Well then, I guess I'll place my order for the replacement JLF first thing in the morning.
Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO
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JoeyJungle
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Is there a newbie buying guide? I just want a stick for PC to play Street Fighter 5 and maybe Guilty Gear Xrd for a while, I might put in 60 hours over a year. What are the mid-tier sticks I should consider? I've never really played fighting games before.
sixteen-bit
Member
If you're only playing on PC, the Qanba Carbon is a great choice and regularly goes on sale for $50. At $50 it really punches above its weight class.
If you want a solid mid-tier stick, the Hori RAP4 Kai is a good option that won't break the bank (it's around $150, which is a bit below the usual $200 average for sticks). If you want to go lower on the price tag, there's also the Qanba Carbon that sixteen-bit suggested.
Thank you for the link! I hadn't heard of these before.
DOA5LR doesn't have the skullgirls driver last time I checked, unless its been patched in there and I didn't know about it. That's one I'd love to play with my arcade stick but I have gotten used to just using the DS4.
The other option is check your local craiglist section and see if anybody is selling a used fightstick for cheap.
Hellshingu
Member
Anyone have any impressions of the Razer Panthera?
sixteen-bit
Member
IPW dropped a Crystal review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trAtpeaZxkU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trAtpeaZxkU
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
It's much more solid (build wise) than the Atrox on Xbox 360 and Xbox One. Reason being, the artwork is now fused to the top panel (similar to MCZ TE), thus making it structurally a more solid product as far as fitment goes.
The team also spent some extra time making sure that the cable connector is much better than previous iterations of the product.
Hellshingu
Member
Thanks for the impressions. Glad it feels more solid now. I don't really change artwork so glad they decided to fuse it to improve build quality.
I saw some videos saying there is issues with PC compatibility out of the box. Is this true? Or just affecting a small amount of people? I'll most likely use it for ps4 so I guess it doesn't apply to me that much.
Just but all of them
I'll probably end up with the new qanba and razer by the time the FE comes out. Wife is going to flip.Just but all of them
Ain't nobody got room for that! Lol
Hellshingu
Member
This is becoming my problem. I had to let my brother take some older sticks home before the wife disappeared them while I was sleeping.
The Sanwa stick that came with my Mad Catz TE2+ is starting to spazz out and not recognize down left inputs. I dunno if its just the way madcatz was storing these sticks or what, but now every single part of the stick (buttons, stick, pcb) seems to have crapped out on me at some point. I'm just gonna put my Hayabusa back in and learn to deal with that, since I'm sick of these things constantly failing on me.
Try putting in your Hayabusa. It's likely an issue with the microswitches.
Yeah, the Hayabusa is fine.
Then yeah, your JLF is the problem. You can get a replacement for $30 (including shipping) on FocusAttack.
Uh, I've been saying from the begining it was the JLF. I think you misread my original post.
But yeah, I'm just gonna stick to Hori and Seimitsu parts from now on since they seem like they last the longest without issues.
Eh, I'm personally not a big fan of the Hayabusa stick, but whatever works for you.
Dominican Power
Member
Hayabusa is too loose. Stick doesn't go back to neutral fast enough. It sucks for old games.
Fixed by a tighter spring. It's the only stick I use, and I play old fighters all the time.
What spring is closest to the JLF? I tried a 2lbs spring and it was way too much.
1lb is in the JLF I believe. 2lb is what I use in the hayabusa and it feels just right.
Bought a couple of boxes a few weeks ago to through together some sort of makeshift display for my newest sticks and other things.
Right now I've got to say the Giant Sword is my favorite. I might buy another Brooks PCB to replace the PS360+ in the Shadaloo Vewlix. It is giving me issues on Windows 10.
Right now I've got to say the Giant Sword is my favorite. I might buy another Brooks PCB to replace the PS360+ in the Shadaloo Vewlix. It is giving me issues on Windows 10.
I tried a 2 lb with the hayabusa and it felt too stiff compared to a Sanwa, but the 1.5 lb felt much better to me with it.
1.5 would probably be closest to sanwa. 2lbs is definitely more stiff.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
I still struggle with Jap stick compared to Happs. I tried an octagonal gate, then the toodles circular one. The circle gate felt better, especially with a bat stick but the throw is way too much. I like my Happs but they are a little slow.
Its a pain dealing with gates when you play SFV and Marvel. I also have a Happ still that so new and stiff. Any way to loosen it?
Its a pain dealing with gates when you play SFV and Marvel. I also have a Happ still that so new and stiff. Any way to loosen it?
just use it and evntually it will break in a bit
Dominican Power
Member
Hori should be one the ones making the adjustments by revising their stick and making improvements.
