Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 9: F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

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Karsticles said:
Yeah, but are you a Bowser main? I am, and I am dropping him because of these changes. We have a dozen characters that punch and kick. We didn't need more.

Samus' bombs exploded on contact in Melee. It made them fun and worth using.
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Well im not exactly a bowser main but i do appreciate the change regardless since it feels this new bowser is a take on his ML3 version since i see him punching a lot in this game lol (Honestly im just hoping they dont change his side b since that was probably my favorite move with him)

ill post a video of a boss battle i dont know about spoilers for this so ill just spoiler the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XGWqebvEw


edit because im stupid : i forgot the melee intro with samus and ridley rofl
 
Judging by some of the videos I seen with and without direct audio, it sounds like Bowser still has his typical generic movie monster voice. Hopefully its because the new voices aren't in this build that's been floating around. Would love him to sound like he does in Bowser's Inside Story or close.

EDIT: Speaking of voices, I just found voice sfx files for all the characters in BIS. Gonna try to put these voices on Project M Bowser
 
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[QUOTE="D";118690664]Judging by some of the videos I seen with and without direct audio, it sounds like Bowser still has his typical generic movie monster voice. Hopefully its because the new voices aren't in this build that's been floating around. Would love him to sound like he does in Bowser's Inside Story or close.

EDIT: Speaking of voices, I just found voice sfx files for all the characters in BIS. Gonna try to put these voices on Project M Bowser[/QUOTE]

I should start a petition to put in his voice from Super Mario Sunshine.
 
Karsticles said:
My question still stands. Who here made the "Everything is better in Melee" statement?
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There are people in the community who will always give Melee the benefit of the doubt because they liked it better. This includes the overreaction regarding the space animal designs, the defending of clones, and arguing that Melee Bowser looks better than this one. Despite Melee/Browser look like poop. I could go on.

Weird that you believe someone has to state that word for word. Seems like you might just be fishing for an argument. I never said someone said it, nor does someone have to for me to feel this vibe I get. The quotations weren't there to be taken literally.
 
SpinDasher said:
There are people in the community who will always give Melee the benefit of the doubt because they liked it better. This includes the overreaction regarding the space animal designs, the defending of clones, and arguing that Melee Bowser looks better than this one. Despite Melee/Browser look like poop. I could go on.

Weird that you believe someone has to state that word for word. Seems like you might just be fishing for an argument. I never said someone said it, nor does someone have to for me to feel this vibe I get. The quotations weren't there to be taken literally.
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Yes but... Who HERE made that statement? There's zero point in arguing what other people in the community think when they aren't here arguing it themselves. Pretty sure almost everyone here has stated that brawl does do plenty things better.
 
Fox's redesign still looks ugly with that weird duck mouth. Falco's was an improvement.
SpinDasher said:
There are people in the community who will always give Melee the benefit of the doubt because they liked it better. This includes the overreaction regarding the space animal designs, the defending of clones, and arguing that Melee Bowser looks better than this one. Despite Melee/Browser look like poop. I could go on.

Weird that you believe someone has to state that word for word. Seems like you might just be fishing for an argument. I never said someone said it, nor does someone have to for me to feel this vibe I get. The quotations weren't there to be taken literally.
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You were the only person talking about this shit.
 
You also have to keep in mind that Bowser hasn't been updated since Melee.

At the time Bowser's last 'canon' appearance was Mario 64, where he was hunched over, slow, and made dinosaur noises.

I thought it was cool at the time, but an update has been overdue for awhile now.
 
Anura said:
Yes but... Who HERE made that statement? There's zero point in arguing what other people in the community think when they aren't here arguing it themselves. Pretty sure almost everyone here has stated that brawl does do plenty things better.
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Same goes for here. Boom, I said it.

Toxi said:
Fox's redesign still looks ugly with that weird duck mouth. Falco's was an improvement.

You were the only person talking about this shit.
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Of course, the let me bold one part of the post because it is convenient.

