Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi

I sure hope that use of the word drastic wasn't serious. People will agree that the designs have been tweaked over time (Mario's overalls having a colour flip for example) but just looking at the art for SMB and all the characters are essentially identical to their current day counter parts

http://www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Super_Mario_Bros.

Also it is a good idea to look at some characters second appearance.

http://www.mariowiki.com/Gallery:Yoshi

Yoshi's appearance in SMW is the of one out. In fact due to the early primitive 3D renders Yoshi's look did look off but they've slowly made it closer to how he was originally depicted.

I thought the current Yoshi design was based off of the baby Yoshi from Yoshi's Story.

I loved Melee Yoshi and wish that design came back for SSB4. It was a cool evolution of Super Mario World, Mario 64, and Smash 64's Yoshi.
 
Alright guys, leave any notion that this game needs to stay pure and Nintendo-holy at the door and answer this.
If you could have ANY character in the game, who would you pick?

I'll go with Batman, or maybe Harry Potter.

Kirito from SAO. And you thought Meta Knight was broken.
 
the Nintendo gallery in wind waker HD is really impressive. From the next gen screenshot thread, Neiteio posted some really awesome pics and boy it's really impressive I mean just look at the level of shiny and details in this trophy gallery, I can only hope that Sakurai puts more effort into Smash U's trophy collection.
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I loved collecting every single trophy in Melee, and viewing them on that table, if only there was a way to rearrange all the trophies in Smash U to my liking ._. ..hope the table returns x.x
 
One thing that helps Mario is that he actually looks a lot better in his new designs.

It's not so much about trying to make him "cooler" as it feeling like more polish.

When I look at that old mario art he honestly looks kinda wonky to me.

Oh, I agree that new Mario looks a lot better, but I feel the same about Sonic, too. I don't understand what exactly is better about fat stumpy Sonic as opposed to the leaner one, and I've grown up with Sonic games in the 16-Bit generation (I never had Super Mario World on my SNES as a kid, only All-Stars which came with it, and I only played that for Lost Levels cause I already had the first 3 Mario games on my NES). Beyond just scapegoating the modern design for the "downfall" of Sonic games, the hatred for it is just absolutely irrational and bizarre.

And a lot of the things that are said for Sonic's design can be said for Mario - both became taller and leaner, both went 3D, both started talking, both became a lot more expressive in their art, etc.

I also think that while the games following Sonic CD weren't particularly great, they too get way too much hatred. I thought the Adventures games, Heroes, even Shadow the Hedgehog were alright games that had quite a lot of good concepts and ideas. The execution was lacking in some regards (i.e. the absolutely awful camera in Shadow, or the annoying soundbits in Heroes), but they were still fun games. The only Sonic game I would consider truly TRULY shit out of them are Sonic 2006 and Sonic Chronicles (though I haven't gotten around playing any Sonic games since Unleashed, except for Colors which is pretty fun). I also enjoyed the Sonic Riders spin-offs a lot, they were pretty damn cool racers.

I don't consider myself a Sonic fan, as I don't care much for the character(s) or the series. I played those games because I came across them for cheap and/or because they looked good to me (in case of Colors or the Riders games). I can't say that I had bad experiences with them beyond Sonic 06 and Chronicles. And even Sonic 06 has a redeeming quality: it's a glitchfest of massive proportions, so glitching around in the game to do things you're not intended to do is really fun.
 
I'm a little concerned that we still have no info on other game modes or online play. Even the Mario 8 video from June's direct confirmed online and some of it's features.
 
I'm a little concerned that we still have no info on other game modes or online play. Even the Mario 8 video from June's direct confirmed online and some of it's features.
You bring up Mario Kart, and yet that game is coming out at the end of May and yet we still know very little about it. It's not very surprising that we know little about Smash.
 
Yeah, I mean I love the old Mario games, but the newer Mario is leagues better.

However, I also feel the same about Sonic.

Oh, I agree that new Mario looks a lot better, but I feel the same about Sonic, too.


