Red Arremer
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So, going back to Friday's shot, what exactly is Tomodachi Collection? I know it's something involving Miis and only in Japan, but what kind of game (if it is any game) is it? And what is that shot supposed to represent?
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi
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Something about killing people if they don't play games I like.
So NeoGAF.
It's a social game that's somewhere between the Sims, Animal Crossing, and Second Life.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Without the lewd and naughty stuff...
...unless localization keeps the "getting pregnant and your Miis getting babies"
...unless localization keeps the "getting pregnant and your Miis getting babies"
"Tomodachi Collection New Life (Friend Collection) is about a community of Miis living together on a small developed island.-snip- Miis can get married and raise children."
From Nintendo wiki.
Red Arremer
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Ahh... so what exactly is the Smash stage, then?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Your room in the apartment.
Considering it's an apartment, I bet your Smash fight will travel to other apartment rooms.
Just didn't seem like any care was given to him really. Low priority, awkward air game, even in this he seems slower on ground than Mac from the footage I've seen. It was kind of like Sakurai was making a mockery of the character considering almost all of his moves involve him curling into a ball, except his B-Up arguably his most useful move anyway.
Actually has nothing to do with Mega Man, it has to do with his career going to shit and him not being fixed. The countless amount of shitty games, them never being as good as the original classics, the people dropping their standards to say more recent ones are different, I rent them and they STILL end up being complete shit etc. It's kind of funny really, he's constantly updated to appeal to modern kids but he's a shadow of his former self. If anything the modern version of him should have died with the 90s, but it's like he made a deal with Satan to bypass that judgement and still string along the delusional fans who still think he is the same as he once was.
Boss Doggie
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He was kinda last in development.
SenorArdilla
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"Alright. We're almost done. Let's get these last few characters. Wait, what?! Sega wants Sonic to be playable now? Quick! Drop everything and get Sonic in as quick as possible!"
Benzychenz
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RIP Mewtwo
Oh hey Punch-Out Wii arrived today, just got to get all the KONG letters and puzzles in the last world of DKCR and then I'll jump into it and get Little Mac hype.
Red Arremer
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You ARE aware that Sonic was the last character in development, and was given a very short notice moveset, right? That they didn't have as much time to work him out like the other characters.
Arguable - there's been good games that weren't the classics in the series (the Sonic Advance games, for instance, are excellent), and also, I would argue that especially Sonic 1 hasn't aged very well.
The more recent ones are decent to great, but of course, if you pick up a game and already start playing it with the desire to hate it, you will end up hating it, and ignore the positive aspects of it.
Except that he's not? Sonic hasn't changed his design since Sonic Adventure 1 (with the exception of the shoes in SA2). There's been "alt versions" like the Wolfhog or Knight Sonic, but those are just "costumes", if you want. The regular, basic Sonic design has remained the same.
Sonic Boom is not even a Sonic Team product, and a spin-off. Are you going to criticize Dr. Mario for dressing Mario up as a doctor, too, then?
I remember you bringing up this same argument before and I made an enormous post showing you how Mario has been constantly updated too. And let's not even start with your namesake...
Well he is fast enough to be rushed into the game
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Segattago fast
I find it weird that you'll be POW SPOILERS
Huh, just realized Punch Out Wii abbreviates to POW
I find it weird that you'll be POW SPOILERS
punching the player character of the last game you played
Huh, just realized Punch Out Wii abbreviates to POW
Actually Generations was nice, though it just reminds me of his downfall, everything else not so much. The advance series were actually nothing spectacular compared to the old games, granted they were better than most of the other ones at the time. I have all the advance games too. I bought Yoshi's New Island and expected it to play like shit, it didn't. The problem with Sonic games is not that I think they are bad going in, for example I rented Sonic Lost World and the controls literally were terrible. Sonic did not control well, he hardly does in any thing except 2D games and there is no guarantee they even get that right (I'm looking at you Sonic 4 - a game Sega didn't even bother full-heartedly finishing mind you).