I was the only person talking about Melee/Brawl Bowser being ugly? Yeah I brought up the Melee thing, because it is true. Why are some people bothered by the obvious on here? Of course there will always be people who are level headed and show no bias, but there are definitely some who aren't.

I'll always call it like I see it, and that's what I see a lot of. It's always the same group of people defending Melee or Brawl. There is really no reason to even argue this.

EDIT: I said the argument thing because he posted something like, "who gives a fuck about source material" or something like that. Sounded really inconsiderate.
 
sorakirosaki said:
Well im not exactly a bowser main but i do appreciate the change regardless since it feels this new bowser is a take on his ML3 version since i see him punching a lot in this game lol (Honestly im just hoping they dont change his side b since that was probably my favorite move with him)

ill post a video of a boss battle i dont know about spoilers for this so ill just spoiler the link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9XGWqebvEw


edit because im stupid : i forgot the melee intro with samus and ridley rofl
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Thank you for the video. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seemed pretty dull and QTE-esque in quality.

SpinDasher said:
There are people in the community who will always give Melee the benefit of the doubt because they liked it better. This includes the overreaction regarding the space animal designs, the defending of clones, and arguing that Melee Bowser looks better than this one. Despite Melee/Browser look like poop. I could go on.

Weird that you believe someone has to state that word for word. Seems like you might just be fishing for an argument. I never said someone said it, nor does someone have to for me to feel this vibe I get. The quotations weren't there to be taken literally.
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Toxi said:
You were the only person talking about this shit.
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What Toxi said. You lit a fire while pointing off into space at an invisible culprit. I'm just asking you to tell me who the hell you are referring to, because I don't see that going on here at all. If no one said it, why are you bringing up something that tends to start arguments around here?

SpinDasher said:
EDIT: I said the argument thing because he posted something like, "who gives a fuck about source material" or something like that. Sounded really inconsiderate.
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Your inability to read a conversation to gather context has nothing to do with the comment you made.
 
I definitely agree that it would have been better to update Bowser without taking away some of his more original move types. He really does seem visually homogenized in Smash 4, and not just because he's standing upright. I very much would have liked to see him keep some of his headbutts and shell attacks - despite them being arguably less true to Bowser in the Mario games context, they served to make him a more unique character.

It's like Wario's Waft attack. Is it true to Wario within the Mario context? Hell no, it's basically pulled out of nowhere - even if you argue that Wario farting on people is canonically logical, he never had a crazy charging explode fart attack. However, even if they were to redesign Wario to make him more Wario Land-esque
(please based Sakurai)
I wouldn't want them to remove the Waft because it helps make Wario a more unique character in the context of SSB.

Also, have we talked about this? It looks to me that we are totally getting a new character tomorrow. I just wonder who it could be... maybe Lucas, since it's a Japan-only event and all.
 
C.Olimar788 said:
It's like Wario's Waft attack. Is it true to Wario within the Mario context? Hell no, it's basically pulled out of nowhere - even if you argue that Wario farting on people is canonically logical, he never had a crazy charging explode fart attack. However, even if they were to redesign Wario to make him more Wario Land-esque
(please based Sakurai)
I wouldn't want them to remove the Waft because it helps make Wario a more unique character in the context of SSB.
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Wario farting has since been established elsewhere, so there's definitely no point in removing it.

http://www.mariowiki.com/He_Who_Smelt_It...
http://www.mariowiki.com/Gas_Mask!
 
HawthorneKitty said:
Are we posting Smash fanart?

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Haha, I can read part of that. At long last, my studies have paid off.
 
I don't care about this enough to argue.

I'm not gonna start naming off other posters either, fuck off with that. Pretend that bias doesn't exist in here if you like.
 
I will say his back air with the shell attack was pretty great. I'll miss that.

Karsticles said:
Thank you for the video. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seemed pretty dull and QTE-esque in quality.
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That's because it's from a specific sort of boss fight where Bowser--in giant form--battles characters of similar size. Here's a video that better represents his normal fighting style.
 
