PorygonVandal
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I understand that more like "out fighter"
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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I understand that more like "out fighter"
Much better
I didn't do it because of you b-baka!
Already done.I hate to be the one to ask, but can someone add little mac to this:
Please!
Wallpaper update!
Smashkirby
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That's a great breakdown. I was just thinking of all these little things I saw and I went and refreshed the page and there it was!
I'd like to mention one thing though, I'm pretty sure the meter is there to show what kind of punch comes out of the charge punch.
With the way that it changes colors there could be about 5 of em.
Blue, Green, Orange and Red arrows and then finally the K.O. punch.
With how you said that the juggle on the Mac vs. Link pic could be a tap of B, that'd be the blue powered one, meanwhile the on Wily's being the better long ranged one being closer towards the Orange and Red range and of course the K.O. punch.
Kind of a leap in logic but an interesting thought going ahead.
I'd like to mention one thing though, I'm pretty sure the meter is there to show what kind of punch comes out of the charge punch.
With the way that it changes colors there could be about 5 of em.
Blue, Green, Orange and Red arrows and then finally the K.O. punch.
With how you said that the juggle on the Mac vs. Link pic could be a tap of B, that'd be the blue powered one, meanwhile the on Wily's being the better long ranged one being closer towards the Orange and Red range and of course the K.O. punch.
Kind of a leap in logic but an interesting thought going ahead.
As if I needed any more reason to love Little Mac, now he's the best Jojo? Ohgodyes.
That'd also explain the point in having a meter in the first place. If he has five different punches it'd be difficult to keep track of just by looking at the character.
EDIT: That could also explain that big punch he did where he was stuck for a bit when he hit the villager and pit.
Oh man, thanks!
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I don't think Little Mac with that moveset would've worked so well with Brawl's physics, he's an aggressive, combo orientated character. Captain Falcon was an aggressive character in Melee, but was ruined in the transition to Brawl because of the physics.
The ability to cancel out hitstun after 13 frames (~5th of a second -_-) during knockback with an airdodge or 25 frames in with an attack just speaks volumes about how defensive and non combo orientated Brawl was.
Without that cancel system, Brawl's hitstun was exactly the same as Melee.
Smash 4 seems to have removed the cancel system, which is great news for a lot of characters.
The ability to cancel out hitstun after 13 frames (~5th of a second -_-) during knockback with an airdodge or 25 frames in with an attack just speaks volumes about how defensive and non combo orientated Brawl was.
Without that cancel system, Brawl's hitstun was exactly the same as Melee.
Smash 4 seems to have removed the cancel system, which is great news for a lot of characters.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Close it up, guys, the game will be cancelled due to sexism.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
that doesn't really negate the point that she completely misinterpreted the joke, just that some people on tumblr take criticisms of games as stupidly seriously as people do innocent jokes
I mean, is the Wii Fit Trainer trailer supposedly fat-shaming because she assaults Mario for no reason?
please don't tell me if somebody actually argued this
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Hai hai, yare yare
I wonder why they went with that kind of style for this one? It just feels so different compared to the other trailers. Maybe it's because Punch-Out is more of a western kind of thing? Though I gotta admit I associate it more to JoJo now thanks to some of the posters in this thread
TheLegendOfCap
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Its one reason I got off of Tumblr. I saw this kind of crap all the time.
Yes, Tumblr had it's Wii Fit Trainer = "fat shaming" controversy already. As well as the "pure white" skin controversy.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Yeah, it didn't really resemble the style of cel-shading Punch-Out!! for the wii used. I'd like to think they're maybe hinting at something else with it, but it was probably just a fun stylistic choice like how they had the Wii Fit fakeout for WFT's reveal.
WFT being white... Sort of makes more sense? I mean, I guess I can see getting annoyed Nintendo barely has any significant black characters, but directing that at WFT/Smash seems weird.
... but smash already has a ton of fat characters whose movesets don't revolve around being fat
WFT being white... Sort of makes more sense? I mean, I guess I can see getting annoyed Nintendo barely has any significant black characters, but directing that at WFT/Smash seems weird.
StreetsAhead
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I may have seen something about how all the Smash 4 females are tall, blonde and skinny, but nothing about fat-shaming.
Oh boy, Tumblr's infamous Social Justice Warriors. Best not to take them seriously.Close it up, guys, the game will be cancelled due to sexism.
Be right back, need to update my Tumblr
DICKS AHOY
Banned
See, I would argue this as well but less as a BE MORE PROGRESSIVE NINTENDO thing and more just visually it gets really boring after awhile. Dixie and more left-field characters like Jill Dozer and Lip the fairy would address that issue nicely me thinks.