The problem comes from me actually listening to people like you who go "give the new games a chance." I think "Maybe I will." I pick up the game and it actually is horrible and I get even more pissed at Sonic and the little adult fanbase he has left that constantly gives him free passes and are more liniment with his newer games.
If you think comparing Mario getting a spinoff puzzle series Dr. uniform is the same as Sonic becoming more "extreme looking" your arguments shouldn't be taken seriously. I was even going to post images, but there really is no point now. Mario was not updated to pander, he was modernized because he appears mostly in 3D, look at the hand drawn art in 3D land, its almost exactly like his 90s look. He can literally be drawn to look like his original form, you CAN NOT do the same thing with the new Sonic and its a joke that you even remotely think that.
If Sakurai hates Sonic because his moveset sucks, I don't even want to know what he thinks of The Legend of Zelda (Link's been low tier every game) or Metroid (Samus was decent in Melee? Better fix that!).
They were probably trying to finish the SSE
poor guys couldn't get jiggs and wolf in there.To be more similar to my point Samus needs to have most of her specials be a diferent variation of the screw attack and Link just used different Sword techs as his specials.
Red Arremer
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Alright, let's compare:
Mario in the 90s (artwork from SMW):
Mario in 3D World (latest game):
Oh hey would you look at that. Mario got taller and leaner. That doesn't happen to remind you of somebody who was fatter and smaller in the 90s as well, does it?
theprodigy
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Sakurai hates LoZ confirmed
Red Arremer
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He said hand drawn.
Alright then.
This is from Mario Paint/SMW. Essentially the same pose/face. You'll notice that the old art has a bit chubbier face (new one is leaner and more proportional to the body, just like the 3D model), and that the new art doesn't have nearly as much gut as the old one.
Obviously, it's held in the style of the 90s art, but it still carries the changes to Mario that have been made since the 90s.
theprodigy
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They were probably trying to finish the SSE
or Toon Link
RIP
Alright, let's compare:
Mario in the 90s (artwork from SMW):
Mario in 3D World (latest game):
Oh hey would you look at that. Mario got taller and leaner. That doesn't happen to remind you of somebody who was fatter and smaller in the 90s as well, does it?
What the hell? He looks EXACTLY the damn same.
To the point that it's not even reflected in modern hand illustrations.
Samus can't crawl with the Power Suit on. Her signature power-up transforms her into crawling form and yet she still wasn't given a crawl.
A lot of characters have weird decisions about their movesets. DK is another good example; he doesn't have his signature rolling move.
Yeah, I know, why can't metroid crawl.
Red Arremer
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What the hell? He looks EXACTLY the damn same.
To the point that it's not even reflected in modern hand illustrations.
I would like to point you here, towards this:
Again, the face is much more proportional to the body in your shot, than in the old artwork.
Also, "exactly the same" my ass. Have you looked at how round Mario looks in old artwork, with his stubby legs, as opposed to the models they're using now? Let me illustrate my point further, using again that Mario Paint/SMW art:
And let's use a standing pose, from Mario Party 7:
You can't tell me that they look "exactly the same" - modern Mario is taller, leaner, and has less cartoony proportions in his body shape. In the old art he is completely round, in new artwork he actually is just chubby and he has longer legs. His facial structure also got changed to be more humanly proportionate while retaining the cartoon style.
If you think there's been no changes to Mario's body type, you're legally blind.
Boss Doggie
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So the statement "metroid can't crawl" is true after all
And the crawl thing is from Zero Mission - ZSS can crawl in the game.
What's a missed opportunity is Wolf not being able to crawl despite having a crouching position of going on all fours.
Nintendoga
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Are we having a Classic Mario and Modern Mario debate?
Cause Classic Sonic's better then all of them combined.
Cause Classic Sonic's better then all of them combined.
Classic skin for Smash 4 pls
Boss Doggie
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Red Arremer
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No, I'm trying to tell people that modern Mario looks different from classic Mario, but apparently they look exactly the same.