Karsticles said:
Thank you for the video. Maybe I'm missing something, but that seemed pretty dull and QTE-esque in quality.
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its not all of the game but there is a need to time moves to get *maximum dmg* but u can still get damage regardless of wether u miss or not (Game is pretty fun those as rpgs go and for the first one in the series i tried i enjoyed it)

i think this boss doesnt really say much about the game i just wanted to show one aspect of new bowser standing and punching :p im sure others could find better stuff :P

post above: Thanks XD
 
MrSaturn99 said:
That's because it's from a specific sort of boss fight where Bowser--in giant form--battles characters of similar size. Here's a video that better represents his normal fighting style.
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That's also the first giant battle, and it's basic and kind of a tutorial. The later ones get way more involved, like the Fawful Express, though they're still simpler than basic battles most of the time.
 
balladofthewindfish said:
What does Brawl do better? :D
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Well I think it's got more characters and a larger item selection (final smashes are by far my favorite thing when I play casually). Even aesthetically I love it's battlefield and FD more than Melee's (you with get to choose purple or blue...) and the spacers heads aren't stupidly oversized anymore
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Heck I know some people don't like the brawl stage choices but I really didn't mind it. I wish there where more basic platform ones but it didn't bother too much. Soundtrack too. I thought Melee's was kinda bland.
 
sorakirosaki said:
i really love and hate how fox looks in this i love the colors but he looks like a sonic character :T samus looks great though pikmin are a bit of a hit and miss but olimar is great XD
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I wouldn't say he looks like a Sonic character -the lighting and segmented face kind of makes him look like a plushie. Which reminds me of how amazing the space animals would look if modelled in the style of Greninja's Substitute doll...
 
balladofthewindfish said:
What does Brawl do better? :D
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bail out lol

Golnei said:
I wouldn't say he looks like a Sonic character -the lighting and segmented face kind of makes him look like his own plushie. Which reminds me of how amazing the space animals would look if modelled in the style of Greninja's Substitute doll...
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yeah looking at it a bit more he does look more like a plushie but to me it just kinda reminds me of it just a personal thing (not that i absolutely hate it just was kinda weird to look at) my wording is terrible so im sorry :(
 
MrSaturn99 said:
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Lol. I'm sick of arguing right now... It's why I ignored spindasher's response. I subjectively like the melee mechanics more and the wealth of brawl content is awesome and I personally think PM is the best smash game ever as it combines the best of both. Let other folks argue any other merits or try to tease out some sort of objectivity from it all. I'm done arguing...
 
Anura said:
Well I think it's got more characters and a larger item selection (final smashes are by far my favorite thing when I play casually). Even aesthetically I love it's battlefield and FD more than Melee's (you with get to choose purple or blue...) and the spacers heads aren't stupidly oversized anymore
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Heck I know some people don't like the brawl stage choices but I really didn't mind it. I wish there where more basic platform ones but it didn't bother too much. Soundtrack too. I thought Melee's was kinda bland.
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It has more, but does that mean Brawl does anything better than Melee? Your aesthetic preferences are noted, though. :D
 
IntelliHeath said:
Why people are insist trying to start Brawl vs Melee argument again?
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I think it's just a natural outcome thanks to the gulf between what the various sides of the fanbase value. Like I said I'm done with it though... I got my opinions and don't really want to argue them anymore
 
Tripon said:
I thought Intelliheath asked Melee vs. Brawl discussions to be in its own thread.
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That would probably be the worst thread on Gaming Side lol.

To start, the entitlement will discourage any good discussion, and then people will get their feelings hurt. The most infinitesimal things will turn into 3 page arguments, and people will get banned over it. Best bet is to let it run it's course and hope Smash 4 is the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
 
Masked Man said:
Well, after boarding the train at 4:30 AM and waiting in line for three hours, I did it, friends!
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Hmm, is there any event or venue where you could see a character reveal happening?

I wonder if Sakurai is at the World Hobby Fair himself...
 
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