dual modded sticks already.

Just happy to have found one for a decent price.

I don't have any Hori sticks for sale. I just sold a VS stick to a friend, I have an OG PS3 TE dual modded with a chimp, and 3 or 4 custom sticks.

Edit no Jutsu: Anybody know where I can buy a panel and plexi for the VLX? I don't see anything on SRK.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Probably the same reason they don't sell pre-made plexi for the HSS-0130. There's little to nor market for it.

 

[purpletentacle]

That's a six-button Hori Real Arcade Pro V3/VX with Persona artwork. I'd imagine it functions similarly to other RAP V3 (PS4)/VX (360) sticks.

Thanks.

No one knows anything about these Nin-Nin Games.com guys, huh?

 

[StarCreator]

Thanks.

No one knows anything about these Nin-Nin Games.com guys, huh?

I've heard they're solid for preorders, but I have no idea what they're like for things that have already been released. I've also heard not to expect any kind of communication from them if you do deal with them.

 

[Vice]

The Hayabusa stick should work on a Qanba Q4 Raf correct?

 

[The Phantomnaut]

The Hayabusa stick should work on a Qanba Q4 Raf correct?

Yeah that stick should fit just fine.

Should be getting my custom stick case from Jasen's Customs soon! It's heavily influenced by the Korean custom stick company Magiclab! Markman I know ya have one! Can't wait! Also I am hype for that Crossbone Xbox One PCB by Phreak!

 

[hibachifinal]

my quest for the Hayabusa/Kuro is pretty tedious.

Hori delayed it by a week because they needed "proof" e-mailed to them (ID/Utility Bill) which i forgot.

now UPS delayed shipment by two days due to weather.

its just lol, im excited.

 

[Disaster Nebraska]

After years of using no-name $45 arcade sticks, I finally was able to convince my wife "it is time" and I got myself a Hori R.A.P N3-SA as well as a R.A.P V3 SA Kai. Then I threw octagon gates in both.

Both are rather nice, though anything is better than the chinsy stick I was using before. Clicky joystick, responsive buttons, heavy construction: it's really quite refreshing to play on a solid piece of equipment like the arcades from my youth. It's funny, because she was the first one to try out the sticks (she love MvC3) and now she's glad we own them. If the new Guilty Gear comes with a themed stick I might pick that up later this year.

 

[woodypop]

I just got a used SEGA Virtua Stick yesterday. It's fully functional, but the joystick is kind of stiff and feels "gritty" when I move it around (probably due to age). I'm thinking about opening it up and lubricating(?) some of the interior parts to smooth out the feel. I'm not really interested in swapping out any parts if I can help it. Any tips/advice?

 

[StarCreator]

After years of using no-name $45 arcade sticks, I finally was able to convince my wife "it is time" and I got myself a Hori R.A.P N3-SA as well as a R.A.P V3 SA Kai. Then I threw octagon gates in both.

Both are rather nice, though anything is better than the chinsy stick I was using before. Clicky joystick, responsive buttons, heavy construction: it's really quite refreshing to play on a solid piece of equipment like the arcades from my youth. It's funny, because she was the first one to try out the sticks (she love MvC3) and now she's glad we own them. If the new Guilty Gear comes with a themed stick I might pick that up later this year.

At risk of reigniting the argument that never dies, may I ask what was behind the decision to immediately switch to octo gates? That's not very common, especially for people who are essentially getting their first sticks.

I just got a used SEGA Virtua Stick yesterday. It's fully functional, but the joystick is kind of stiff and feels "gritty" when I move it around (probably due to age). I'm thinking about opening it up and lubricating(?) some of the interior parts to smooth out the feel. I'm not really interested in swapping out any parts if I can help it. Any tips/advice?

If you need to lubricate, make sure you use a silicon-based lubricant. Any hardware store should be able to oblige.

 

[NyMartin]

Hey Gaf,
I just got into arcade sticks and have a problem.
I got a great deal for a Qanba Q2 Glow Arcade Stick however I was sent PS3 instead of 360 version.
Do you guys have a guide for dual mod?
I have skills in soldering.