TheLegendOfCap
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does doc say that in the game or something? or was he saying mac isn't an "out" of the ring type fighter in a pun like fashion? cause i'm not the only one who heard air lol. oh well, i think the point was made. he's an aggressive bruiser on the ground with crazy fast dodge rolls and super armor attacks. not much aerial game demonstrated, and the little that is shown tells us what we need to know... i think.
doc's coaching in the trailer is awesome.
I think what Little Mac does in the beginning here is a counter:
We only see the part where he gets hit in the beginning, but that seems to be a part of the counter as seen here:
Little Mac doesn't absorb the hit, he does flinch, but that is a part of the counter.
Slowed down version:
The Link counter looks off because it is a different perspective.
I also think the counter is what we see here:
We only see the part where he gets hit in the beginning, but that seems to be a part of the counter as seen here:
Little Mac doesn't absorb the hit, he does flinch, but that is a part of the counter.
Slowed down version:
The Link counter looks off because it is a different perspective.
I also think the counter is what we see here:
The flinch seems to give time for a player to dodge it, which is not really possible for other characters with a counter.
Smashkirby
Member
Ah! I forgot about this too. That would indeed mean that she has a crawl.
Also its not a counter because Link is hit up, not backwards like Samus. I think that last picture could be down-tilt or Smash.
I'm starting to understand why Lil' Mac Daddy has so many super armor moves. It's due to his small statue, and alot of his normals may not have the same range as let's say, Link's or DK's. So he can eat that ish up, and keep rolling through since he will be getting tagged heavily by the longer reach characters.
I'm so late, I know.
I'm so late, I know.
PorygonVandal
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Well, I mainly said it because an "outsider" is a type of fighter in box
StreetsAhead
Member
Well, it's not an untrue assessment, to be sure (although WFT is technically not blonde). Diversity would be nice, but they're also limited to Nintendo's characters, so there's not many options.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I just realized the significance of this scene lol.
That's for all the people thinking it was the boxing ring from kirby.
It sound pretty generic, even for Sakuraba. I don't hear anything that's Sakuraba style in it.
Masked Man
I said wow
Well done, sir!
Little Mac. A Champion of gay men everywhere.
So much muscle it hurts... We finally have a character to gender balance all the Waifu'ing around here.
Yes, please. *drool*
I think you're onto something about the Side-B including a hop. I can't tell from the timing whether he jumps and strikes or not, but I'm inclined to believe that his Side-B works similar to Diddy's Side-B in Brawl.
Also, when they explain the Power Meter, Mac slides toward Bowser and Mega Man and then strikes, which leads me to believe that his Neutral B is a chargeable dashing jab. While charging, Mac receives super armor; when the charge is unleashed, Mac does a straight dash across the field and jabs. If Mac fully charges the Power Meter, the dashing jab becomes an instant-KO uppercut.
theprodigy
Member
oof everything took a beating in the latest NPD month
RIP Wii U, RIP last gen
RIP Wii U, RIP last gen
Silent_Ocarina
Member
He looks like he's performing a Dodge Roll in the Link gif.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
we just need falcon, snake and wario announced so I can recreate muscle march in smash
No clue why, given the realistic human crowd was always there.
Damn, I don't know how I missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.
And Male Fit Trainer lol.
Out of curiosity, is the NES Punch-Out!! considered Little Macs first game? The protagonist of the original arcade game didnt have a name, but Mac fits as an input, and the character was really small for technical reasons. Nintendo also considers the NES game a remake of the original, so it makes sense that the main character would be the same as well.
BassForever
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Little Mac is the main character of the console Punch Out!! games, NES Punch Out!! was his first appearance
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah WFT's very animated. Her crouching has her doing push-ups.
SkullHydra
Member
This is very compelling. I think you might be right! Great job!I think what Little Mac does in the beginning here is a counter:
We only see the part where he gets hit in the beginning, but that seems to be a part of the counter as seen here:
Little Mac doesn't absorb the hit, he does flinch, but that is a part of the counter.
Slowed down version:
The Link counter looks off because it is a different perspective.
I also think the counter is what we see here:
The flinch seems to give time for a player to dodge it, which is not really possible for other characters with a counter.
As for the Samus thing being sexist? How does a character punching a female character in a fighting game for teasing him make it sexist?? Especially since Wii Fit Trainer busted up two male characters (And Kirby) in her reveal for no reason at all...