Apparently this happened during the Ask Kojima thing regarding Snake in Smash 4
Edit: I see Jawmuncher has covered this already
Edit: I see Jawmuncher has covered this already
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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Chances are Kojima doesn't own the character and doesn't require permission for his use, and that's all handled by Konami and their marketing.
But he would probably know and it's probably just like Iizuka saying how it'd be neat to see Sonic again and we saw him less than a month later.
I don't really know anything about Kojima's characters and whatever rights are involved though.
Jawmuncher
Member
I wouldn't see how denying a character would be an issue. Though then again people have done similar and the character pops up later on (talking other fighting games here)
Hmmm well I wasn't tracking Iizuka and sonic, so I guess there still might be a chance I suppose.
TheUntamedLegend
Member
Kojima isn't in a position to confirm anything about Smash Bros though. He cannot say "yes" if Snake truly does return because revealing that is up to Sakurai.
The important thing is that he did not say "no".
The important thing is that he did not say "no".
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I highly doubt Kojima wouldn't know if Snake is in Smash. Konami company is basically Kojima company in terms of games.
Kojima wouldn't reveal Snake, Nintendo would. All reveals, veterans and newcomers, are 'surprises' of various degrees. People wouldn't want to spoil the surprises/reveals.
This is quite the leap.
This is also quite the leap.
Kojima wouldn't reveal Snake, Nintendo would. All reveals, veterans and newcomers, are 'surprises' of various degrees. People wouldn't want to spoil the surprises/reveals.
No, it's just all reasonable logic that says that
People were saying this about Sonic before he got revealed as returning too.
theprodigy
Member
pls, Snake is gone
Big Boss is here
Big Boss is here
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah I know it is quite the leap, but the wait is killing me.
I don't know how some of you do it.
Now to anticipate the other PSAS characters /s
Yea, I understand you must be feeling angst about Snake's return. Then there are those hardcore anti-Snake people because "NINTENDO RELEVANCE".
You just gotta believe!
Scooter155
Member
I missed this, what was the Palutena leak?
Jawmuncher
Member
There's been 1 character announcement a month right?
Has there been one yet? I always seem to miss whenever they are announced.
Yep just have to keep on trucking for a few more months.
Has there been one yet? I always seem to miss whenever they are announced.
Yea, I understand you must be feeling angst about Snake's return. Then there are those hardcore anti-Snake people because "NINTENDO RELEVANCE".
You just gotta believe!
Yep just have to keep on trucking for a few more months.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
How are they even remotely the same thing. When Snake has 2-3 exclusive titles on Nintendo consoles, you call me back.
3DS pics of Palutena on Battlefield stage I think.
theprodigy
Member
who cares
ShockingAlberto
Member
I don't know that this necessarily confirms Snake isn't in, since that would require a plainfaced interpretation of what Kojima is saying.
If I recall correctly, Kojipro was pretty pissed about the PS All-Stars leak that revealed Raiden because they had some co-marketing Rising stuff going on, too. They might not want the same thing to happen this time, as well.
Of course it might actually be as clear as it seems and Snake is gone.
If I recall correctly, Kojipro was pretty pissed about the PS All-Stars leak that revealed Raiden because they had some co-marketing Rising stuff going on, too. They might not want the same thing to happen this time, as well.
Of course it might actually be as clear as it seems and Snake is gone.
Jawmuncher
Member
I was unable to watch the stream so I had to go off what was said in the thread.
That puts it even more in the realm of vagueness. I really hope Snake makes it in. He works great as the outsider character and his moveset is a lot of fun to play with.
At least those 2-3 games are actually exclusive to Nintendo and has not been ported to other consoles.
He's not Nintendo enough!!!11
Never mind he already got in before so this criteria goes put the window.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I don't necessarily dislike this, but I've felt that the Donkey Kong in Country and such struck me as more of a hip, rebellious teenager (like 18 or so, not exactly a teen I guess, but still young), but in recent years, especially in Returns, he's grown into a more level-headed, yet bumbling, dad-like character.
I sort of like the new version of DK though, so I ain't complaining.
Diprosalic
Banned
I'm gonna pop a bottle of champaign as soon as we have confirmation that Snake does not come back.
Have a link to the clip? Would appreciate it lots!