 

[SmokeMaxX]

Hey Gaf,
I just got into arcade sticks and have a problem.
I got a great deal for a Qanba Q2 Glow Arcade Stick however I was sent PS3 instead of 360 version.
Do you guys have a guide for dual mod?
I have skills in soldering.

I'd recommend just sending it back and getting the 360 version. No need to pay more because of their mistake.

 

[NyMartin]

I'd recommend just sending it back and getting the 360 version. No need to pay more because of their mistake.

thanks I'm considering it but at the moment I want to weigh my options, any guides?

 

[ScOULaris]

I'd recommend just sending it back and getting the 360 version. No need to pay more because of their mistake.

Ditto.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Yeah why not hit up customer service?

 

[Reverend]

thanks I'm considering it but at the moment I want to weigh my options, any guides?

The problem with dual modding a Glow stick is (IIRC) that the circuitry for the glow mechanic is built into the main PCB, and you may end up losing the fancy lights if you dual mod. I'd return the stick.

 

[NyMartin]

Yeah why not hit up customer service?

got it on ebay and the seller doesn't specialize in games but was selling it as is. I got it for $70 shipped and thought it was good deal.
losing the lights is okay for me, I'd just want to get it working for both systems.
Without the lights how hard would it be?

 

[sixteen-bit]

got it on ebay and the seller doesn't specialize in games but was selling it as is. I got it for $70 shipped and thought it was good deal

File a complaint with ebay if the seller misrepresented the item.

 

[Disaster Nebraska]

At risk of reigniting the argument that never dies, may I ask what was behind the decision to immediately switch to octo gates? That's not very common, especially for people who are essentially getting their first sticks.

No preamble needed. I won't bite (can't speak for the others who might chime in).

It's really just preference. I love the clicky-chunk-chunk of a octoganal gate combined with a good joystick.

Though these are the first good sticks I've owned since the mid-90s, I grew up with the arcades and have even built some home arcade cabinets with friends, so I'm pretty familiar with the hardware. I'm a casual fighting-game player and I prefer the feel of gate-riding. Additionally, I don't play very many charge-type characters

 

[NyMartin]

File a complaint with ebay if the seller misrepresented the item.

I'd honestly not go through the hassle of shipping but the lights aren't an issue.
losing the lights is okay for me, I'd just want to get it working for both systems.
Without the lights how hard would it be?

 

[StarCreator]

I'd honestly not go through the hassle of shipping but the lights aren't an issue.
losing the lights is okay for me, I'd just want to get it working for both systems.
Without the lights how hard would it be?

If you're definitely keeping the stick, the absolute easiest route is removing all existing electronics and installing a PS360+ (which provides both 360 and PS3 output via USB, among many other options via Cat5). To attempt to retain the existing PCB you'd have to first find out if the existing board is common ground, and if so padhack a MadCatz controller PCB in dual-mod configuration.

 

[NyMartin]

If you're definitely keeping the stick, the absolute easiest route is removing all existing electronics and installing a PS360+ (which provides both 360 and PS3 output via USB, among many other options via Cat5). To attempt to retain the existing PCB you'd have to first find out if the existing board is common ground, and if so padhack a MadCatz controller PCB in dual-mod configuration.

thanks alot everyone here in Gaf, I really appreciate the fast help.
I'm looking at maybe ordering the PS360+ (looking at tutorials now), also I have several Madcatz SE 360 sticks which don't have working buttons but the boards are intact any thing I can do with those?

 

[MarkMan]

Yeah that stick should fit just fine.

Should be getting my custom stick case from Jasen's Customs soon! It's heavily influenced by the Korean custom stick company Magiclab! Markman I know ya have one! Can't wait! Also I am hype for that Crossbone Xbox One PCB by Phreak!

How did you know I have one!?

 

[The Phantomnaut]

How did you know I have one!?

I swear you posted it a while back either on SRK or the original GAF thread. You mentioned WCG and Korea.

While replying, someone got the similar stick and mentioned ya. Also this even if the photo isn't there anymore.

Since I probably won't be going to South Korea in the near future, I might as well have a stick similar to it made here.

 

[Skilletor]

Dat VLX, doe.