I always just assumed that the majority of the old artwork was of small mario because that was his default state in the older games, whereas they almost completely got rid of the whole big mario/small mario mechanic until recently, so they just defaulted to the big mario design for most of his games.
I still think the design looks quite similar when he's small, apart from having a really fat head.
I still think the design looks quite similar when he's small, apart from having a really fat head.
You're supposed to reach the Nadir just before the work week starts.
You are all fired.
Probably.
Plus no Bathroom breaks.
And I wonder what caused the North American delay.
You are all fired.
They were probably trying to finish the SSE
Probably.
Plus no Bathroom breaks.
And I wonder what caused the North American delay.
theprodigy
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hey guys
what does classic Lucario look like then
what does classic Lucario look like then
What the hell? He looks EXACTLY the damn same.
To the point that it's not even reflected in modern hand illustrations.
Face? Maybe. Body? HELL NO, Mario's legs are two stubby pegs before the 3D games
hey guys
what does classic Lucario look like then
Oh please, his game is 8 years old, can't be a classic yet
Red Arremer
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He still has the fat body shape and stubby legs in the pictures that have him use a powerup (flower, cape, raccoon suit/tail, pick your poison), so it's not small Mario. And aside from the mainline games, he's been depicted as big Mario (e.g. Dr. Mario or Mario Paint), where the body shape is the same as well.
I just find it absolutely bizarre that Sega gets so much hatred for making Sonic leaner and taller, when Nintendo has done exactly the same thing and it was perfectly fine.
Also, again, the Sonic Boom design is a one-shot. It's not made by Sonic Team, is not considered a mainline game for all intents and purposes, so my comparison to Dr. Mario is not far-fetched - it's as much of a spin-off to Sonic as Dr. Mario is to the Mario games.
I would like to point you here, towards this:
Again, the face is much more proportional to the body in your shot, than in the old artwork.
Also, "exactly the same" my ass. Have you looked at how round Mario looks in old artwork, with his stubby legs, as opposed to the models they're using now? Let me illustrate my point further, using again that Mario Paint/SMW art:
And let's use a standing pose, from Mario Party 7:
You can't tell me that they look "exactly the same" - modern Mario is taller, leaner, and has less cartoony proportions in his body shape. In the old art he is completely round, in new artwork he actually is just chubby and he has longer legs. His facial structure also got changed to be more humanly proportionate while retaining the cartoon style.
If you think there's been no changes to Mario's body type, you're legally blind.
And yet
In that he is much more round that in that Mario Party art you showed. And as I said before when he translates to hand art he looks like his old art, the body is still round even in that 3D world shot if you look closely enough at the body, arms are still just as thick.
If anything this just proves my point further, his basic design stays so similar, if different people work on him he ends up not staying exactly in a specific form. He looks more athletic in Smash than he does in his mainline material for instance. Sonic would not be able to have the same effect done to him, you can clearly tell the difference between a hand drawn modern and a hand dawn classic. You are arguing semantics, Sonic got a full on redesign. More similar to Crash and Spyro than to Mario.
Yeah, and it functions in that game as an inferior replacement for the Morph Ball. So Power Suit Samus should still be able to crawl in Morph Ball mode.
JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING
theprodigy
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YOU SUCK McPRODIGY
Pretty much. Want your "classic" Mario? There he is!
Thanks for reminding me, I STILL need to get a 2GB SD card, I can only find 4 GB and up around me >.<
theprodigy
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I should buy a bigger SD card, transfer all my 3DS stuff over from my 2 GB, and send it to you
I should buy a bigger SD card, transfer all my 3DS stuff over from my 2 GB, and send it to you
Funny guy, on a serious note, micro SD cards with an adapter should work, right?
Edit: Nvm I'll try to pick this up tomorrow
If you have no qualms about homebrewing your console then you can use a 4gb. It just takes extra steps for it.
I believe the same, but people want it so I made a thread for it.