Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong

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Why? The leak seems to be legit. Of course we would have to wait and see, but let me tell you Koopalings/Bowser Jr. and Duck Hunt Dog would be the best things ever.

Both make sense. Most everyone that had a NES had Duck Hunt, and Nintendo has been primarely featuring the Koopalings and had them all in MK8 over other notable veterans like Diddy Kong and Birdo.

Plus them being able to be in the Koopa Car makes perfect sense aswell when you look at one of Bowser Jr's NSMB boss (forgot which one, but yall can probably find a picture) has Bowser Jr. In the Koopa Car with a shield over the top, meaning if they implement that, the hitboxes would remain the same for all Koopalings and Bowser Jr. The Koopa Car also has boxing gloves and would probably have a Bob-Omb or Bullet Bill attacks aswell.

Everyone seems to be ignoring the leak, which is whatever. But to me the idea of the Koopa Kids in the Koopa Car has really made perfect sense to me. Especially with how Nintendo has been promoting the Koopa Kids more and more.

Agreed. I know most look and go "all the Koopa kids?! No way!" But the way it's described makes perfect sense to me. Honestly Bowser Jr was probably the only one until that guy from 2 e3's ago told Sakurai to his face that he wanted a team of 7 Koopa kids as a playable character. That goon...

Also I don't see how Duck Hunt Dog is any less probable that ROB or G&W were.

I'm not 100% convinced but it makes sense. As for the cut characters in the leak those guys only speculated that portion. Even still I expect them back even as only DLC.
 
Agreed. I know most look and go "all the Koopa kids?! No way!" But the way it's described makes perfect sense to me. Honestly Bowser Jr was probably the only one until that guy from 2 e3's ago told Sakurai to his face that he wanted a team of 7 Koopa kids as a playable character. That goon...

Also I don't see how Duck Hunt Dog is any less probable that ROB or G&W were.

I'm not 100% convinced but it makes sense. As for the cut characters in the leak those guys only speculated that portion. Even still I expect them back even as only DLC.
I can't be arsed to sign up for Smashboards. Could someone at least copy/paste this alleged leak?
 
A leaks legitimacy is not determined by the plausibility of the facts given. You guys are like. This looks legit, I would like this idea.

Its still just as unlikely as any other leak. And this is smash bros. People try to be weird with the leaks to emulate sakurais tendencies
 
If they can acess the game code to fix bugs, they can change everything thats not hardware related.

UI, models and things alike are just code at its core, so if they want, they can completely change the game.

Like project M, they changed the UI just with code

Of course. All I'm saying is that I'm not fully aware of WHAT code they have access to. If they have access to ALL code within the game, then the sky's the limit. If they only have access to some config values, then that's a bit different.
 
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Of course. All I'm saying is that I'm not fully aware of WHAT code they have access to. If they have access to ALL code within the game, then the sky's the limit. If they only have access to some config values, then that's a bit different.

They have the ability to replace the anything with the way patching works on 3DS. It's not some limited function that can only touch configuration files, the system fully supports it.
 
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I wonder if Sakurai ever actually considered to make Nintendog as playable character during Brawl development. I wonder if he tried to tackle it again during Smash 4. He realized that Nintendog isn't feasible at all but he could port some of dog-ish moves to Duck Hunt Dog.

Just a weird theory here. Actually, don't mind me.

before people actually think I believe in the leaks. I don't. I don't mind to see Duck Hunt Dog become playable character tho. The chance is unlikely as everyone know.
 
Of course. All I'm saying is that I'm not fully aware of WHAT code they have access to. If they have access to ALL code within the game, then the sky's the limit. If they only have access to some config values, then that's a bit different.
Ah, I understood..
But theres no thing like parts of the code being out of their reach.. They are the developers, so they have the source code, not to mention that its their own console, they know how it encrypt/read/write
 
i still want ted & archie as nintendogs reps. they're perfect!

they'd summon trick-performing dogs for their attacks, and you wouldn't even need to worry about beating up puppies.
 
Can anyone post the actual info from said leak and what exactly makes it believable.

Ps also guys lets steer away from Nintendogs talk before Sakurai gives another useless Nintendogs stage pic.
 
A leaks legitimacy is not determined by the plausibility of the facts given. You guys are like. This looks legit, I would like this idea.

Its still just as unlikely as any other leak. And this is smash bros. People try to be weird with the leaks to emulate sakurais tendencies
For sure, but in this case, WiiRevolution said the mods at Smashboards actually made the guy show them "proof" over private messages, so I suppose there's a sliver of a chance of legitimacy, similar to mods here vetting self-proclaimed leakers. That's the only reason I'm inclined to give this at least a passing glance.
 