In an old interview, Sakurai said the first thing they had done was to port Brawl's engine, all characters included. So at the very beginning, no character had been cut, and that he apologized in advance should any cuts take place later in development. If, on top of this, Kojima personally asked Sakurai to bring Snake back, I think there's a reasonable chance he's back.
The silence surrounding a character that was Brawl's claim to Ultra Hype is nothing short of really weird, though.
There's a replay on Twitch here, but it loads really slowly for me. The question is at around 29:10.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Just have a lot of patience and don't think about it too much.
Right-O.
I think Palutena Leak thread link is in my OP.
So far, we have two reveals per month for last 3 months.
I hope that Sakurai would use Snake for Kojima and fans' sakes.
I agreed. I love Snake in term of gameplay. It's so much fun to set up mines, etc.
Wait little longer, Please Understand.
Diprosalic
Banned
Why would you guys even want him back? Snake is such a shitty character and doesn't fit in to the Smash universe. Heck he doesn't even really appear on Nintendo platforms besides a bad port for the 3DS.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Its been 2 characters a month(old and new) for a while. We haven't got one this month though.
I could kind of imagine Iwata telling him not to do it.
That didn't stop him from getting in before... while also promoting a game on a competing platform!
I could imagine kojima possibly not wanting now that that he wishes the series to change tonal direction. Then again rising is technically canon, so who knows.
The Bankslammer
Member
for future reference there are 5 metal gear games on nintendo platforms
metal gear on NES (kinda a port of the MSX metal gear, but it ended up being a totally different game, exclusive), snake's revenge (NES, brand new game made as a sequel to nes metal gear, doesn't have anything to do with the real metal gear 2 and wasn't even released in japan, exclusive), metal gear solid: ghost babel (gbc, sorta an alternate take on mgs1, exclusive and very good), metal gear solid: twin snakes (gamecube, remake of mgs1 in mgs2 engine with new cutscenes and va and all that, exclusive), snake eater 3d (3ds, remake of mgs3, i think it's mostly the same but with some photo stealth camo stuff maybe?)
i'm not going to say all of these are great or significant or do/don't qualify him as part of nintendo history or whatever, but i mean there they are
metal gear on NES (kinda a port of the MSX metal gear, but it ended up being a totally different game, exclusive), snake's revenge (NES, brand new game made as a sequel to nes metal gear, doesn't have anything to do with the real metal gear 2 and wasn't even released in japan, exclusive), metal gear solid: ghost babel (gbc, sorta an alternate take on mgs1, exclusive and very good), metal gear solid: twin snakes (gamecube, remake of mgs1 in mgs2 engine with new cutscenes and va and all that, exclusive), snake eater 3d (3ds, remake of mgs3, i think it's mostly the same but with some photo stealth camo stuff maybe?)
i'm not going to say all of these are great or significant or do/don't qualify him as part of nintendo history or whatever, but i mean there they are
He just said an hour ago that he would like to see Snake return.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
There are metal gears games that got released on NES and GameCube.
Nintendoga
Member
Because Snake was a fun addition to the series. Definitely not a shitty character, and he looked no more out of place standing next to Kirby and Pikachu than Ganondorf did standing next to Yoshi or Game & Watch.
Also he appeared on Metal Gear 1 & 2 (US ver) for the NES, Metal Gear Ghost Babel for Gameboy, MGS1 remake Twin Snakes on GCN, as well as the mentioned MGS3 port on the 3DS (even though that's more so Big Boss and not Snake)
Hell he's had more games on Nintendo platform than some of the Nintendo characters themselves.
After Sakurai's statements of trying to keep all the veterans back for Smash 4, it's not too out of the question to expect Snake to be back. I don't see Kojima having a problem with it either, since he practically begged Sakurai to put Snake in ever since Melee.
He's actually more relevant to Nintendo than the Ice Climbers are, lol.
Couldn't care less if he returned or not truthfully but he already has a move set already (an admittingly fun one) and blends in rather well with everyone else. Also sakurai doesn't want to disappoint fans with cuts.
MisterHero
Super Member
This shit needs to end, like yesterday.Get dissecting, fellas.
They're jinxing Shulk's chances.
Ice climbers have one more smash game on him though. But yes, as far as total game appearances, ice climbers lose to snake.