If you say so. I prefer the ability to customize. Some people might like a looser stick. Some tighter. There is no right opinion.
The hayabusa stick and buttons are plenty popular since they're constantly sold out everywhere. You don't like it, many do.
Dominican Power
Member
I struggle doing qcfs on the hayabusa. Any tips?
notworksafe
Member
Practice
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
What! Have you not been using sticks long?? Or doing qcf's since forever?? I see you don't like the Hayabusa, fair enough, but struggling to do a Hadoken seems crazy to me. I can legit do it on anything. If a Negcon worked on SF, I'd pull them off. It's in my DNA at this point.
So yeah, practice that shit.
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
Has anyone here gotten the Qanba Dragon yet? If so, what are your thoughts?
I play old games on my hayabusa just fine.
moltonasty
Member
The Hayabusa has become my all time fave stick tbh. First time I used one I thought it was a downgrade but I just had to get used to it. Can't stand JLF's anymore, it's all bout dat Hayabusa now (Seimitsu LS 56 are real nice too)
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
This.
I got the LS-56, and I like it a lot, but I still have the same problem I have with all seimitsus in getting random jumps during motions. Has to be something I'm doing, I'm sure, just not sure why it's only with Seimitsus, lol.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
That actually happens to me still with the LS-40 but not the LS-56. They are sensitive, no question. Guess the LS-40 has shortest engage? Dunno.
moltonasty
Member
Never noticed that on my LS 56, it's much more accurate than a JLF that's for sure
It's a seimitsu thing for me, for sure. Not the stick's fault, just me not getting used to them, I mean. It's actually why I used sanwa (until the hayabusa), despite liking how seimitsus feel far better.
Dominican Power
Member
Of course I can but it's inconsistent. Stick has too much throw.
Sounds like you are riding the gate which you shouldn't do in a square gate restrictor.
I ride the gate like a motherfucker lol
Dominican Power
Member
On the contrary, I try my best not to ride the gate. Diagonals just fucking suck on the hayabusa, imo. Maybe it's not the throw but the engage?
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
Hey folks, got a Hori RAP V Hayabusa Silent earlier this year just before SFV came out. It's the version that added an Xinput switch. I personally do like the loose stick and the buttons on it in terms of actual tactile feel, but I saw report that it might have pretty severe input lag, which makes sense because it does feel like some of my inputs don't go through as well as my Madcatz TE2 GGXrd Edition.
I did see teyah's test results on his website, but I did also notice that the RAP V seems to have had two generations, and his test result post on SRK seems to be dated from before the launch of the 2nd model that added the Xinput. Was wondering if anyone knew if tests showed any difference in input lag between the first model and the second? Or if they're basically the same and my failed inputs is just lack of practice with the stick and button feel?
It's a shame if it is indeed that bad, and I do love the tactile feel of the stick, and I know I'm in the minority on that... But I've lately just kept to my Madcatz TE2 for safety, even though I'd prefer to try and get better with my RAP if there's ever been any sort of study done on whether or not the newer model fares better from a latency standpoint.
Didn't really do my research before hand, kind of just figured since it was a wired controller, it'd essentially amount to no input latency whatsoever... So that's my bad.
EDIT: this is the exact one I ordered
I did see teyah's test results on his website, but I did also notice that the RAP V seems to have had two generations, and his test result post on SRK seems to be dated from before the launch of the 2nd model that added the Xinput. Was wondering if anyone knew if tests showed any difference in input lag between the first model and the second? Or if they're basically the same and my failed inputs is just lack of practice with the stick and button feel?
It's a shame if it is indeed that bad, and I do love the tactile feel of the stick, and I know I'm in the minority on that... But I've lately just kept to my Madcatz TE2 for safety, even though I'd prefer to try and get better with my RAP if there's ever been any sort of study done on whether or not the newer model fares better from a latency standpoint.
Didn't really do my research before hand, kind of just figured since it was a wired controller, it'd essentially amount to no input latency whatsoever... So that's my bad.
EDIT: this is the exact one I ordered
Hey guys, I'm looking for an arcade stick for shmups and fighting games and sort of decided on the venom arcade stick. Never owned a fighting stick before. Is the Venom worth it? Also does ds4windows work in cases where a game has xinput only? And does it add lag?(I need one that has both PS4 and PC support) Also should I spend extra and get a RAP 4? I was planning on adding new buttons to the Venom and a joystick after a year or so. And the venom'll last a few years right? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to this.