People believed it because moderators vouched for it.
Yeah, so it comes down to how much scrutiny the mods apply. For all we know, they could be just as bad as the regular members, believing anything that they can "picture" in their minds as "feeling right." But maybe they're vouching for it based on something more substantial, like a GAF-style PM check on sources, etc.
 
The leaker also uploaded some mock ups of new costume colors for Mario and Bowser before they were shown off at E3. The time stamps check out at least.
That's encouraging, although hopefully it's not the sole reason the mods are vouching for this one.
 
They have the ability to replace the anything with the way patching works on 3DS. It's not some limited function that can only touch configuration files, the system fully supports it.

Good to know that patching allows for entire sections of code to be rewritten. If that's the case, there may potentially be ZERO traces of upcoming DLC in the game, if the files are decrypted/sniffed.

Ah, I understood..
But theres no thing like parts of the code being out of their reach.. They are the developers, so they have the source code, not to mention that its their own console, they know how it encrypt/read/write

Yeah. All I'm saying is that w/ some things you can only patch so much. Some system architectures don't allow full patching of games, or make it REALLY difficult for a developer to do. On Wii/DS, you pretty much had to build DLC capabilities into the game ahead of time or it wasn't possible. I think on early 360 games, patch files could only be so large, so there were limitations there.

There have been very FEW patches for 3DS games, most of which have been first party, so I was a bit worried as to what nintendo actually let people patch, and what the process for creating a patch was and why most people don't take advantage of it.
 
Can't agree at all. Half the appeal for some of those trophies was in how they contrasted the (then) current characters. Also, I am inherently biased towards them because Lakitu was the most hype thing for me to find out about at random.

It's the same reason I hate most fan games - clashing sprites hen they use a character from SMB3 in their SMW style fan game.


Except I'm less harsh on fan game developers because they usually lack the artistic skill or means to make their own.
 
Also am I missing something here? Can you not see posts on smashboards without being a member or something? I thought you could because I swear I remember doing so before I became a member.
 
Also am I missing something here? Can you not see posts on smashboards without being a member or something? I thought you could because I swear I remember doing so before I became a member.

If you leak a thread from smashboards, you can't see it unless you're logged in. People who aren't logged in would have to hunt for the thread itself.

You can see why this would be an issue if a person would only care to see one post for whatever reason.
 
Also am I missing something here? Can you not see posts on smashboards without being a member or something? I thought you could because I swear I remember doing so before I became a member.
I don't think any of the general forums are hidden from guests. There's stuff like the backrooms, and the VIP lounge if all those are still around.

I think the leak stuff is in some kind of user group like this one. I don't know where though. I poked around a bit looking for the one under discussion, and didn't see it.
 
I don't think any of the general forums are hidden from guests. There's stuff like the backrooms, and the VIP lounge if all those are still around.

I think the leak stuff is in some kind of user group like this one. I don't know where though. I poked around a bit looking for the one under discussion, and didn't see it.

"You must be logged-in to do that."
 
Good to know that patching allows for entire sections of code to be rewritten. If that's the case, there may potentially be ZERO traces of upcoming DLC in the game, if the files are decrypted/sniffed.

It's still dirty work to patch/add content to something that wasn't designed for expansion, so if there is DLC there's likely to be the hooks necessary for it to work hiding in the file system. It probably won't reveal anything, of course, but it'd be a hint.
 
Apparently the mods have verified it because of the fact that the guy made brawl textures based on Sm4sh 'from memory', before the E3 demo was released:

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I'll compile the leak and stuff into one post because it looks long.


This is also apparently going to be a Bowser colour:

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Apparently the mods have verified it because of the fact that the guy made brawl textures based on Sm4sh 'from memory', before the E3 demo was released:

vs3UPDc.jpg


2ekzmPt.jpg


I'll compile the leak and stuff into one post because it looks long.


This is also apparently going to be a Bowser colour:

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Yes, green Bowser and blue mario. Such outlandish choices for alternate colors.
 
Duck Hunt Dog isn't exactly an inspired choice...he is basically an easy "wacky" choice to fill the R.O.B and Mr G&W slot.

I like to think Sakurai is more creative than that to just pick the low hanging fruit.
 
Apparently the mods have verified it because of the fact that the guy made brawl textures based on Sm4sh 'from memory', before the E3 demo was released:

http://i.imgur.com/vs3UPDc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2ekzmPt.jpg

I'll compile the leak and stuff into one post because it looks long.


This is also apparently going to be a Bowser colour:

http://i.imgur.com/CYB7pdf.jpg

Even if that's true, all it would prove is that he saw the E3 demo ahead of time, which means he wouldn't know anything that we don't know at this point.
 
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