I actually don't have a lot of problems with Sonic's modern design so I'm not necessarily the person to argue this, but I feel like Mario's redesign is more universally better.

With Sonic I feel like the redesign is fine, but also an aquired taste in some ways.

With Mario I can't imagine someone liking old Mario better for any reason other than nostalgia.


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a minor mention is that aside from consistenty in artwork/quality the stamps in SM3Dworld honestly look like old mario to me.
 
You bring up Mario Kart, and yet that game is coming out at the end of May and yet we still know very little about it. It's not very surprising that we know little about Smash.

Yet we still know there is online play for up to 12 players and the Mario Kart channel for replays. Smash we have heard nothing about online at all.
 
Yet we still know there is online play for up to 12 players and the Mario Kart channel for replays. Smash we have heard nothing about online at all.
Mario Kart is the face of Nintendo's online efforts. It's not exactly shocking news it has online.

Also wasn't Namco's involvement with Smash partly for the netcode.
 
Alright guys, leave any notion that this game needs to stay pure and Nintendo-holy at the door and answer this.
If you could have ANY character in the game, who would you pick?

I'll go with Batman, or maybe Harry Potter.

Satan from Shin Megami Tensei II

Now Ridley is small enough to be in Smash.
 
Mario Kart is the face of Nintendo's online efforts. It's not exactly shocking news it has online.

Also wasn't Namco's involvement with Smash partly for the netcode.

I'm hoping Namco's responsible for the netcode, but I don't recall Namco outright saying they will be responsible for the netcode
 
Alright guys, leave any notion that this game needs to stay pure and Nintendo-holy at the door and answer this.
If you could have ANY character in the game, who would you pick?

I'll go with Batman, or maybe Harry Potter.

Darth Maul and Savage Opress tag team. I imagine you switching between them Donkey Kong Country style. Maul being quick and combolicious while Savage is slower but insanely powerful.


Think if Melee Sheik transformed into Melee Ganondorf.
 
I'm hoping Namco's responsible for the netcode, but I don't recall Namco outright saying they will be responsible for the netcode
Guess I was just remembering the rustling in the bushes.

Still I highly doubt Smash will not have online.
 
I've never played smash online, how bad was it?

I've only done random battles online, but when I got my Wii back this week, one of the first things I tried out was Brawl online, it was good for all of 45 seconds before the lag was obvious. It's very inconsistent to say the least
 
It was so bad. I mean I'd go into a random match as Captain Falcon and the other players would just gang up on me before I could spam "Show your moves". Talk about uncivilised.
 
I've never played smash online, how bad was it?
The loading time is atrocious, but its playable if you want to play against friends, as long as you accept the minor lag. As a competitive fighter it is unplayable, but as a party game it works tolerably well.
 
From what we are hearing so far, long-distance attacks are getting buffed (din's fire, Samus' charge shot), and character's unique abilities are more significant and refined (Browser/DK's strength, Lucarios' aura, ) I would not be surprised that there will be some major buffs for characters like Link and Ganondorf.

:) you have lifted my spirits this day good sir
 
I've played Brawl's online 2 or 3 times. All horrible experiences. If anything it felt like all the characters were running in molasses.

Eventually Medaka. She'd learn everyone's abilities and use them all against them xD
J-Stars Victory Vs wins the title of the ultimate broken game?
I want the game to be localized so bad, it won't happen though ;-;

Why not Tsugmi?
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Oh you :3c
 
J-Stars Victory Vs wins the title of the ultimate broken game?
I want the game to be localized so bad, it won't happen though ;-;

I want it too! :(

Madara, Gintoki and
Chitoge
is the ultimate team. >:D
 
When was the last time we had a bad week?

Good point, just with everyone hyping a veteran reveal last week (yoshi) and not getting one I still felt a little let down. I fully admit we are getting spoiled (and entitled) in SmashGAF the last few weeks. I only hope that the increase in quality weeks continues to hint that we are closer to a reveal than many expect
 
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