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Super Smash Bros. 3DS Retail Copy Leaked Early by Smash Gaffer

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Sacul64GC

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PikaZeroX said:
Roster parity is a damn shame, it's not like the games are cross-play. Wii U version should be all it can be, especially with the delay.
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The delay is for debugging. Wii U ver is done content wise, it needs debugging now. I will have something to separate it from the 3DS ver.
 
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Outtrigger888

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EatChildren said:
If Ice Climbers are cut I'd bet it was a combination of development time and the severely restricted 3DS hardware. I believe Sakurai already expressed difficulties getting them working on the platform.

A damn shame if so, further validating my distaste for Wii U/3DS cross platform development.
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Oh, didnt know that. I got ahead of myself.

Green Mamba said:
Rosalina & Luma are pretty far removed from the Ice Climbers--Luma is a very simple puppet that has no rigorous AI of its own. They aren't really a tag team--Rosalina doesn't need Luma like Popo needs Nana. And we have no idea how Duck Hunt plays. The Ice Climbers still stand out well enough, and people are pretty attached to them as Smash Bros. mascots like Jigglypuff, Sheik, and Captain Falcon.
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I guess i should of said a character slot that makes up more than one character.
 
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Busaiku

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EatChildren said:
If Ice Climbers are cut I'd bet it was a combination of development time and the severely restricted 3DS hardware. I believe Sakurai already expressed difficulties getting them working on the platform.

A damn shame if so, further validating my distaste for Wii U/3DS cross platform development.
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That wouldn't make sense when Rosalina and Luma are in.
 
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Dimitri LH

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Ness and falco down....I wanna say bowser junior is next if you beat classic with bowser on hard difficulty.


I AM ONLY GUESSING.
 
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Sacul64GC

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DJIzana said:
Leaks didn't include Falco though.
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Yes they did.

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Blizzard

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Busaiku said:
That wouldn't make sense when Rosalina and Luma are in.
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I think I've seen mentioned that Nana had relatively sophisticated AI since she does her own thing. In contrast, the Luma just does whatever attacks the player chooses, which is simpler.
 
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Green Mamba

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Busaiku said:
That wouldn't make sense when Rosalina and Luma are in.
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The Luma's AI is considerably more simplistic than Nana's. Nana was essentially a full CPU character when she wasn't right next to Popo. Luma is a very simple puppet that has only one real "AI"--float back to Rosalina. They aren't even remotely in the same league.
 
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DJIzana

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Well then. Here's hoping there's still more characters at least.

I've been paying attention to too many other things and not enough of Smash then. Good to know though... thanks for clarifying peeps!
 
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Foxy Fox 39

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There should be more characters. Didn't some Nintendo reps say that there were some crazy surprises? I think someone showed or mentioned all the characters in the leak.
 
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EatChildren

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Busaiku said:
That wouldn't make sense when Rosalina and Luma are in.
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The second Ice Climber required almost if not full AI complexity to operate as intended. In a four player Ice Climber AI match the hardware would essentially need to calculate the behaviours of near eight individuals.

The 3DS CPU is rubbish compared to home consoles (as with nearly all portable devices), in order to minimise power consumption and heat.

If Ice Climbers are cut this technical deficiency would be the most sensible reason, if frustrating for fans.
 
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FSLink

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Kinda wished they just made it just Popo instead, and buff his moveset to compensate the loss of Nana. Better than no Ice Climber at all even if the desync gimmick is lost.
 
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ubiblu

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There are most likely 51 character variants in the game. I can't understand people crying about the loss of two clones, and an arguably expert-level character. Find a new main for god's sake people, or go play your beloved melee.
 
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WonderzL

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EatChildren said:
The second Ice Climber required almost if not full AI complexity to operate as intended. In a four player Ice Climber AI match the hardware would essentially need to calculate the behaviours of near eight individuals.

The 3DS CPU is rubbish compared to home consoles (as with nearly all portable devices), in order to minimise power consumption and heat.

If Ice Climbers are cut this technical deficiency would be the most sensible reason, if frustrating for fans.
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And also Sakurai stated himself that he was having trouble running IC on 3DS. You can't argue when the man himself is saying it's difficult.
 
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FSLink

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ubiblu said:
There are most likely 51 character variants in the game. I can't understand people crying about the loss of two clones, and an arguably expert-level character. Find a new main for god's sake people, or go play your beloved melee.
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The fuck is this shit? :lol
 
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Unbounded

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I'm not really sad about any characters missing since between Custom movesets and character equipment there's no way I'd be unable to find at least ONE combination that I'm absolutely happy with in every way.
 
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Canon

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Console parity is stupid, you'd think they'd want the Wii U version to be superior so that people would buy Wii Us. And who really expected 3DS, less powerful than a GameCube, to be their main smash machine?
 
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Nintendoga

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FSLink said:
Kinda wished they just made it just Popo instead, and buff his moveset to compensate the loss of Nana. Better than no Ice Climber at all even if the desync gimmick is lost.
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I feel like some people would hate that more than there being no Ice Climbers at all.

ubiblu said:
There are most likely 51 character variants in the game. I can't understand people crying about the loss of two clones, and an arguably expert-level character. Find a new main for god's sake people, or go play your beloved melee.
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You can argue about Lucas, but Wolf definitely wasn't a clone.

Bolded part is just terrible. You really can't understand why people are sad that their beloved characters are cut. I don't main Ice Climbers but I still think it sucks they got cut.
 
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TomShoe

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Canon said:
Console parity is stupid, you'd think they'd want the Wii U version to be superior so that people would buy Wii Us. And who really expected 3DS, less powerful than a GameCube, to be their main smash machine?
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Me, at least for now, and anyone that owns a 3DS yet doesn't own a Wii U.
 
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Jorok Goldblade

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Canon said:
Console parity is stupid, you'd think they'd want the Wii U version to be superior so that people would buy Wii Us. And who really expected 3DS, less powerful than a GameCube, to be their main smash machine?
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Iwata, apparently. He asked Sakurai to develop a 3DS Smash. Sakurai is the one who proposed making 3DS and Wii U versions at the same time.
 
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